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Anyone who reaches the conclusion that I am mafia after reading bayonette's post has issues. This barely merits being argued; it simply is. Palmar made a bad claim that directly goes against mine, which I've been hinting at for the entire game.
On September 15 2011 06:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Sandroba, Bumatlarge, BayonetteAnderson, Zona
Scum day vig, scum night vig. Well actually a bullshit claim by a bullshit night vig. And a bullshit RB claim. How the hell does a dead protector role role block anybody. Pure bullshit.
I do believe when you are shot as medic your last action goes through.
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By the way bayonette i love the flavor keep it up 
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So assuming we lynch palmar today and then jackal tomorrow, scum still get two kp, which they should most likely use on Bayonette and Zona. I'm definitely going to be a massive thorn is mafia's side, assuming everything about there being no roleblockers is true.
2 of the remaining people is scum.
GGQ - I've done a bit of a 180 on him, because after day 1 he really has done nothing for me to think he is scum, and now when the cards are on the table, he was one person I assumed would rally with palmar and jackal, and I don't think they would bank on him as someone to be their last member. Everything points town at this point so I won't include him at the moment.
sandroba - Highly doubt he's scum, but if jackal and palmar were out in the open like that, and I was put under a lot of pressure initially, I'd think we would agree to play at opposite ends of the table. If he's scum we are in trouble, but I don't think so.
chaos13 - I big fat yes. I don't see how he can't be scum at this point, I'd lynch him after jackal. He did what I expected GGQ to do and his actions today have solidified my instincts.
xtfftc - Null read ATM, even after his vote today, but one thing for sure he needs to make a relevant vote now, we cannot afford to not lynch between two people who directly contradict one another.
Mig - Curious, but since I'm reluctant to call xtf scum right now, I'm going to keep my eyes on mig. Palmar may have gunned for him early, but the whole scenario seems artificial. It would not surprise me if they are both scum. But this isn't something to guess on, this is a prime time to analyze and make your decisions as everyone's hands are laid out on the table.
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On September 15 2011 07:59 BayonnetAnderson wrote:
So, assume Palmar flips red, who should we have the vigi's shoot tonight? (remember a misfire costs us the game, we cannot afford to miss)
I propose Jackal, does anyone else have any other suggestions?
Do we really have more vigis? Are we basing that on Ace hosting the game? Or is this from what zona said that he thought there were more vigis?
Then once palmar flips red its jackal then personally I'd go with chaos.
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Bayonette and zona, up to you, both of you are pretty much townies and both of you already stated the obvious. So do what you think is best. Mislynching or not lynching loses the game for us so please dont forget to vote lol
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no dts herpity derpity but if bayonette doesnt come back you win XD
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sandroba you'd honestly put jackal who claimed parity that checked palmar as town? And you'd put bayonette as scum? Why?
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On September 15 2011 11:54 BayonnetAnderson wrote:
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKFUCK
GUESS WHAT? THE MAFIA HAS A POLITICIAN. WHO JUST BOUGHT MY VOTE.
##Vote: Bumatlarge
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I AM GOING TO GO PUNCH KITTENS IN THE FACE.
GAHHHH, I HATE THIS GAME. HSDKJASDHJFSDAHJSDA
o rly...?
well then damn well played mafia  cant we bargain here?
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Why would he lie about that as scum if he instantly wins when the lynch makes him win? Unless there is town still on my list we lose.
Though it's curious considering that I think Ace would have called the game if mafia had a politician...
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Well hey maybe we have another medic, in which case we could still win, if it takes 5 to lynch at 9. Though that is unlikely considering the set-up I see here.
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Yeah even though lylo at day3 seems rough, we did mislynch twice, and have two off vig hits, even with the 2 saves that WBG gave us.
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On September 15 2011 12:04 Zona wrote:
sandroba, I think it's a mistake
Bayonnet's statement, no matter whether you interpret him as lying or telling the truth, shows Palmar is scum.
Well unfortuantely, if nothing changes at 11:59, then it's actually better to lynch someone. Yet with a politician, I find weird that ace would keep the game going in this situation. Just something to think about in our final hour. It would make sense that a game changing role at this point wouldn't claim if he was a medic or a vet.
We have a shot
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I claimed before the game started 
y u no shoot me mafia? I thought chaos was pretty obvious, but jackal being town and BA being scum threw me off a lot. Dumb roles getting in the way of logic.
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Why people gotta hate? I was decently active, but not useless :/ maybe you can't imagine me as not scum :D
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EPT
