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On September 14 2011 11:05 Jackal58 wrote: In a game this size with 2 cops it makes perfect sense to have a pgo. On the scum team. Except that no matter what team bumatlarge is on, if he's a pgo, palmar's lying because if he checked bum he'd be dead. | ||
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Also, the way that Palmar's claim came out just rubs me the wrong way. First he claimed "alignment cop" rather than just "cop". No other type of cop had been claimed or mentioned in the game so far, so why specify "alignment cop". Just "cop" would imply that just fine, especially if you started outing your guilty and inno results, it would be pretty clear. Now this could all be just a coincidence, but shortly after Jackal claims "parity cop". People have noted throughout the thread that Palmar and Jackal seem connected, and if they are both scum who planned out claims, it would make sense for Palmar to specify "alignment cop". Speculation, of course, but it fits in my mind. Secondly, the way he doesn't push his own guilty on bumatlarge. Instead he offers three possibilities despite the unlikeliness of them and just waits for other people... perhaps waiting for jackal's claim? ##vote Palmar | ||
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On September 15 2011 12:37 sandroba wrote: And Bum actually got lynched. That means mafia bought someone else's vote, not yours. Look at the lynch results. There's an Anonymous vote on bumatlarge. The mafia were unable to convince two townies to vote for bum so they needed to add an Anonymous vote to bring it to 6. If the mafia has the ability to add an Anonymous vote, it seems incredibly inbalanced that they can also buy a player's vote. Plus, in the past, when a vote is bought it seems to me that it just shows up in the vote count... the player whose vote is bought isn't then forced to actually post a vote for the wrong person... This all smells very very fishy to me. So if we assume the smurf is scum, one of the players on the bumatlarge voting list is town. If you believe the smurf's story, then the scum are the other four voting for bumatlarge. | ||
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On September 15 2011 22:18 Palmar wrote: what if jackal's speculation is right, and mafia only has one kp. and I got bussed with jackal, who thus visited bum and died, I however likely got randomly put to someone else and got a red check. yeah that's not how bus drivers work. also there's no driver and you're mafia | ||
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On September 15 2011 22:52 Palmar wrote: not helping, shut up. I'm just trying to figure this thing out. you do that. | ||
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##vote Palmar | ||
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On September 16 2011 14:11 GGQ wrote: At this point palmar is still 100% scum, but the lawyer on the loose, it is conceivable that jackal's claim is true and chaos used his lawyer ability on palmar on night one. I'm still leaning toward guilty on jackal, though. Either way, Palmar is our lynch for today because he couldn't have visited bumatlarge. ##vote Palmar And also because scum was like OMG MUST SAVE PALMAR yesterday. | ||
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On September 16 2011 16:24 sandroba wrote: If palmar is sk then mafia wins. We have to lynch mig I think. ##Vote Mig Wait what? How do you know there's a sk? | ||
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On September 16 2011 16:38 sandroba wrote: GGQ he might be sk. If we lynch the sk mafia wins by default. So safest bet is mig. I can't believe you are being this thick unintentionally. For everyone else, please note that mafia went balls out last day to save Palmar, with BayonetAnderson making a really flimsy ploy that basically outed himself as scum and scum also using an extra vote to save him. They wouldn't do this to save a sk. | ||
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On September 16 2011 16:48 GGQ wrote: Also, as of right now, I suspect that if anyone is a sk, it is sandroba who is trying to get a townie lynched to keep the balance of power more equal. Note that this would align with sandroba's attitude of not giving a fuck all game until mafia was close to winning. | ||
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- I never shot bayonette because I figured he only had one shot, obviously I was wrong. I also wasn't sure for a while whether he was scum; I had other scum targets picked (iirc my scum list was chaos13, mig, and bumatlarge, with palmar and sandroba as my next picks) and wasn't looking for more at the time - I shot wbg to push us closer to lylo because a town that has mislynches can lynch a sk, a town that's too close to lylo has to lynch mafia. I didn't realise that BA could shoot again and that mafia had a hidden vote, which made it more dangerous than I knew. - I had chaos13 as my surest scum read and was just keeping him aside to shoot when I needed a scum kill -I figured that jackal was the parity cop because of the lawyer flip, but my last couple days were all part of a grand plan that failed miserably. sandroba was pushing mig as the last scum and I was publicly suspecting jackal. For some reason based on some twisted convoluted logic that I can't quite follow anymore, I thought that shooting jackal would make mig think sandroba was the sk, so mig would doublevote sandroba and I would win. | ||
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On September 19 2011 10:21 Mig wrote: My scum play is definitely still terrible. 100x worse than my normal town. GGQ/Curu/Zona all played well Thanks for hosting Ace. And big thanks for taking the time to write out your thoughts all game. When did you know I was sk? Was there any chance you were going to lynch sandroba? | ||
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