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ElectricBlack
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom38 Posts
December 05 2011 01:16 GMT
#301
Lurking is not the same thing as simply being unavailable, which is what has been stopping me from posting today.

I'm catching up with the thread at the moment. I'm going to read extensively up on the current lynch targets and see if I agree with any of them.
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BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
December 05 2011 01:21 GMT
#302
Hassy if you need evidence read this:
On December 05 2011 01:38 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 21:39 Tunkeg wrote:

So are you trying to establish yourself as a boring townie by not posting anything or what?

Adam, a couple of questions for you:

What is your thoughts on Blazinghand's aggressiveness? How do you perceive him thus far? Is his play pro-town or anti-town?

Any thoughts on xsksc's play? Is he a key player in this game? If he is scum, what effect will that have on the game?


If my lack of posting thus far has crowned me as a boring townie, I guess it’s a mantle I’ll wear; I had a Sunday off and decided to go out drinking.

My thoughts on Blazinghands aggression so far is that I feel he is trying to generate discussion. However, I question whether he is trying too hard to establish himself as a townie by his badgering. This, coupled with his apparent buddy-buddy relationship with Velinath has me keeping a close eye on both of them as I find it strange that they are apparently “BFF’s” after only 12 hours of play. So to directly answer your question, Tunkeg, I find his behaviour suspicious and erring on the side of Anti-town.This is the main reason I want to vote for adam, when I first read this I realized that BH had only made four votes. The evidence he includes to back his statement is wrong, so that means that the statement although long as hastily thought out, not paying attention to what is going on, and therefore contributing as a towns member 5 separate votes in 12 hours is akin to spam and is just leading the town around in circles, rather than focusing on any one target.

Xsksc is someone I’m more familiar with after close examination of the Newbie Mini Mafia thread. So far he has begun discussion, scolded Blazinghands reckless aggression and defended himself well when called out. Is he a key player in the game? Not yet, but neither is anyone else. This is also a bogus statement. He says that there are no major players in the game when he points out above that BH voted for half the players. To me that is a major move in itself. If he had read the forum at all he would have seen that BH has gotten the majority of players, including myself, to speak Is he pro-town? All signs are pointing towards yes. If he turns out to be mafia, id hope to think we can still catch him out and hang him even with his greater mafia experience over us.

Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 16:03 Blazinghand wrote:
Adam has correctly noted that there are no no-lynches in his sole post. Helpful, but not enormously so. Also, he's certainly awake since he's Australian. I'm gonna slap my vote on him and wait for him to contribute some more. Maybe he's eating or out or something, but hopefully this will get more than 1 post

Adam, I'd like to see you contributing to the discussion more. I'm heading to bed relatively soon, but when I wake up I hope to see a new post from you.

##Vote Adam4167

I don't necessarily think you're scum or that other people should vote for you, but you've only made one post, and that's simply not good enough.

Hurry up.


As previously stated, I went out drinking. And after I finish this post, I'm going to need at least 6 hours to sleep it off.

I feel that by flinging your vote in every direction, you have cheapened the weight of your vote when you eventually do decide to settle on a target. I also feel the need to point out again that you have had 5 separate votes in 12 hours, which is almost half of the players participating.

You’ve caught my attention Blazinghand, don’t slip =).

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Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 05 2011 01:28 GMT
#303
On December 05 2011 10:21 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Hassy if you need evidence read this:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 01:38 Adam4167 wrote:
On December 04 2011 21:39 Tunkeg wrote:

So are you trying to establish yourself as a boring townie by not posting anything or what?

Adam, a couple of questions for you:

What is your thoughts on Blazinghand's aggressiveness? How do you perceive him thus far? Is his play pro-town or anti-town?

Any thoughts on xsksc's play? Is he a key player in this game? If he is scum, what effect will that have on the game?


If my lack of posting thus far has crowned me as a boring townie, I guess it’s a mantle I’ll wear; I had a Sunday off and decided to go out drinking.

