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Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 07 2011 04:42 GMT
#1207
Right now I guess a reasonable course of action is to look at players that the two who died think is suspicious?

This includes:

kingjames (by both syllo and supersoft)
Lanaia
annul

What are you guy's thoughts on the night's happenings?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 07 2011 04:51 GMT
#1210
You're probably right about that v7, how should we use the new info then?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 07 2011 05:01 GMT
#1212
Red what role are you claiming?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 07 2011 06:10 GMT
#1217
Is it likely that there is more than 1 roleblocker?

Also, if annul got medic'd, and reds have 3kp, that means that mafia didn't target drazerk? Wouldn't he have been a prime target?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 07 2011 08:43 GMT
#1228
Hi Drazerk, sorry, I don't quite understand. Are you saying that Mafia didn't target you because they didn't think your role claim was real?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 07 2011 09:16 GMT
#1235
For what it's worth, I'm leaning to Palmar being townie atm. I agree with him that annul's claim of being saved by a medic is suspicious, though I'm not sure if syllo shot him or not. As he says, there are better targets for a medic to be chosen.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 07 2011 09:33 GMT
#1238
If that's the case, and annul is scum, what do you make of his saying mafia has 3kp? Where did the last kp go? Did someone get saved or did Mafia doublestack? I'm assuming that if you got saved as town you should declare it as I feel like that would be helpful for town.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 07 2011 09:46 GMT
#1241
One more question Palmar, what do you think of Drazerk at the moment? I know you thought he was scum earlier in the middle of day 1 (which you never really elaborated on). With his role claim at night and now that Day 2 has arrived, what do you think about him now?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 07 2011 10:25 GMT
#1245
On December 07 2011 19:15 TruthBringer wrote:
I made a decision at the start of this new day that I would give Palmar a second chance to prove his townliness, but as I suspected he would, he started day 2 off being just as worthless as he was on day 1.

Some guardian angels saved him yesterday when he was receiving lots of votes ("let's switch to zero suspicion hier!")

Bring it on, try and save him again without giving yourselves away.

##vote Palmar


I completely disagree actually, I've had my misgivings about Palmar but I believe he's been showing himself to be quite pro-town the more he posts. Why do you say that he started day 2 off being worthless Truth? What are your thoughts on his posts on day 2 so far? Also, I've noticed you've been bandwagoning quite a lot. For example, you bandwagoned with kingjames to vote me on day 1 and now you're doing the same on day 2. You look more the scum than Palmar atm

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On December 07 2011 18:46 Refallen wrote:
One more question Palmar, what do you think of Drazerk at the moment? I know you thought he was scum earlier in the middle of day 1 (which you never really elaborated on). With his role claim at night and now that Day 2 has arrived, what do you think about him now?



I think he's useless, and given that I think annul should be the guy we're talking about today I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I cannot be certain of his alignment either way at this moment.


Yes, right now I believe annul, maybe kingjames should be the guys we're talking about today too. They need to defend themselves in the thread.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 07 2011 16:05 GMT
#1325
Toad I gave some reasons earlier at the start of day 2, and so did Palmar
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 07 2011 16:13 GMT
#1334
...Qatol next guy who uses blue text gets modkilled...I hope you're scum...

And yeah Toad, obviously the votes are not set in stone yet. Have to wait till annul comes on and defends himself. At this point in time I feel he's definitely the best lynch now though. Still, we still have a good 36 hours in the day, so that's plenty of time for counter-arguments and more discussion.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 07 2011 16:14 GMT
#1336
EBWOP: Oh actually nevermind I thought incog was giving a warning on blue text, apaprently it was pictures. My bad, I feel dumb. (Late at night over here haha)
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 09 2011 00:45 GMT
#1716
On December 09 2011 09:18 annul wrote:
ok well in 45 minutes i will make a nice announcement depending on the answers i get to my last few questions

IF YOU ARE HERE AND ACTIVE IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU ANSWER MY LAST FEW QUESTIONS PLEASE

namely, 1. who do you think is MOST town; 2. do you think toad is town/mafia?


1. I think it's v7 and Palmar.

2. No, I think he's town.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 09 2011 01:13 GMT
#1751
Hi kingjames, I read XLVII and have been reading other mafia games in the downtime to get myself more familiarized with the game. That's how I know what doublestack is.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 09 2011 01:25 GMT
#1777

To be honest, this doesn't convince me at all. It still appears that you were doing EXACTLY what I said you were, namely, looking for reasons to vote and when bandwagons didn't coalesce, looking for reasons to retract your vote.


I have been looking for reasons to vote, if you put it that way. Obviously, I haven't been really confident enough to attempt my own analyses yet and so I've been just looking at other people's opinions, checking with my own ideas about what I think about a particular person, and if I find the reasons to be strong enough I'll vote for him. I don't really think that's scummy, though you would be justified in calling me a sheep right now, and I will try to change that. And I don't think I've been 'coalescing on bandwagons and then finding a reason to retract my vote'. It was the Soap incident, and as I pointed out, the meta thing about Soap was entirely new information that was valuable.

This doesn't even make sense. You can't blindly look at a dead Townie's suspect list and then say, "AHA! Mafia!" This post is very typical of an inexperienced mafia. Are you hoping that the Town will eliminate players that are suspicious of you?


I thought this would have been a good way to make use of the information we got from the killings. Obviously, there's levelling in play here but at that moment, with that new information, I thought that was the best way to make use of it. I don't think this was very mafia-ish at all, and at worst it is the mark of an inexperienced player.

I already addressed the doublestack point; come on, that argument is so weak it's not even funny.

Why? Cause dead Townies who CANNOT possibly know our alignments were suspicious? Are you perhaps mafia and you wanted them dead BECAUSE they were suspicious of us? You weren't successful hitting annul due to him being saved and you couldn't kill me directly because I had only denounced you and that would have put a lot of heat on you? Mafia trickery.


I don't get this point, can you rephrase it?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 09 2011 01:35 GMT
#1801
Toad, who do you want to vote on tonight then? Erandorr?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 09 2011 03:21 GMT
#1904
We NEED to lynch someone today, otherwise it'll be lylo really soon. Put your votes on annul and if he flips blue then go ahead and lynch palmar and those with him but we have to lynch someone today.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 09 2011 03:27 GMT
#1908
The point is that town is in a very confused and disorganised spot now. We desperately need the lynch to be able to clarify town situation. Right now you, annul, and Palmar are the two main polarising targets; more likely than not, if one of you flips town the other will be scum, and in so doing it will help to clarify the town situation so much if one of you is lynched. If we hold a no lynch today what exactly is our plan for future days? Continue on being in two desperate disorganised camps, while losing 2 townies at the night too? We need to lynch tonight. I'll go so far as to say that even if we lynch you and you flip town annul the info gotten will be so good as to justify it. Plus, there's a very decent chance you'll flip scum.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 09 2011 03:30 GMT
#1910
And Matt we have half an hour to get 6 more votes on red or 3 more votes on annul. Yes, red looks scummy. Is it realistic to lynch him tonight? Doubt it. God why did you guys choose to unload this drama so close to day end?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 09 2011 03:32 GMT
#1914
So please those on redFFs wagon switch; I don't think there's 6 people online that isn't on redFFs wagon willing to switch, though I'll vote for him if we can get 5 more... Or we can push for. 3 more votes on annul
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