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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 27 2011 17:38 GMT
#2169
On September 28 2011 02:35 Drazerk wrote:
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On September 28 2011 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:30 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP.


To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?

Could you answer to the actual question please?


They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol


Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills.


this may be a new concept to you.

Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things.

For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else.


wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all?


Also i'd like to add mafia still hit prp. Isn't it weird?


I guess you could factor in the lie I made about having my role changed and them not being certain considering the previous times my roles have been changed was game braking ( Then again they were a caller game / PTP2 ( I'm not counting minor changes that happen in other games ) )


What do you mean by "your role changing"?


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On September 25 2011 09:43 Drazerk wrote:
Oh and I guess I can reveal the fact that my role just got a upgrade ( One day Ill go through a game with the same role that I started with )


I didn't mention medic related stuff for the rest of the night after this post.


So are you saying you're not a medic anymore? How convenient...
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 27 2011 17:41 GMT
#2175
On September 28 2011 02:39 Palmar wrote:
yo dudes, I'm claiming the Joker.

I can do all of the following every night:

Role check
Murder someone
Alignment check
Medic protection
Force a modkill
Murder someone

I'm masoned with myself, meaning I can PM myself.

I role checked chaoser, he's an SK, his true identity is Lord Vader.
I murdered purplehaze
I alignment checked kita, he's scum
I didn't medic protect anyone because I'm an asshole
I couldn't force more modkills, Curu said enough already.
I murdered purplehaze again for good measure.

I told myself how awesome I am.

So kita is scum!


Feel free to use that on yourself.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 27 2011 17:43 GMT
#2179
On September 25 2011 03:06 Palmar wrote:
This game is so much fun. I love it when mafia is open about their trolling lol.

Also, what a baller claim iGrok, you're a hero.


If you read Palmar's filter, the vast majority of his posts have been trolling. We've all been ignoring a lot of what he's saying just because he's been super annoying the whole game. He's been openly trolling the whole time.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 27 2011 17:47 GMT
#2188
On September 28 2011 02:45 Palmar wrote:
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On September 28 2011 02:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 25 2011 03:06 Palmar wrote:
This game is so much fun. I love it when mafia is open about their trolling lol.

Also, what a baller claim iGrok, you're a hero.


If you read Palmar's filter, the vast majority of his posts have been trolling. We've all been ignoring a lot of what he's saying just because he's been super annoying the whole game. He's been openly trolling the whole time.


WHAT ABOUT IT BITCH?


What about it? You're the only one who's been openly trolling the whole game. And you find it entertaining that mafia is open about trolling.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 27 2011 17:54 GMT
#2201
On September 28 2011 02:48 Palmar wrote:
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On September 28 2011 02:47 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:45 Palmar wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 25 2011 03:06 Palmar wrote:
This game is so much fun. I love it when mafia is open about their trolling lol.

Also, what a baller claim iGrok, you're a hero.


If you read Palmar's filter, the vast majority of his posts have been trolling. We've all been ignoring a lot of what he's saying just because he's been super annoying the whole game. He's been openly trolling the whole time.


WHAT ABOUT IT BITCH?


What about it? You're the only one who's been openly trolling the whole game. And you find it entertaining that mafia is open about trolling.


yeah, problem?


sigh...you're impossible to deal with.

Can't take you on by myself.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 27 2011 18:05 GMT
#2207
On September 28 2011 02:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
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On September 25 2011 03:06 Palmar wrote:
This game is so much fun. I love it when mafia is open about their trolling lol.

Also, what a baller claim iGrok, you're a hero.


If you read Palmar's filter, the vast majority of his posts have been trolling. We've all been ignoring a lot of what he's saying just because he's been super annoying the whole game. He's been openly trolling the whole time.


Quoting myself. Really would like to know someone else's thoughts on this.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 27 2011 18:13 GMT
#2209
On September 28 2011 03:08 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
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On September 28 2011 03:05 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 28 2011 02:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 25 2011 03:06 Palmar wrote:
This game is so much fun. I love it when mafia is open about their trolling lol.

Also, what a baller claim iGrok, you're a hero.


If you read Palmar's filter, the vast majority of his posts have been trolling. We've all been ignoring a lot of what he's saying just because he's been super annoying the whole game. He's been openly trolling the whole time.


Quoting myself. Really would like to know someone else's thoughts on this.


I've made several cases against Palmar, none of them took off, but he hasn't done much to prove his innocence.

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On September 28 2011 03:04 kitaman27 wrote:
That's nice. What happens when I get lynched instead of Palmar? Are you going to continue to vote for him for the rest of the game since mafia is never going to kill him?