My thoughts on Blazinghands aggression so far is that I feel he is trying to generate discussion. However, I question whether he is trying too hard to establish himself as a townie by his badgering. This, coupled with his apparent buddy-buddy relationship with Velinath has me keeping a close eye on both of them as I find it strange that they are apparently “BFF’s” after only 12 hours of play. So to directly answer your question, Tunkeg, I find his behaviour suspicious and erring on the side of Anti-town.This is the main reason I want to vote for adam, when I first read this I realized that BH had only made four votes. The evidence he includes to back his statement is wrong, so that means that the statement although long as hastily thought out, not paying attention to what is going on, and therefore contributing as a towns member 5 separate votes in 12 hours is akin to spam and is just leading the town around in circles, rather than focusing on any one target.

Xsksc is someone I’m more familiar with after close examination of the Newbie Mini Mafia thread. So far he has begun discussion, scolded Blazinghands reckless aggression and defended himself well when called out. Is he a key player in the game? Not yet, but neither is anyone else. This is also a bogus statement. He says that there are no major players in the game when he points out above that BH voted for half the players. To me that is a major move in itself. If he had read the forum at all he would have seen that BH has gotten the majority of players, including myself, to speak Is he pro-town? All signs are pointing towards yes. If he turns out to be mafia, id hope to think we can still catch him out and hang him even with his greater mafia experience over us.

On December 04 2011 16:03 Blazinghand wrote:
Adam has correctly noted that there are no no-lynches in his sole post. Helpful, but not enormously so. Also, he's certainly awake since he's Australian. I'm gonna slap my vote on him and wait for him to contribute some more. Maybe he's eating or out or something, but hopefully this will get more than 1 post

Adam, I'd like to see you contributing to the discussion more. I'm heading to bed relatively soon, but when I wake up I hope to see a new post from you.

##Vote Adam4167

I don't necessarily think you're scum or that other people should vote for you, but you've only made one post, and that's simply not good enough.

Hurry up.


As previously stated, I went out drinking. And after I finish this post, I'm going to need at least 6 hours to sleep it off.

I feel that by flinging your vote in every direction, you have cheapened the weight of your vote when you eventually do decide to settle on a target. I also feel the need to point out again that you have had 5 separate votes in 12 hours, which is almost half of the players participating.

You’ve caught my attention Blazinghand, don’t slip =).


Thanks, that's enough justification for me. I appreciate the explanation, and what jaybrundage said goes right along with that.
##Unvote: BroodKingEXE
ElectricBlack
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom38 Posts
December 05 2011 01:33 GMT
#304
On December 05 2011 09:41 BByte wrote:
Argh...

##Vote Velinath


I want to say that after reading through Velinath's posts I do not agree with this vote. He has been very transparent with everything he's done, he's pushing the right ideas.

If he is scum, he's the first scum I've ever seen actually trying to push the town away from lynching lurkers on day 1. I'd say I have a pretty strong town read on Velinath at this point. The only thing that worries me in his play is the lack of people under serious pressure, but I can sort-of relate to that, as it's already evident this town is going to be both active and hold a fairly high quality of posting.

This means that any case is going to take more time to get going, and there's simply more to read.

I like it.
Don't you wonder somtimes - About sound and vision?
ElectricBlack
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom38 Posts
December 05 2011 01:40 GMT
#305
I'd be much more comfortable lynching Hassybaby than any of the current candidates. I need to go to sleep now (it's well past midnight over here), I'll give details as for why this is in the morning.
Don't you wonder somtimes - About sound and vision?
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
December 05 2011 01:41 GMT
#306
On December 05 2011 10:28 Velinath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 10:21 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Hassy if you need evidence read this:
On December 05 2011 01:38 Adam4167 wrote:
On December 04 2011 21:39 Tunkeg wrote:

So are you trying to establish yourself as a boring townie by not posting anything or what?

