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On September 13 2011 08:05 Palmar wrote:
I already pmd Ace about that Jackal he answered:
A medic protecting a target will be notified that they stopped a hit.
The target will also be notified that they survived a hit.
I think it's okay I paste that, seeing as it's just rules stuff.
OK then.
Ace - A medic protecting a target will be notified that they stopped a hit. The target will also be notified that they survived a hit. Is this true?
Not that I don't trust you guys or anything like that. I just don't trust you. Don't take it personally.
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This is all assuming we have a medic.
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On September 13 2011 08:43 wherebugsgo wrote:
why would Palmar pm Ace instead of asking the question in the thread?
Why would Zona?
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On September 13 2011 09:10 GGQ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2011 09:03 Jackal58 wrote:On September 13 2011 08:43 wherebugsgo wrote:
why would Palmar pm Ace instead of asking the question in the thread? Why would Zona? Why so defensive about Palmar?
I'm not. I think WBG and Zona and you are all scum. Why is WBG so defensive about Zona. And why did you call me out and not WBG as well?
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Thank you Ace.
As long as you're being agreeable did Palmar and Zona PM you regarding this?
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On September 13 2011 09:17 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2011 09:03 Jackal58 wrote:On September 13 2011 08:43 wherebugsgo wrote:
why would Palmar pm Ace instead of asking the question in the thread? Why would Zona? the idea was already out there, no? I'm not defending Zona over Palmar, I just don't think that action lines up with Zona's play so far. It does line up with Palmar's, though.
No it wasn't. Palmar claimed he asked Ace then Zona jumped in with her answer. It wasn't "out there" at all. Ace confirmed Palmar's answer. He didn't confirm Palmar asked it but he confirmed the answer. I'm inclined to believe Palmar at this point. Zona may have asked as well but your question is leading and scummy looking. Palmar can't ask but Zona can. And Zona hedged her answer. You're both scum bro.
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On September 13 2011 09:21 Ace wrote:
Does that even matter?
Liars always matter. 2 people claimed they PMed the host with the same or similar question. Did they both ask it?
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On September 13 2011 09:28 bumatlarge wrote:
Let's see how fast jackal can get modkilled?
Living on the edge baby.
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On September 13 2011 08:10 Zona wrote:
To be more explicit, I suspect that it's possible Ace's actual answer will be different from what Palmar supplied.
I believe Palmar asked. I believe you're lying.
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On September 13 2011 09:38 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2011 09:33 Jackal58 wrote:On September 13 2011 08:10 Zona wrote:
To be more explicit, I suspect that it's possible Ace's actual answer will be different from what Palmar supplied. I believe Palmar asked. I believe you're lying. Jackal, tell me what mafia has to gain from lying in such a situation.
Town cred. Hell we don't even know if scum have 2 kp and a role blocker.
In a game with 16 players and 1/4 of them are scum 2 kp seems quite OP to me.
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On September 13 2011 09:45 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2011 09:41 Jackal58 wrote:On September 13 2011 09:38 chaos13 wrote:On September 13 2011 09:33 Jackal58 wrote:On September 13 2011 08:10 Zona wrote:
To be more explicit, I suspect that it's possible Ace's actual answer will be different from what Palmar supplied. I believe Palmar asked. I believe you're lying. Jackal, tell me what mafia has to gain from lying in such a situation. Town cred. Hell we don't even know if scum have 2 kp and a role blocker. In a game with 16 players and 1/4 of them are scum 2 kp seems quite OP to me. So you think PM'ing Ace and asking about medics gets you town cred?
Somebody has missed the big picture.
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Another day, another excuse.
##VOTE: Sandroba
Sorry Bugs. I was wrong.
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On September 13 2011 18:35 Palmar wrote:
I'm an alignment cop, apparently wbg is guilty. I have an innocent report on bum from night one.
a) wbg got framed
b) someone bussed someone
c) I'm insane
So this means bum could just as well be scum as anyone else, because there is apparently some mindfuck mechanic in this game.
???????
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On September 13 2011 18:53 Palmar wrote:
I know you're reading this Jackal, time to claim.
The rest of you we need everyone to claim.
I left for work after my last post so this is the first I've seen it.
First off you're right on the voting.
##UNVOTE: Sandroba
Secondly I'm not sure a mass claim atm is optimal. Zona appears to have been protected by WBG on night one. If we believe Bum he appears to have been protected last night. If we have no more protection roles a mass claim will probably just create a mass grave. I'm gonna wait for Zona to claim a shot on Bum before I get behind any mass claim scenarios.
