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Eh its 2 AM and I saw the replacement pm 5 minutes ago. I dont know if I can provide anything before tomorrow
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On September 20 2011 09:14 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 09:12 Jackal58 wrote:
Hey Bugs? If you're town why aren't you playing scummy? I don't play scummy when I'm town. Not my fault people think my style is scummy.
that really made me giggle after lotr :D
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lol trying to catch up with this is making my head hurt
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On September 20 2011 09:49 Curu wrote:
no ur thick
##vote curu
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On September 20 2011 10:43 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 10:23 Nisani201 wrote:On September 20 2011 10:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
*facehoof*
yo Nisani. I'm going to briefly entertain the thought that you're town. Obviously you think I'm mafia.
Other than me, who do you think is mafia? You can't only have one scumread... It's mini mafia, so yes I can have one scumread. I would like to see Erandorr post more when he gets the chance, though. wat You're seriously telling us you only have one scum read? Okay, you're still scum.
who are your 3 right now?
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and no thats no scumslip i jsut assume there are 3 in this game
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On September 20 2011 11:15 Forumite wrote:I guess scum thought Greymist was looking more Town than I did. Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 11:01 Curu wrote:
Because a 3 Townie Mason circle is so OP in a game with 13 people. GMarshal knows how to balance games. Okay, let´s assume there´s one scum among us. Why me and not you? Still waiting for tnkted to make the report he promised us. Also, someone cockroleblocked me tonight.
Did you seriously just ask that?
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On September 20 2011 11:37 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 11:21 Erandorr wrote:On September 20 2011 11:15 Forumite wrote:I guess scum thought Greymist was looking more Town than I did. On September 20 2011 11:01 Curu wrote:
Because a 3 Townie Mason circle is so OP in a game with 13 people. GMarshal knows how to balance games. Okay, let´s assume there´s one scum among us. Why me and not you? Still waiting for tnkted to make the report he promised us. Also, someone cockroleblocked me tonight. Did you seriously just ask that? He´s pushing that there must be a scum among us 3, he must know he could just as well be the one.
its 4 am for you too isnt it?
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Since you dont seem to get why I am kinda weirded out:
Okay, let´s assume there´s one scum among us. Why me and not you?
Eh because either he is town and knows that so he isnt even thinking about that so your question is just stupid. Or he is scum and still posting under the assumption that he is town.
I sort of think Curu just might know what his own role is, and that THAT is your only defense at this point in the game just baffles me.
Asuming you are town you should either think he is full of shit and scum or wrong about the circle and town.
But you are not saying "LOL scrub I know I am town so it must be you" but instead say "well uhm IT COULD BE YOU TOO".
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thats to forumite btw
In other news : I am going to bed , night all.
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And my head just keeps hurting 
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Cyber. what are your thoughts on nisani , bugs and sevryn/me at this point?
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On September 21 2011 04:35 Lucidity wrote:
Cyber_Cheese is either incredibly bad, or scum. I would like to see him die. But we can keep him around for comedic effect.
Today, either Forumite or Jackal should die.
Thoughts?
Forumite I get, he is playing a lot dumber than I would think he would as town based on the conversations I had with him. I would be totally fine with lynching him
But Jackal you gotta explain to me
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On September 21 2011 06:14 Nisani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 03:37 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
^that aside, it's still a good idea that everybody follow through with the plan, and with this in mind Forumite Curu and Lucidity are my current mafia suspects, Forumite and Curu because chaos FoS'd them both and Lucidity is self explanatory. This post does not make sense, if Forumite and Cury are mafia, then I must be mafia too (unless GM is epic trolling me). You're starting to get to dangerously close to WBG's level.
I actually agree with this. I cannot believe that GM would put 1 town with 2 scum . Forumite is giving me really bad vibes and is right now my number one target. We cannot lynch based on the assumption that 1 out of three people are mafia anymore. If dreamflower is getting modkilled then we will be dangerously close to mylo/lylo already. that forumite is in that circle is a bonus , though :D
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On September 21 2011 06:29 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 06:24 Lucidity wrote:On September 19 2011 11:07 GMarshal wrote:
It is now night 2! You have 24 actions to get actions in to me. Dreamflower did not vote, and will be replaced in the next 24 hours or modkilled with the day post. I still need 2 replacements
What happened with this? Changing the subject so soon?