Adam, a couple of questions for you:

What is your thoughts on Blazinghand's aggressiveness? How do you perceive him thus far? Is his play pro-town or anti-town?

Any thoughts on xsksc's play? Is he a key player in this game? If he is scum, what effect will that have on the game?


If my lack of posting thus far has crowned me as a boring townie, I guess it’s a mantle I’ll wear; I had a Sunday off and decided to go out drinking.

My thoughts on Blazinghands aggression so far is that I feel he is trying to generate discussion. However, I question whether he is trying too hard to establish himself as a townie by his badgering. This, coupled with his apparent buddy-buddy relationship with Velinath has me keeping a close eye on both of them as I find it strange that they are apparently “BFF’s” after only 12 hours of play. So to directly answer your question, Tunkeg, I find his behaviour suspicious and erring on the side of Anti-town.This is the main reason I want to vote for adam, when I first read this I realized that BH had only made four votes. The evidence he includes to back his statement is wrong, so that means that the statement although long as hastily thought out, not paying attention to what is going on, and therefore contributing as a towns member 5 separate votes in 12 hours is akin to spam and is just leading the town around in circles, rather than focusing on any one target.

Xsksc is someone I’m more familiar with after close examination of the Newbie Mini Mafia thread. So far he has begun discussion, scolded Blazinghands reckless aggression and defended himself well when called out. Is he a key player in the game? Not yet, but neither is anyone else. This is also a bogus statement. He says that there are no major players in the game when he points out above that BH voted for half the players. To me that is a major move in itself. If he had read the forum at all he would have seen that BH has gotten the majority of players, including myself, to speak Is he pro-town? All signs are pointing towards yes. If he turns out to be mafia, id hope to think we can still catch him out and hang him even with his greater mafia experience over us.

On December 04 2011 16:03 Blazinghand wrote:
Adam has correctly noted that there are no no-lynches in his sole post. Helpful, but not enormously so. Also, he's certainly awake since he's Australian. I'm gonna slap my vote on him and wait for him to contribute some more. Maybe he's eating or out or something, but hopefully this will get more than 1 post

Adam, I'd like to see you contributing to the discussion more. I'm heading to bed relatively soon, but when I wake up I hope to see a new post from you.

##Vote Adam4167

I don't necessarily think you're scum or that other people should vote for you, but you've only made one post, and that's simply not good enough.

Hurry up.


As previously stated, I went out drinking. And after I finish this post, I'm going to need at least 6 hours to sleep it off.

I feel that by flinging your vote in every direction, you have cheapened the weight of your vote when you eventually do decide to settle on a target. I also feel the need to point out again that you have had 5 separate votes in 12 hours, which is almost half of the players participating.

You’ve caught my attention Blazinghand, don’t slip =).


Thanks, that's enough justification for me. I appreciate the explanation, and what jaybrundage said goes right along with that.
##Unvote: BroodKingEXE


If your'e unvoting BKEXE, who are you voting for?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
December 05 2011 01:42 GMT
#307
Just woke up, going to make my write-up in a sec.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
December 05 2011 01:42 GMT
#308
On December 05 2011 10:40 ElectricBlack wrote:
I'd be much more comfortable lynching Hassybaby than any of the current candidates. I need to go to sleep now (it's well past midnight over here), I'll give details as for why this is in the morning.

No. Vote. Don't wait, don't delay-- it's anti-town to do so. Cast your vote, even if you don't have time to explain.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
December 05 2011 01:43 GMT
#309
On December 05 2011 10:42 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 10:40 ElectricBlack wrote:
I'd be much more comfortable lynching Hassybaby than any of the current candidates. I need to go to sleep now (it's well past midnight over here), I'll give details as for why this is in the morning.

No. Vote. Don't wait, don't delay-- it's anti-town to do so. Cast your vote, even if you don't have time to explain.


Actually, this delay is more anti-town than Adam's amazing inactivity. It's anti-worthful, rather than just worthless.