Both of you would probably be interested in this post of mine
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 27 2011 11:30 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
To quote myself from a while back
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On September 22 2011 19:39 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
These people were on both Errandor and Jackal's wagons at days end, and in my opinion are therefore people we should be wary of:
-Radfield
-kitaman27
-OriginalName
-TranceStorm
-Drazerk

Of which, Radfield is dead and Drazerk is very likely a medic, so I'm comfortable with a lynch on the middle three if it's not Palmar today

Im going to list my reasons to vote Palmar once more, because I believe he was one of the scum behind the bus
Let's start with Palmar confirming himself:
Pre DocH being modkilled-
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On September 20 2011 19:05 Palmar wrote:
On September 20 2011 19:02 Palmar wrote:
On September 20 2011 19:02 Palmar wrote:
prplhz should probably give the ring away to his strongest townread. I'd go with one of Radfield, Sandroba, myself and pyo.


Derp... prplhz said he doesn't actually have the ring.


In any case, if you're lying, you should consider giving it away.

btw, Sandroba is almost definitely town, but only if he takes his vote off me. I'm basically confirmed town from my exchanges with DrH, but only people like sandroba/syllo etc will see it.

We need to keep an eye on syllo... yarly.

chaoser is also very likely town. I don't like the smell of iGrok and Kita...

Post iGroks death-
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On September 25 2011 22:24 Palmar wrote:
seriously wtf rayn, I'm confirmed town now.

I'm not scummy

Now keep in mind that iGrok was more than likely bussed

At this point, go through Palmar's filter and look at just how sure he was that iGrok was mafia, correct or otherwise. It's amazing how he's working only on meta that he refuses to contrast to iGroks current play.

On iGrok's meta however-
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On September 22 2011 02:49 Palmar wrote:
On September 22 2011 02:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On September 22 2011 02:25 Palmar wrote:
no you're not prplhz, and I agree with you.

I'm not going to respond to a case made by scum Cyber, sorry.

I can answer some of your questions though, because given the last game I played with you, you were dumb enough to believe shit like "mafia shoots people who are obviously town, but wrong" and then voting for obvious townies.

some things.

a) it's not bandwagoning when I'm the first person to vote him

b) discuss other people all you want, but not lynching iGrok would be nothing sort of stupid right now.

c) I always scumhunt on meta only. Call me bad for it, but I'm actually very effective at finding scum. I'm a bit of a dick so I'm less effective at convincing town.


But yeah, iGrok claiming is weird and unbelievable.


So can you provide the meta your using with comparison or not?


I already stated it... day 1 of some mafia game by Ace.

It's really not relevant anymore since he claimed an anti town role. Then he claimed a medic save (no medic in their right mind would save him at that point).


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On September 22 2011 05:51 iGrok wrote:
I'm awake now, and I've calmed down a bit.

First: Palmar, you try to meta me from a game I was BLUE. Dumb.



Now, some of you don't get why I claimed. So look at it from my perspective.

You have a check. You have a oneshot unblockable kill. If you get the ring, you become bulletproof.
If you get the ring, you're fucking set, and you become a town-aligned Bullet-Proof Vigilante with a bonus check.

I doubt mafia have a SECOND unblockable shot, it died with Sauron. Which means I really am unkillable by mafia, which makes me town-aligned.

I'll prove it. I'm not listening to syllogism or Palmar. However, syllogism, who do you think is the most town - I'll let them pick.

Fair compromise?

This is so similar to the Protactinium situation chaoser - but its better for town, and thats why I thought it would work this time.


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On September 18 2011 04:01 TranceStorm wrote:
I suppose we've decided to defer discussion on the ring until later in the game. That's fine, but I would like to point attention to someone who did catch my eye:

On September 18 2011 02:24 iGrok wrote:
Greymist's thing is not something to lynch for, but it is something to remember in the future. But he is someone to keep an eye on.
I think whoever said WBG is probably gollum with a post restriction is right.
But Drazerk has my biggest suspicions today, and lynching him will also give us the most information so far, both about greymist and the others who jumped on him. So,
##Vote Drazerk


This is iGrok's only contribution to the thread at the moment. Having played with iGrok in one game before, he was much more active at the beginning of the game and tried to reason his votes better than this (he was godfather though haha). Nevertheless, I would love to hear more from you, iGrok about your thoughts about what is going on. Currently, he seems to be slipping by relatively unnoticed.

So apparently iGrok's 'meta' wasn't even relevant from the beginning what?
For now my votes staying on Palmar.



I'm well aware you have. Everyone else really seems to want to ignore it though.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 27 2011 22:48 GMT
#2317
Wow...you know what? Fuck this. I don't like any of this. I'm going with my gut.

##vote Palmar
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 27 2011 23:33 GMT
#2437
You know what's fun Palmar? Scum will be more than happy to kill you because then they will get the Ring. Awesome...
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 27 2011 23:34 GMT
#2442
On September 28 2011 08:34 kitaman27 wrote:
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On September 28 2011 08:33 jcarlsoniv wrote:
You know what's fun Palmar? Scum will be more than happy to kill you because then they will get the Ring. Awesome...


lol not that you mind. I have to say, you kinda broke my heart when you abandoned me.