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The way I see it.
sandroba
Jackal58
Palmar
bumatlarge
BayonnetAnderson
GGQ
Zona
chaos13
xtfftc
Mig
I'd be ok with any of those marked red as a lynch.
Of the others I'm leaning towards Zona as town. This is influenced by WBG flipping town.
Of Bum, bayonnet, and Chaos13 I really have no clue atm.
I suggest we all weigh in on Sandroba first.
Yea or nay on his lynch today?
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I'm leaning towards Palmar being insane. As I said immediately prior to that post I want to hear from Zona before I make up my mind on mass claims and a whole bunch of other shit.
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On September 14 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 01:18 sandroba wrote:
I'm towny. Okay this claim possibly means 3 things:
1) Palmar is scum and Bum town. Makes some sense.
2) Bum is scum and Palmar is town. The odds of mafia framing wbg the night they shot him are simply ridiculous. That means Palmar is insane if really a DT. Palmar has to know this and if he was town he would be pushing for bum like a crazy man today, not suddenly deciding to go after me after he said yesterday he believed me. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Palmar just has no reason to assume bum got framed night one. Also not knowing about his sanity in the first place he would not be yelling bum is town before he confirmed it.
3) Both are scum. This makes the most sense, because palmar is not going after bum, which would make his story the most believable.
4)Both are town. For this to happen Bum needs to have been framed night one and palmar has to be behaving like an idiot as a DT. He keeps yelling Bum is town for no reason and somehow mafia doesn't pick up on this and shoot him. Not likely at all.
your point no 4 is just plain wrong. you guys didn't shoot me because people suspect me. For 4 to happen Bum doesn't need to have been framed, all it takes is wbg being framed on day 2, and me actually being sane, that's the explanation I'd go with. But thanks, now you've just confirmed you're not using logic this game, you're scum. And why would I not defend a person who I have an innocent check on, it's only after I got the false check on wbg that I started doubting my sanity or the possibility of framers.
You're insane. If WBG were framed I would have gotten a different result on my check.
I've now run through this check I got back in as many different scenarios as I can imagine and they all tell me you are insane. Bum is scum
I am a parity cop. My day 1 check is a null tell. Every check after that comes back as "same" or "different" regarding that players alignment. I checked you on night 1 and got a null reading. I checked WBG last night and the result was "same". Meaning you are both the same alignment. If WBG was framed I would have gotten a "different" response on my check - in essence framing you. I can't come up with any other scenario that allows Bugs to flip blue and you get a guilty read on him. You're fucking nuts bro. Let's lynch Bum.
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On September 14 2011 01:49 sandroba wrote:
Okay I'm gonna wait for more claims before writing stuff. I'm curious as to what bum is gonna claim.
Jackal, do you believe that there are 2 cops in this 16 person game? Have you cconsider the possibility of palmar being GF/framed day1 and thus mafia? WTF? Why are you not jumping on palmar like a maniac?
Palmar could be GF. If he was I have no idea why he would have claimed DT today though. And yes 2 cops is not out of the question. My role requires multiple checks to work. And if the other one is insane that's just fucked up if he were the only one. In either case it requires both of us multiple days/checks to get information. So ya quite believable.
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On September 14 2011 02:20 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 02:12 sandroba wrote:
What do you say about my analysis of there being no roleblockers? Do you still think 2 cops is plausible?
Man this is a fucking 16 man game!!! No way there are 2 cops. Also palmar is making no sense and thus is scum. Since I find it hard to believe you would claim cop as scum AFTER Palmar just claimed cop, I'm going to tentatively believe your claim. Why did you check those guys and you never checked me though? I've been thouroughly discussed since night one. two gimp cops, the only medic in the game yet also roleblocks whoever he protects, so that works like a roleblocker anyway. you're crazy. @Jackal, why didn't you claim your result right away? You had information and we're in lylo.
Why do you think I asked you if you checked Bugs? I checked him as well. I didn't like your claim of him showing up red and flipping blue when I used you as a baseline for my checks.
On September 14 2011 02:12 sandroba wrote:
What do you say about my analysis of there being no roleblockers? Do you still think 2 cops is plausible?
Man this is a fucking 16 man game!!! No way there are 2 cops. Also palmar is making no sense and thus is scum. Since I find it hard to believe you would claim cop as scum AFTER Palmar just claimed cop, I'm going to tentatively believe your claim. Why did you check those guys and you never checked me though? I've been thouroughly discussed since night one.
Because I'm already positive you're scum. Bugs I wasn't sure of. I chose Palmar first because he's easy to contrast against.
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