##Vote ElectricBlack

Vote or die.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
December 05 2011 01:46 GMT
#310
To clarify, ElectricBlack CLAIMS to have good evidence/details to lynching HassyBaby, and not only does he refuse to give this information in a timely fashion for those of us in different time zones, he won't even vote. He has well earned my vote, and deserves yours as well.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
December 05 2011 01:46 GMT
#311
Why is not voting anti-town?
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 05 2011 01:47 GMT
#312
On December 05 2011 10:43 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 10:42 Blazinghand wrote:
On December 05 2011 10:40 ElectricBlack wrote:
I'd be much more comfortable lynching Hassybaby than any of the current candidates. I need to go to sleep now (it's well past midnight over here), I'll give details as for why this is in the morning.

No. Vote. Don't wait, don't delay-- it's anti-town to do so. Cast your vote, even if you don't have time to explain.


Actually, this delay is more anti-town than Adam's amazing inactivity. It's anti-worthful, rather than just worthless.

##Vote ElectricBlack

Vote or die.

I disagree with this. He's made a stance, and he'll post information when he has time. I'm okay with that. If he doesn't post his reasoning, then I'll be concerned, but for now I'm willing to wait for that.

My point is that he has said who he'd be comfortable voting for.

As to who I'm voting for, I'm going to be tossing a

##Vote: Adam4167

because he's the best available candidate of our current suspects. While I'm still not entirely sold on BKEXE and am certainly not sold on Hassybaby, both have contributed more than Adam to the thread, especially now that BKEXE has explained why he voted.

I may change this later because I haven't had time to re-filter everyone, but for now I'll put my vote here.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
December 05 2011 01:48 GMT
#313
On December 05 2011 10:46 Grackaroni wrote:
Why is not voting anti-town?


Because we need to discuss thigns and we have less than a day left. AND , from his point of view, he thinks Hassybaby is mafia, and wants to vote for him... but won't. IF he has good evidence, I want it now. Otherwise, this sounds exactly like scum trying to throw away a vote. He's actively subverting us getting people's votes out in the open. He is anti-town.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
December 05 2011 01:49 GMT
#314
It does seem kind of funny though that he came on for like 15 minutes and said he wasn't lurking made 2 short posts and logged off lol
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
December 05 2011 01:50 GMT
#315
On December 05 2011 10:47 Velinath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 10:43 Blazinghand wrote:
On December 05 2011 10:42 Blazinghand wrote:
On December 05 2011 10:40 ElectricBlack wrote:
I'd be much more comfortable lynching Hassybaby than any of the current candidates. I need to go to sleep now (it's well past midnight over here), I'll give details as for why this is in the morning.

No. Vote. Don't wait, don't delay-- it's anti-town to do so. Cast your vote, even if you don't have time to explain.


Actually, this delay is more anti-town than Adam's amazing inactivity. It's anti-worthful, rather than just worthless.

##Vote ElectricBlack

Vote or die.

I disagree with this. He's made a stance, and he'll post information when he has time. I'm okay with that. If he doesn't post his reasoning, then I'll be concerned, but for now I'm willing to wait for that.

My point is that he has said who he'd be comfortable voting for.



He said he's comfortable voting for Hassybaby, but he's obviously not-- he didn't take the 2-3 seconds to type in his vote. He's leading us by the nose. He's hiding behind the excuse of sleep to avoid an explanation, which I might buy. But to avoid slapping down a simple vote? No, this isn't normal. this is anti-town and I will not stand for it.

Think about it-- if he's town, his actions don't make sense at all. Why not slap down the vote? If he's mafia his actions make perfect sense.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 05 2011 01:52 GMT
#316
Let's discuss as if he had voted, then - that's the best solution I can think of.

Hassybaby:

The main issue I think people has is that he hasn't really posted any serious reads. His vote (currently on BKEXE) is there solely because of my reasoning, because "there just isn't a strong enough case on anyone else". While he says he'll change the vote tomorrow, and that's all well and good, I wish there were more reasoning than just "someone else said so".