I stil <3 you though ^_^


Lol I sowwy
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 27 2011 23:54 GMT
#2476
On September 28 2011 08:53 heist wrote:
Buck up guys. All is not lost. All you have to do is trust me, trust Drazerk, and trust Kita.


lol oh?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 27 2011 23:59 GMT
#2484
On September 28 2011 08:59 heist wrote:
Mafia has been decimated of their vets. We know the neutrals. Don't know why everyone is ready to give up.


Just curious. Why is it that we just have to trust you?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 28 2011 00:11 GMT
#2496
On September 28 2011 09:04 heist wrote:
Just look at this list:

Greymist
raynpelikoneet
jcarlsoniv
TranceStorm

Out of these 4, at least 1 is mafia. Bet on it.



That's the Palmar vote list, yah? I feel that rayn is probably town. I don't have too much of a read on Greymist, probably town. Trance is my best scum read at the moment out of that list. I feel like he hasn't really done much this game.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 28 2011 00:12 GMT
#2500
On September 28 2011 09:01 heist wrote:
Fine don't. But dear god, dont kill me.


Hey, I would love to have someone around I can definitely trust. I just don't like people saying I should trust them with no real reason to do so. This is largely why I have been against Palmar this whole game.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 28 2011 00:26 GMT
#2509
I might have to redact my "rayn is probably town statement" T_T
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 29 2011 18:44 GMT
#2642
On September 30 2011 03:32 kitaman27 wrote:
heh scum don't always vote together cyber. If anything, they try to spread their votes apart so they can't be connected to each other.

@rayn, who do you want to lynch and why?

@jcarl, you were pretty absent the previous lynch and didn't come in until the last minute to vote Palmar. Thoughts?


Yeah, I've been sitting here just trying to think and work it out. Our remaining candidates have been pretty lurkerish. Like, what happened to GGQ?

I feel like Cyber just looking at the votes and trying to determine who is scum off that list isn't very useful. He just posted a list of 3 confirmed town members. I would be pretty satisfied lynching him. Although, GGQ is probably scum just sitting and hiding and doing nothing.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 30 2011 01:56 GMT
#2668
Sorry for the lurking lately. Busy day.

Kita and Drazerk, I will be more inclined to listen to your opinions (obviously) because you're confirmed town. But why is there no focus on GGQ?

All game, the ONLY person he focused on was iGrok. Like, unwaveringly. Now, I think it is highly likely that iGrok was meant to be bussed the entire time he was alive. Town was just too derpy to do it (not excluding myself). GGQ pushing iGrok so hard without really any other posts directed at anything else raises flags for me.


On September 26 2011 06:18 GGQ wrote:
Hey guys, birthday weekend was busy, lol, but I see we finally got iGrok.

This SHOULD go without saying, but we now kill people that tried to save iGrok yesterday. There's no point flipping over backwards trying to convince yourself that people could be scum when there's perfectly good scum standing right there.


Basically, "No point in looking at me, the person who pushed iGrok the whole time (in the very few posts I made), when we can attack some perfectly juicy townies".


On September 28 2011 09:47 GGQ wrote:
I think I'm supposed to be modkilled =/

Have mercy, curu? I can catch up on the thread tonight

If I'm modkilled, chaoser is 99% the sk, cyber, pyo, and heist are probably the mafia


At least one of them are scum. Possibly two of them. If GGQ were to flip scum, this post seems like it would try to clear these players.

##vote GGQ
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 30 2011 02:13 GMT
#2670
On September 30 2011 11:09 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 10:56 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Sorry for the lurking lately. Busy day.

Kita and Drazerk, I will be more inclined to listen to your opinions (obviously) because you're confirmed town. But why is there no focus on GGQ?

All game, the ONLY person he focused on was iGrok. Like, unwaveringly. Now, I think it is highly likely that iGrok was meant to be bussed the entire time he was alive. Town was just too derpy to do it (not excluding myself). GGQ pushing iGrok so hard without really any other posts directed at anything else raises flags for me.


To be honest, I've haven't really been paying much attention to him for the exact reason you seem to think he is scummy. The one problem with the bus theory is that GGQ was on iGrok even before he came out with the third party claim. Considering all the town cred Radfield lost on day two working to save iGrok, I'm not sure that would have planned to bus him from day one.

What are you thoughts on Trance and pyo?


I think your Pyo analysis is good. I feel either Cyber or Trance is scum, just not sure which. I have no problems lynching Pyo, but I definitely want GGQ to actually do something.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 30 2011 16:00 GMT
#2679
On September 30 2011 23:17 Pyo wrote:
you kids never learn... you're really gonna go with another last minute vote swap/bandwagon? w/e

##vote: cyber_cheese


7+ hours left hardly constitutes last minute
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 30 2011 17:50 GMT
#2692
Pyo it is. Sad to see you go rayn =(
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