could you guys stop at some point you are only shitting up the thread. That is actually a decent point, because dreamflower getting modkilled would change our situation pretty quickly (assuming he isnt scum which would be awesome :D )
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On September 21 2011 06:42 Lucidity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 06:33 Erandorr wrote:On September 21 2011 06:14 Nisani201 wrote:On September 21 2011 03:37 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
^that aside, it's still a good idea that everybody follow through with the plan, and with this in mind Forumite Curu and Lucidity are my current mafia suspects, Forumite and Curu because chaos FoS'd them both and Lucidity is self explanatory. This post does not make sense, if Forumite and Cury are mafia, then I must be mafia too (unless GM is epic trolling me). You're starting to get to dangerously close to WBG's level. I actually agree with this. I cannot believe that GM would put 1 town with 2 scum . Forumite is giving me really bad vibes and is right now my number one target. We cannot lynch based on the assumption that 1 out of three people are mafia anymore. If dreamflower is getting modkilled then we will be dangerously close to mylo/lylo already. that forumite is in that circle is a bonus , though :D Is that a scumslip? GM had no problem instakilling 3 townies in XLIV, so this delay makes me think dreamflower might be mafia ;p And just ignore Cyber_Cheese's posts.
Seriously ? :D
He took his time replacing Sev as well btw, does that make me scum too ?
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On September 21 2011 22:39 Jackal58 wrote:It didn't Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 22:22 Nisani201 wrote:
No you guys are wrong.
I have the Element of Honesty, but I have to give it to someone in order for it to work. But I don't know if it's a specific person or just anyone. That's a lie. ##UNVOTE:
##VOTE: Nisani201.
I dont exactly get what is going on here, why is that a lie and what is the element of honesty?
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Wait do we actually believe that nisani could be THAT stupid? He was not under no pressure to reveal anything and if he really is scum than that would blow my mind. Seriously , who would be so stupid?
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All right cool jackal but stay with me for a second. Why on earth would nisani claim having this thing at this point in the game ?
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If he was scum of course. (fail posting today )
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Btw this whole thing here convinced me even further that forumite is scum.
Time to kill some scum
##vote forumite
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On September 21 2011 23:47 Nisani201 wrote:
fuck
fuck
fuck
shit
I am an idiot.
I have the element of generosity, not honesty.
And now I'm going to get lynched.
Uhh, shit.
##Unvote
##Vote: Cyber_cheese
So who wants it.
Give that thing to anyone other that jackal or tnkted (for obvious reasons) and then we take it from there
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Nisani, please tell me you are scum and not that stupid right now
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On September 22 2011 00:00 Jackal58 wrote:
I can't drink enough to make this shit make sense.
Drink more. At some point it will all make sense. And then you get lynched . And then you reread what you wrote the next morning and probably laugh.
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On September 22 2011 00:14 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 00:09 tnkted wrote:On September 21 2011 23:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
Wtf?
I want to point out the fact that, having been caught on this scumslip his only choice is to give away the piece.
Him giving away the piece is NOT AN INDICATOR OF ALIGNMENT No its not but it is an indicator that his 'scumslip' was an honest mistake and not a scumslip at all. Which makes him look more town. I'll remind you that I felt the same way about you until I recieved the pieces of honesty from yall, which made me feel that YOU were more town. People who have lived in glass houses and who have had stones thrown at them shouldn't throw stones at their neighbors on glass street. Er, my metaphor kind of ran away from me there, but you get the point. And alright nisani, we just have to wait for GM to send me a PM telling me what's what. In the meantime, ##Unvote. While we wait though, I want jackal's opinion on scum and on what we should do tonight with the items. I propose that (since we can't communicate at night) we use wifom to keep mafia from hitting us. It worked last night, since greymyst died instead of one of the two of us. Mafia knows that we can either protect the other one, or ourselves, and that we will probably do one of them. If mafia hits either of us then town knows that mafia knew who was going to be protected, so they knew it was safe to hit that person. Town then lynches the other one for revealing whats what. So we are probably safe. Just to make sure, and to make sure that scum can't roleblock or steal from the person WITH the items, I propose that we use the same principle of wifom to switch the items around. Let do something like, if by a certain time I don't send you my items, you send yours to me. Mafia won't know which one of us has them since we didn't post anything in thread, but the two of us will know. Then, right before the nightpost, one of us posts what happend. Thoughts? Why on EARTH would you keep alive someone who clearly has not been reading the thread? If he had claimed anything else it would be believable, but he chose HONESTY. think about that.
the fuck are you doing right now, bugs?
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On September 22 2011 01:21 Jackal58 wrote:
Erandorr
Lucidity Kindness shard
Forumite Honesty shard
Cyber_Cheese
Jackal58 Loyalty shard
Nisani201 Generosity
Curu
tnkted Loyalty shard
wherebugsgo Honesty shard
What do you guys see?
##UNVOTE
##VOTE: Cyber_Cheese
I will ask GM if I have anything since he only sent me my role pm maybe I got something too
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On September 22 2011 05:11 Lucidity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 05:08 Nisani201 wrote:
Forumite and Curu CANNOT BOTH BE SCUM. God, you guys are stupid. They are still both scummy. If one flips scum the other suddenly looks much more town, but until then???