On top of that, I think we're all waiting for some constructive commenting from him. The defensiveness on Tunkeg early is at least something to consider, but I'd like to see what he thinks about some of the active posters in the thread. He asks for analysis from some posters (Adam, for one), but doesn't give any himself.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
December 05 2011 01:55 GMT
#317
On December 05 2011 10:50 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 10:47 Velinath wrote:
On December 05 2011 10:43 Blazinghand wrote:
On December 05 2011 10:42 Blazinghand wrote:
On December 05 2011 10:40 ElectricBlack wrote:
I'd be much more comfortable lynching Hassybaby than any of the current candidates. I need to go to sleep now (it's well past midnight over here), I'll give details as for why this is in the morning.

No. Vote. Don't wait, don't delay-- it's anti-town to do so. Cast your vote, even if you don't have time to explain.


Actually, this delay is more anti-town than Adam's amazing inactivity. It's anti-worthful, rather than just worthless.

##Vote ElectricBlack

Vote or die.

I disagree with this. He's made a stance, and he'll post information when he has time. I'm okay with that. If he doesn't post his reasoning, then I'll be concerned, but for now I'm willing to wait for that.

My point is that he has said who he'd be comfortable voting for.



He said he's comfortable voting for Hassybaby, but he's obviously not-- he didn't take the 2-3 seconds to type in his vote. He's leading us by the nose. He's hiding behind the excuse of sleep to avoid an explanation, which I might buy. But to avoid slapping down a simple vote? No, this isn't normal. this is anti-town and I will not stand for it.

Think about it-- if he's town, his actions don't make sense at all. Why not slap down the vote? If he's mafia his actions make perfect sense.

I don't understand though from a scum perspective why he would say that Hassy is scum instead of jumping on the Adam bandwagon.
Unless maybe they're both scum; it just seems like him not voting isn't enough to make me switch my vote.
ElectricBlack
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom38 Posts
December 05 2011 01:58 GMT
#318
On December 05 2011 10:50 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 10:47 Velinath wrote:
On December 05 2011 10:43 Blazinghand wrote:
On December 05 2011 10:42 Blazinghand wrote:
On December 05 2011 10:40 ElectricBlack wrote:
I'd be much more comfortable lynching Hassybaby than any of the current candidates. I need to go to sleep now (it's well past midnight over here), I'll give details as for why this is in the morning.

No. Vote. Don't wait, don't delay-- it's anti-town to do so. Cast your vote, even if you don't have time to explain.


Actually, this delay is more anti-town than Adam's amazing inactivity. It's anti-worthful, rather than just worthless.

##Vote ElectricBlack

Vote or die.

I disagree with this. He's made a stance, and he'll post information when he has time. I'm okay with that. If he doesn't post his reasoning, then I'll be concerned, but for now I'm willing to wait for that.

My point is that he has said who he'd be comfortable voting for.



He said he's comfortable voting for Hassybaby, but he's obviously not-- he didn't take the 2-3 seconds to type in his vote. He's leading us by the nose. He's hiding behind the excuse of sleep to avoid an explanation, which I might buy. But to avoid slapping down a simple vote? No, this isn't normal. this is anti-town and I will not stand for it.

Think about it-- if he's town, his actions don't make sense at all. Why not slap down the vote? If he's mafia his actions make perfect sense.


Now I'm not gonna vote him until the morning just to spite you.

I will vote in my own time when I can explain in detail why and how I came to the conclusion. In addition I still have a few people to read up on and form an opinion on, so I might not even end up voting Hassybaby when it comes to it.
Don't you wonder somtimes - About sound and vision?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
December 05 2011 01:59 GMT
#319
You're here now... explain your case.
ElectricBlack
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom38 Posts
December 05 2011 01:59 GMT
#320
No.

Good night.
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