EPTBum what do you think about sinani/jackal? Both you and jackal have pretty much avoided commenting on sinani this game.
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Bum what do you think about sinani/jackal? Both you and jackal have pretty much avoided commenting on sinani this game. | ||
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Normally you are confident and tenacious in getting your reads lynched but this game you are just half assing everything. You were gone for 2 full days and when you come back you don't discuss a single person who had votes on them and then write like half a paragraph of analysis against Xt as your only contribution. And this was your only post actually pushing for him. On September 12 2011 06:20 sandroba wrote: Bros, I really think we should lynch into TAA vote list day1, since there ought to be scum there I'm pretty sure at least 2 if not more. I really can't tell witch side of palmar/jackal and wbg/mig is more likely to be scum, but I feel pretty good about lynching xfttfc. Such an incredibly weak effort considering your normal play. So instead of pushing hard for iGrok/Xt your original scum reads you just randomly jump onto the sinani/TAA bandwagons without a second thought. The only thing that keeps me from being sure you are scum is I don't really see you pushing any scum objectives either, which I would normally expect from your scum play. So who besides jackal do you think is most likely scum? | ||
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Sandroba's play at this point I don't think can be explained with excuses. He has had 3 different reasons for not contributing now (gone from house for 2 days, hungover, playing LOL). Why even stop in to post saying you will contribute tomorrow but going to sleep now if you aren't even going to list your suspects in case you die? He also ignored my question where I asked him who besides jackal he thought was scum. If someone is gone for a few days and their activity drops I can understand it but the game has been going on what 6 days real time days now? And sandroba still hasn't given the town anything whatsoever. At this point it is obvious sandroba doesn't care about the town making the correct decisions and winning, which I have never seen from him before as a townie. Along with that the analysis sandroba has provided this game is incredibly weak and so far below his normal play. His attacks on jackal/Xt were both very half hearted, he neglected to actually mention pretty much anything that has actually occurred in game and he didn't actually try to convince people of his case at all. Normally once sandroba picks out a target he is relentless in pushing for their lynches. Look at any of sandroba's recent town games where he almost single handedly gets scum lynched. His play this game is pretty much the polar opposite. | ||
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Do any vigs want to claim? | ||
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Along with that if palmar is mafia why did he claim at the start of the day? If palmar is mafia and sandroba is town there would be literally 0 reason for palmar to ever fake claim. It was clear I was going to push for sandroba's lynch today and most of the town highly suspected him. So why would palmar ever do it as mafia when it would draw huge suspicion onto himself and why would he make a claim that implicated bum as red instead of sandroba? The only plausible scenario I can see is if him/sandroba are both mafia but if that's the case why have palmar claim dt instead of sandroba and why have sandroba attack the claim so ferociously? It's lylo there isn't any need for mafia to try and set up plans to buy future town cred so I would expect sandroba to either remain silent or support palmar if they were both mafia. I still think sandroba is mafia. 3 different excuses and being afk for basically 6 days of real time is too unlike him. And It was clear sandroba didn't care at all about the town making the correct decisions before today. He only appeared today out of nowhere once palmar made a claim which implicated bum. So considering jackal's green check on palmar and the fact that there is 0 mafia motivation for palmar to fake claim in this spot I think bum/sandroba are both mafia. I will most likely be voting bum but I will wait a bit longer incase any new information is presented. | ||
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I just can't believe sandroba is town. For 6 days he does absolutely nothing and shows he doesn't care at all about the game. Then now he comes in and plays to emotion acting pissed off about how everyone besides him is useless? Where was this emotion/effort at any other point in the game? I just don't buy it. It's so inconsistent with his play this entire game. And there was seriously no reason whatsoever for palmar to claim dt as mafia at the start of the day. So ##vote bumatlarge | ||
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Look at the people who are on his voting list, Bum (shady), sandroba (unbelievably shady), Xt (lists no reason for his vote and is flying way under the radar), BA as jackal just pointed out was gunho for lynching sandroba/bum yesterday but now out of nowhere is siding with them, GGQ. Do you really believe all of these people are town? Would jackal/palmar both randomly fake claim dt out of nowhere today? I mean seriously tell me why they would do this? Especially when they could very easily have pushed for sandroba today. Also look at this from a balance viewpoint. If jackal/palmar are both fake claiming dts then town has just one medic (which roleblocks its target), a double voter and possibly 1/2 vigs. If that is the case what possible sense does it make for town to have a PGO? It would be incredibly op. The jailbreaker would roleblock the PGO (I assume) so the PGO would literally have no town role it could randomly kill besides the vigs. PGO's are generally only used in cases where there are plenty of townie roles they could accidentally kill because otherwise they are way way too strong since they are virtually guaranteed to kill a mafia, if they aren't lynched. So seriously use some common sense. Look closely at the people voting palmar right now and look at the fact that it makes absolutely no sense for there to be a pgo in this game when there are no townie roles it could accidentally kill. | ||
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Bum = scum | ||
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Palmar/jackal last 2 scum. Game is pretty much over at this point unless there is a SK. | ||
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So only debate is between me/jackal. I think it should be obvious if anyone reads all of our posts this game. But I will answer any questions people have of me. | ||
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But look why would palmar/jackal ever fake claim dts as SK? They fake claimed to support each other because they are mafia. We kill both of them if there is a SK left then it will be 3 handed and town can try to determine it then. | ||
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Then look at yesterday lol. He completely ignored the fact that palmar lied about visiting bum and changed his claim to he was insane and mafia framed WBG lol and then he told the sk to shoot me/ggq. I mean jackal isn't completely retarded. I don't really get how this isn't obvious to you. | ||
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