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Just think about it, a scum-team with a mix of active and inactive players can exploit silent townies who have no idea where to go or target by sacrificing them late in the game as potential scum while they can focus on killing off power roles. Forcing all of them to be active deprives them of one level of camouflage and forces them to either expose their gameplan or cover their tracks. Both yield information on who we have to end up killing.
Seems to me that's what's happening right now. A scum team exploiting the silent townies to try and get them lynched day 1.
But whatever, I'll entertain the scenario. You say you want Jackal and one other to be the primary targets. Well, who do you want your +1 to be?
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Navi, WBG, do you mind putting your votes on a usefull candidate? Unless you plan on really pushing for your current targets' lynches in the final hours, which I highly doubt will be successful.
WBG, what are you thinking on either jackal or prpl
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EBWOP: navi, you ninja voted under my nose lol
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Oh boy, what a useful and informative post, cyber! /sarcasm
So...all of our lynch candidates you want to keep around til at least next day...lovely.
You find trance suspicious for coming up with a ring plan (albeit a pretty bad one), and yet you'll ignore the fact that jackal wants to give WBG the ring and lynch WBG...
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I know for a fact you don't have the ring, WBG. Curu said giving the ring is a night action. So you wouldn't get it before the lynch. Unless there's some power that can instantly transfer it, which there's really no point in speculating about.
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On September 19 2011 05:37 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 03:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
Jackal is additionally suspicious because he says he knows how I play yet he seems to have completely forgotten my appearance in Ace's game.
I was hella scummy in Ace's game and I fucking flipped medic. I have my own reasons for WHAT I do, but that doesn't make me scum. Well sorry for giving you credit as some one I took to be a good player then. You played scummy as town in Aces game and lost it for us. And no I never said we should give you the ring AND lynch you. AND and OR are two completely different words with different meanings. I still stand by my statement. Who ever has the ring give it to him and get him out of here. He's playing for his own reasons. He doesn't give a shit about town. If he doesn't get it lynch him. He's useless.
What makes you think that if WBG gets the ring, he and the ring will leave the game?
Let's just say I have a rather...personal interest in this.
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Also:
On September 19 2011 05:08 chaos13 wrote:Sorry I haven't been around, been busy, and this may be my only chance to post today. I will be voting for supersoft. Let's take a look at some of his posts: Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 20:26 supersoft wrote:
i was thinking the same about wbg and I also filtered him. wbgs post seem to be artificial to me.
Take note of this - he thinks WBG is scummy. While he doesn't say it outright (not wanting to commit to a stance) he implies it by saying it's 'artificial'. Now we've got his opinion on a bunch of different players, and in the post following this one he states that these are the players he is most suspicious of. Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 09:25 supersoft wrote:
okay I just catched up and made my notes.
chaoser
votes Greymist to start the discussion and pressure him (doesnt really vote in the thread)
DrH and Drazerk follow him on that - therefore he concludes that they are probably town.
„From that action, I'm leaning on Dr.H and Drazerk being town since they immediately pick up on what I'm trying to do and votes to put pressure on
greymist.“
This might be some kind of a scumslip. I don't know why he posts that. They are not under pressure and he's not under pressure.
He also votes prplhz. I don't think prplhz is a better lynchcandidate than Greymist. Chaoser is suspicious in my eyes
Not once has he mentioned either Greymist or prplhz previously, and he provides no reasons for his reads here. Apparently because chaoser disagrees with supersoft's unspoken reads, that makes him suspicious. This is not townie behavior.
GreYMisT
He made a joke about the ring in his first post. Chaoser DrH and Drazerk vote him. I defend him and say it probably was a joke. He comes back and says that chaoser and DrH provided good reasons for their votes on him? - Suspicious. Obviously they had no good reasons, they just wanted to start a discussion.
Okay. Later on he agrees with me and says it was a joke.
Recaps what Greymist has done this game. Cool. That provides nothing useful at all, anyone could have done this. Weak reason for being suspicious. Again, not townie behavior.
@ Navillus
ah, you claim VT. I'd like to know what race you are. like hobbit/dwarf etc. Just curious. Can you say your name? I just want to know.
Why is this guy on your suspicious list?
@ Drazerk
How do you know, that postrestricions are definetely in place. Are you restricted? I'll filter you :-P
about Drazerk: He votes grey, thinks he posted a reason before, but hasnt... lol
Again, just repeating what's happened so far. Providing nothing new or useful.
iGrok
Votes Drazerk. Gives no reason. I expect way more out of him. I saw him play as GF in my first mafiagame on TL.net.
He made huge posts, gave reasons etc. If you're town, please give some more reasons etc.
Best reasoning so far, but still weak. His entire explanation here is that he plays better; doesn't find any scummy behavior, just that he isn't townie enough.
@ TranceStorm
your plan sucks.
Bad plan =/= scum. Besides, his plan really isn't that bad. I can't see any way in which it will hurt us badly.
Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 09:28 supersoft wrote:
these players are suspicious for me so far. WBG isn't he could be everything. He also could be Bilbo who's crazy and just wants his ring back; he could be Gollum; he could be Sauron. Whatever, we don't know. Remember earlier when I was talking about what sort of contradictions are scumtells and which aren't? This is one that is a scum tell. For no apparent reason, WBG is no longer suspicious. In fact, supersoft doesn't commit to any particular stance here. After feeling WBG was artificial, he could now be absolutely anything. This encompasses two different mafia characteristics in one: 1. Contradiction of opinion without new evidence 2. Non-committal wishy-washy stance These are the only posts with notable content from supersoft. He's scum. ##Vote supersoft
A pretty useless vote. Having this and the erandorr votes starting at the same time is doing nothing to help town.
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Mig, how strictly is the "no editing" going to be enforced. I wouldn't want people tossing votes on someone who will be mod killed...
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On September 19 2011 06:56 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 06:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Erandorr, I just saw what you edited out and that is 100% not a "wrong thread" edit. That was not a vote, that was a large post including multiple quotes in an attempt to defend yourself. Your first line was "I can see why people think I'm a good target".
##Vote Erandorr If this is true Erandorr needs to die. Will however wait until I read the edited text before switching my vote just in case your lying.
So nice of you to join us! I hope you enjoyed your lurker vacation.
Seeing as you haven't posted anything about prpl or jackal, I would like to know your thoughts about both of them.
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On September 19 2011 07:13 prplhz wrote:
so jcarlsoniv why aren't you asking greymist about the same?
he's been very much lurkey too, voting me for chaoser parroting reasons and then a picture of jackie chan and then or he disappears until i call him out for just that? why is drazerk more interesting than other people who are arguably more lurkey? also jackal is off the table, erandorr is the new deal.
Because I am currently doing my homework for tomorrow, and refreshing slower than I would if I wasn't busy. He posted while I was asking drazerk. You are correct, however. The same goes for grey and other lurkers. Once I can sit down and look at my list, I'll want to start poking the lurkers more.
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On September 19 2011 07:27 Erandorr wrote:I am starting to get offended that people actually think I am scum compared to those guys 
You shouldn't be offended. We have every reason to believe that you are scum. It worries me how quickly the bandwagon has happened, disregarding the fact that Radfield's post analysis on you was very good.
On September 19 2011 07:26 prplhz wrote:
@jcarlsoniv
well homework sucks and all that i'm happy i did that earlier today 'cause the time before deadline is usually pretty hefty. greymist posted 20 mins before drazerk too, and your 2 line post at drazerk was 6 mins after greymist's last post, you took 6 mins to write a 2 line post? if you are that busy then why do you feel the pressing need to post stuff right now and not wait until you can sit down and consult that list of yours?
You, sir, are correct. I missed that post. Drazerk was forefront in my mind because he was someone I wanted to watch. But yes, mistakes happen.
I really would like to see people making a decision instead of "abstaining". Right now is not the time to have votes for pressure and things like that. It's clear that trance, iGrok, and supersoft won't be lynched today. Cyber, GGQ, Archon, supersoft, chaos13: please put your votes somewhere useful and take a stance on what is happening right now, instead of making useless votes.
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On September 19 2011 08:03 Navillus wrote:
Or blue actually, I just realized that fits too.
If he's blue, I'll cry over how pitiful his defense was...
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On September 19 2011 08:09 sandroba wrote:
I just got here and got a fuckton to read. Curu told me 10pm but now I see it's in fact 8pm =/
Did I get modkilled?
I believe he gave you a pass for the vote, but you will still need to make your 5 post quota...I think?
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On September 19 2011 08:12 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 08:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 19 2011 08:09 sandroba wrote:
I just got here and got a fuckton to read. Curu told me 10pm but now I see it's in fact 8pm =/
Did I get modkilled? I believe he gave you a pass for the vote, but you will still need to make your 5 post quota...I think? Preferably more than 5. :/
Lol I didn't say 5 max =P
On September 19 2011 08:12 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 08:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 19 2011 08:09 sandroba wrote:
I just got here and got a fuckton to read. Curu told me 10pm but now I see it's in fact 8pm =/
Did I get modkilled? I believe he gave you a pass for the vote, but you will still need to make your 5 post quota...I think? Thinking about that I think a lot of people need to make the 5 post quota ( JeeJee springs to mind )
Yeah. I think they have until Morning 2, right? I could be wrong though.
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On September 19 2011 08:21 kitaman27 wrote:
If I had a ring, I'd pass it to jcarl <3
Oh you. You'll always be my lover.
And don't you worry about passing it to me <3
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How the FUCK did you miss the vote. You've been active this entire time.
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On September 19 2011 08:42 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 08:40 jcarlsoniv wrote:
How the FUCK did you miss the vote. You've been active this entire time. He voted. He voted for me.
-_- I'm derping hard. I don't quite understand why he's mad he missed the vote...Unless I'm missing something.
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On September 19 2011 08:43 prplhz wrote:
uh you kids should maybe relax, it's just a game and all you know
And this. Everyone should make like supersoft and go driving around getting smashed and posting on your phones.
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