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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 29 2011 20:23 GMT
#490
But seriously this is the ultimate setup for Palmar as a dt. If he gets a green check he has a confirmed townie he can pm with and he is confident I am town. I can't see palmar putting in such a piss poor effort as a townie when this is the perfect scenario for him to be active and excel in. He is much much better than this.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 29 2011 21:57 GMT
#518
BEST EVER
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 29 2011 22:03 GMT
#525
Nice of you to show up sinani and kenpachi. Thanks for contributing
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 29 2011 22:06 GMT
#528
Curu is not scum don't be retarded.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 29 2011 22:18 GMT
#537
sinani did incog pm you asking if you were a sniper?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 29 2011 22:19 GMT
#538
I am not 100% sold on WBG being scum just yet honestly. Would he and palmar be bad enough to really tie themselves so strongly together?

I am very very suspicious of Incog right now.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 29 2011 23:17 GMT
#559
NC is obviously not going to be lynched tomorrow. We just lynched a scum we should look at connections and see what it tells us to possibly find another. Randomly voting trolling NC does not help us.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 30 2011 00:08 GMT
#578
Jackal is that serious? If so why would you shoot now and not later in the day when we have more information.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 30 2011 00:18 GMT
#585
...............

Someone explain to me why everyone is a retard.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 30 2011 00:20 GMT
#586
Forumite if you are actually a sniper you should forever quit mafia.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 30 2011 09:59 GMT
#620
Forumite why did you post saying vigs should hold their shots then shoot/fakeshoot WBG? What was the point of that?


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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 30 2011 10:11 GMT
#622
For the love of god any medics out there do not protect forumite.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 30 2011 10:20 GMT
#624
Why in the world should medics protect you exactly? Have you done anything at all to show people that you are town?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 30 2011 10:22 GMT
#626
Forumite is claiming he faked the shot because he thought jackal was the real sniper and he wanted to confuse the mafia, so they wouldn't know which of them to shoot. I can at least understand that but clearly no medics should protect Forumite.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 30 2011 13:31 GMT
#636
Forumite.... If you are really blue why put yourself in the line of fire attempting to save the sniper? Doesn't that seem like an incredibly dumb thing to do?

I like all of prpl's posts against Incog. Incog is obviously by far the most likely to be the GF. GF is generally given to the most experienced player scum player. Since Palmar flipped pyro that only leaves like 2 people in the game who are more experienced so most likely Incog. There is some chance that GF was randomed tho so that certainly isn't enough to lynch Incog alone. But all of prpl's points against Incog are good and I will add another.

If anyone remembers Pick Your Power Insane Incognito made an amazing case against Ace when he figured out that Ace was practically guaranteed scum. Unfortunately because everyone suspected him of being mafia no one listened to him. So a very important lesson was drilled into him, as a townie always always establish your innocence or your arguments will never be heard. In fact look at these quotes of his from PYPI postgame


As a townie, you know your goal is to lynch all the mafia. But its easy to try to jump into the fray without knowing having a clear plan of action of how you are going to get to your goal. As has been stated before, the key is maintaining a positive town atmosphere. So how is this done? In order of descending importance:

1. Establish your innocence
2. Support the right townies
3. Vote properly
4. Shut down any attempts to lynch other obvious townies
5. Shut down attempts to spread doubt or chaos in the thread



The number 1 priority of any townie should be to establish your innocence. This priority is often overlooked by townies who feel the need to be useful in an active and eyepopping way. The truth is that simply being an obvious innocent can be worth a lot more than being an active but confused poster. Too much information and a lack of focus will derail the town and allow mafia to take advantage of the chaotic situation. On the other hand, even if you aren't an active poster, simply establishing your innocence goes a long way toward strangling the mafia. As Foolishness said in the XXX thread, sometimes the best way to find the mafia is by finding out who isn't mafia. Every player who establishes their innocence gives the mafia less room to hide. The more people acting in obviously innocent ways, the less room mafia has to push its own agenda, and the more exposed they become. Furthermore, being obviously innocent means you won't be lynched, which increases the chances of town lynching correctly and makes sure town doesn't lose time and focus running around in circles on witch hunts and.


This is amazing advice that all mafia players new and old should read and take to heart. So then why is Incognito playing exactly opposite of this? He hasn't done a single thing to prove his innocence and in fact practically everything he has done has just drawn even more suspicion onto himself.

Incognito has provided absolutely no solid opinions, given the town absolutely no reads on any players, done virtually no scum hunting and has been in general completely useless. And make no mistake Incognito is a very very good player. He should have seen what I saw about Palmar and have been able to pin him as scum instead of being so wishy washy about him. Randomly coming in and attacking Erandorr with a retarded reason was horrible, he is better than this. When you see a good player playing much much worse than they normally do it is usually a good sign that they are mafia.

Out of everyone left I am by far the most confident that Incognito is scum. If I die tonight Incognito needs to be killed before anyone else.

Death to Incognito!
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 30 2011 13:36 GMT
#637
Concerning WBG : He played absolutely horrific yesterday, his blind multiple defenses are just awful. But he has 2 things going in his favor.

1) Would he and Palmar really tie themselves so tightly together on day 1? As scum I don't see Palmar defend his scum mates early on that often. It would be unbelievably reckless and bad play for them to so blatantly defend each other if they were both scum.

2) After Jackal/Forumite aimed at WBG he added me on skype and gave me like 5000 ideas for who he thought was scum etc. If he was scum I think it is a lot more likely he would have just gone silent and waited to die, but he rushed to tell me things because he thought he would die within the hour. A very very townie thing to do.

These things don't guarantee that WBG is town but he is definitely not the best target at all for tomorrow. Incognito is 100x scummier.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 30 2011 13:42 GMT
#638
And just to add another thing against Incognito. Look at that list of 5 things townies should do that he created after PYPI. Now ask yourself has he done a single one of them? No.

He comes in criticizes the thread and says it is in terrible shape yet disappears and does nothing to improve it.

Does he use his vote to try and lead the lynch against the person he thinks is scummiest? No he contributes nothing then appears 30 minutes before the day is over to throw a horrible vote on Erandorr.

Death to Incognito
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 30 2011 18:18 GMT
#663
Either way it doesn't matter who the smurf is.

Also Jackal if you don't think me/curu are town at this point you never will.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 30 2011 19:36 GMT
#676
I would expect there to almost certainly be a GF in this game. Last time Kurumi hosted the town had no dts and mafia still had a GF. So regardless of what roles we have a GF is very likely to exist.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 30 2011 20:36 GMT
#688
I am very very uncertain about jackal or forumite being scum. There are many things about forumite's play that fall directly in line with bad town and not scum.
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