Kingjames that's not what I said at all my point is that the info we get from lynching annul or palmar will be better than no lynching as we can use that info, even if he flips town, to stand a better chance in the following days, as compared to if there is a no lynch + divided town

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December 09 2011 03:48 GMT

#1933

Because they have made convincing cases about redFF as well, and thus it is way better than a no lunch. Your vote couldn't be any more useless, you're trying to get a nolynch when it's clearly not to the benefit of town. Change your vote, you can try making a case on me tomorrow but your vote on me is not going to amount to anything today.

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December 09 2011 03:52 GMT

#1942

On December 09 2011 12:48 Mattchew wrote:
WE HAVE 10 FUCKING MINUTES PEOPLE

ITS redFF OR NO LYNCH... YOU DECIDE

There's not even 6 people online ATM, seems like its you me kingjames redFF and annul. We need a lynch, and I really hope you and kingjames would switch to annul and then make your case on me tomorrow or we will have a nolynch

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December 09 2011 03:58 GMT

#1949

From the looks of it we're going to have a nolynch today and end up with 13town vs 6 mafia if they kill 2 at night... With a divided town...

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December 09 2011 04:04 GMT

#1961

Holy snap this was stupid.

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December 09 2011 05:04 GMT

#1970

V7 and Annul claimed jack of all trades with a day vig shot.

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December 09 2011 06:48 GMT

#1975

I'm not scum, please highlight the points against me that you feel I have addressed insufficiently and I'll try to do so.

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December 10 2011 05:05 GMT

#2081

On December 10 2011 13:27 Zephirdd wrote:
Well, it seems nobody else is online/caring atm.

So, analyzing it. The post says he was... strangled, poisoned, shot four times, beaten and THEN drowned.
There is no kill like overkill heh

There was only one kill as well in contrast to the two from night 1. Unless someone claims to have been protected, I guess it's safe to assume that Rad was stacked; which means mafia really wanted him dead.

Look for cases he was pushing. If mafia wanted to kill someone with cred, they'd target Toads. If they stacked Radfield, they were scared of him, because he was making sense.

Of course, all of this is true only if Rad was stacked; if a medic tried to protect him, it's a good idea to claim that IMO(unless, ofc, you want to remain anonymous for now).

Bad news(for me) is that all my gut feelings were completely wrong and I can't trust myself anymore.
Good news is that I'll be able to confirm Palmar's alignment. Palmar is town

I'll claim it. I am a Parity Cop, which means I can chose a person per night, and the result of my investigation will be "Same" or "Different", according to the investigation from the last night. Night 1, I get 'No Result'.

Night 1 I chose Palmar to investigate, as he would be my comparative to night 2. He is my strongest town read atm, so I assume it wwas a good idea.
Night 2 I chose Radfield because I thought he was mafia, so a 'Different' would basically tell me he is mafia. Obviously, it is not the case; however, the investigation will provide me "Same" or "Different", which means I'll know the exact alignment of Palmar as we know that Refallen is green.

My investigation provided me "Same", therefore, Palmar is 100% town.
I'd say that should clear any issues of "Palmar is scum" that any player may have yet. Palmar is our ally, and we can at least trust that he is playing for us.

If you have any doubts about this, please check my first post on the game, precisely the last line. I told you I'd find out who is enemy of who - alignments of players in relation of others.

Also, since Palmar is town, is it safe to assume that annul is scum?

Zeph, why should the medic who protected palmar claim?

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December 10 2011 05:15 GMT

#2083

I protected palmar last night and I protected drazerk on day one. I thought I should claim now as several people think I'm scummy.

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December 10 2011 05:24 GMT

#2086

Yes he was attacked, message indicates clearly that I protected him from a hit.

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December 10 2011 05:26 GMT

#2088

I thought that we needed to not waste time on discussing me today to get as much time as possible to lynch a scum and prevent a no-lynch like yesterday which will surely result in scum win. Also because I might not be free for this day round and might not contribute a lot.

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December 10 2011 05:55 GMT

#2092

Sorry, got the feeling that people thought I was scum (kingjames, plus a few others who said they liked his case against me) and I thought it was better to claim early and avoid the shenanigans that happened yesterday.

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December 10 2011 11:04 GMT

#2108

Just got home, truth, why do you still think I'm mafia?

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December 10 2011 13:09 GMT

#2116

Another thing to consider is that considering how hard palmar has been pushing for annul's lynch, palmar being targeted last night makes it more likely that annul is mafia, as if he was town I would think mafia would have left palmar alive for the hope of getting a mis-lynch.

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December 12 2011 01:15 GMT

#2356

I'm willing to lynch redFF too, though I'm sorry I haven't been able to participate much this day cycle, been busy with a competition. Also, kingjames, your scenario of assuming palmar is Mafia is so much more convoluted than the simple assumption that he is town. I think occam's razor applies here.

Refallen

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December 12 2011 01:31 GMT

#2358

Don't think its possible. That means every mafia must also be voting for one of these two, and that seems unrealistic if both are scum.

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December 12 2011 01:47 GMT

#2360

I think it's because of the huge amount of pressure everyone's been putting on the two candidates. Though if it comes down to a double lynch im sure they would switch a vote or two to prevent that.