I think I wrote earlier that its too late to lynch based on the assumption that one out of 3 must be scum. not a good trade for us at this point. So just do the correct thing and vote for the person you are most convinced is scum, that one out of those has to be scum is a bonus, nothing more.
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On September 22 2011 05:16 Lucidity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 05:08 Forumite wrote:On September 22 2011 04:54 Lucidity wrote:On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up
##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58
I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?
OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese. On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person. then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3 On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys. When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind: On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead. So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted? WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense. tnkted, any update on elements? Forumite is confirmed scum at this point. If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious? Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum? If he was scum, and then claimed to have the element which Jackal has, then that throws suspicion at Jackal, and maybe even on tnkted when Jackal gives the element to tnkted to show he has it. Either Jackal or Nisani could be the one to be thrown in front of a lynch, if it was Jackal then it´s fine, if things turned bad then Nisani could recheck and remove suspicion on himself, but by then he might have delayed the game 6+ hours, if we just wait for GM to fix the item-PMs, and then wait for whoever is to receive the item. I´ve seen a game go silent for 23 hours because someone said he had an amazing analysis coming up, don´t tell me that´s pro-Town. That makes no sense as scum. Jackal AND tnkted claim that they have the element. So trying to go after Jackal alone is silly. Furthermore, they actually used the stone and got my name, WITH the "confused" part, which I didn't claim in thread. Coming late to the party and claiming to have Honesty and that that makes Jackal scum is RETARDED. Not only that, but the setup is all wrong. He didn't claim his element and call Jackal scum. He claimed his element and then it had to be pointed out by OTHERS that Honesty was already out there. And don't come with this "herp derp he never read the thread so that's why he tried the gambit". If Nisani is scum he's in a scum TEAM. They would have worked on the plan together. There's no way he would've fucked up like that. There's no way that plan would've even left the QT. Sorry, but you are attacking a derping townie, not someone playing pro scum. This is seriously eating at me now.
wow thanks lucidity, that is what I wrote earlier too ! Lets kill forumite, yes? yes!
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On September 22 2011 05:19 Lucidity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 05:17 Erandorr wrote:On September 22 2011 05:16 Lucidity wrote:On September 22 2011 05:08 Forumite wrote:On September 22 2011 04:54 Lucidity wrote:On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up
##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58
I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?
OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese. On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person. then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3 On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys. When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind: On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead. So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted? WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense. tnkted, any update on elements? Forumite is confirmed scum at this point. If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious? Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum? If he was scum, and then claimed to have the element which Jackal has, then that throws suspicion at Jackal, and maybe even on tnkted when Jackal gives the element to tnkted to show he has it. Either Jackal or Nisani could be the one to be thrown in front of a lynch, if it was Jackal then it´s fine, if things turned bad then Nisani could recheck and remove suspicion on himself, but by then he might have delayed the game 6+ hours, if we just wait for GM to fix the item-PMs, and then wait for whoever is to receive the item. I´ve seen a game go silent for 23 hours because someone said he had an amazing analysis coming up, don´t tell me that´s pro-Town. That makes no sense as scum. Jackal AND tnkted claim that they have the element. So trying to go after Jackal alone is silly. Furthermore, they actually used the stone and got my name, WITH the "confused" part, which I didn't claim in thread. Coming late to the party and claiming to have Honesty and that that makes Jackal scum is RETARDED. Not only that, but the setup is all wrong. He didn't claim his element and call Jackal scum. He claimed his element and then it had to be pointed out by OTHERS that Honesty was already out there. And don't come with this "herp derp he never read the thread so that's why he tried the gambit". If Nisani is scum he's in a scum TEAM. They would have worked on the plan together. There's no way he would've fucked up like that. There's no way that plan would've even left the QT. Sorry, but you are attacking a derping townie, not someone playing pro scum. This is seriously eating at me now. wow thanks lucidity, that is what I wrote earlier too ! Lets kill forumite, yes? yes! What do you mean? Explain to me why you thought Nisani's claim made Forumite more scummy please.
I never did. I pushed forumite from the start, stoped morons/scum from lynching nisani overly quickly and then decided after that that its time to kill forimite. Either you read the thread really carelessly or you are intentionnaly shitting up everything.
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On September 22 2011 05:22 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 05:17 Erandorr wrote:On September 22 2011 05:16 Lucidity wrote:On September 22 2011 05:08 Forumite wrote:On September 22 2011 04:54 Lucidity wrote:On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up
##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58
I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?
OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese. On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person. then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3 On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys. When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind: On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead. So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted? WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense. tnkted, any update on elements? Forumite is confirmed scum at this point. If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious? Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum? If he was scum, and then claimed to have the element which Jackal has, then that throws suspicion at Jackal, and maybe even on tnkted when Jackal gives the element to tnkted to show he has it. Either Jackal or Nisani could be the one to be thrown in front of a lynch, if it was Jackal then it´s fine, if things turned bad then Nisani could recheck and remove suspicion on himself, but by then he might have delayed the game 6+ hours, if we just wait for GM to fix the item-PMs, and then wait for whoever is to receive the item. I´ve seen a game go silent for 23 hours because someone said he had an amazing analysis coming up, don´t tell me that´s pro-Town. That makes no sense as scum. Jackal AND tnkted claim that they have the element. So trying to go after Jackal alone is silly. Furthermore, they actually used the stone and got my name, WITH the "confused" part, which I didn't claim in thread. Coming late to the party and claiming to have Honesty and that that makes Jackal scum is RETARDED. Not only that, but the setup is all wrong. He didn't claim his element and call Jackal scum. He claimed his element and then it had to be pointed out by OTHERS that Honesty was already out there. And don't come with this "herp derp he never read the thread so that's why he tried the gambit". If Nisani is scum he's in a scum TEAM. They would have worked on the plan together. There's no way he would've fucked up like that. There's no way that plan would've even left the QT. Sorry, but you are attacking a derping townie, not someone playing pro scum. This is seriously eating at me now. wow thanks lucidity, that is what I wrote earlier too ! Lets kill forumite, yes? yes! wtf are you scumbuddies with Lucidity and Nisani too? None of you make any arguments for your proposed lynches whatsoever, you just keep distracting town attention away from Nisani. This just makes me even more confident in lynching him today.
How is that tunnel you seem to be living in these days?
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On September 22 2011 05:20 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 05:00 Lucidity wrote:
I would be absolutely over the moon if you could be lynched today. Too bad Greymist died last night for suggesting we lynch you to confirm tnkted. I don't think anyone else sees how uninterested you are in hunting scum. You often come back to if someone is interested in hunting scum. You think I´m scum due to not scumhunting, even though I have a very non-aggressive playstyle, which is why I draw votes for being wishy-washy, but that´s just the way I play, it´s not a scumtell to me, because my Town metagame is not based around pressuring and hunting as much as other players. Now, the important question here is not how I play, it´s if it is normal for Jackal to scumhunt aggressively? Do you think he´s going for easy lynches and is carefull to not take an unpopular stand?
Would you mind sharing your reads at this point?
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has cyber an excuse for being conveniently not here in those important times?
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On September 22 2011 06:05 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 06:01 tnkted wrote:
BTW the items are 'humming' really loud now, I think w/ kindness we should have something good. My guess is that Magic spawns when you have all the other 5.
its called love.
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On September 23 2011 05:11 Lucidity wrote:
It's because I needed you to look at Forumite / Jackal / Curu instead. I saw you were tunneling Nisani for bad play and "inconsistencies" which were EASILY explainable by reading the postos in the context of the thread. Maybe I didn't give his case enough attention because I wanted one of those three lynched. But like I said I'm probably giving scum too much credit. Nisani, Cheese and Erandorr could very well be scum and I won't oppose their lynches anymore.
I'll write my analysis of Jackal tomorrow and relook at Nisani as well.
So you are cool with killing basicly everyone at this point?
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Hi Nisani
What makes cyber the most certain scum at this point?
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Where is the FRIENDSHIP bugs?
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Curu, what are your reads at this point ? Other than people who ignore smileys?
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On September 23 2011 06:20 Curu wrote:I'll post them if I'm alive at the daypost.
seriously?
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and sevryn gets the credit for the unbelievably high skill scum performance
I am still amazed that you guys forgot how scummy he was and didnt target me more strongly especially since I did not actually do anything.
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Could you give us a list of all the items and effects ? Those where such a big part of this game.
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Looking at the sheet town is actually a lot stronger than I thought and I liked the dynamic the Items provided, so all in all it seems very good. We scum players actually got a bit scared of the items , because we had no idea how strong it would be, so that kept us on our toes a bit.
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The cirlce was fine with a godfather in there. No issues with that.
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On September 24 2011 10:17 Mig wrote:
Checking lurkers is completely fine WBG, and can often times be the best play. Many many games feature someone on mafia team lurking pretty hard + you have nothing to go on for forming reads with a lurker since they don't have posts. At least you can analyze the posts of someone being active.
Along with that if you check someone who was a lynch candidate they may very well end up lynched the next day regardless of what your check comes back as. In which case your check would be wasted.
Thats pretty good advice mig ...
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Could someone explain to me why jackal and tnkted were seen as 100 percent confirmed town? I didnt want to bring that up ingame since all went fairly well
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