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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 28 2011 23:24 GMT
#499
Smells like I'm back home on the farm.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 29 2011 10:16 GMT
#520
On August 29 2011 11:40 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 01:20 Sevryn wrote:
On August 28 2011 23:36 chaos13 wrote:
Maybe this is just a misunderstanding between us. For now I'm content with this

On August 28 2011 23:27 tnkted wrote:
BTW this is a stupid conversation and isn't finding us scum, we should change the topic


And just for the record, you aren't too high up on my lynch list. As for some discussion, what do you think the chances are of Jackal being the EA and why?

The F? Didn't you just make a giant post saying that tnkted is one of the scum? and then you say he isnt high up on your lynch list? what an excellent contradiction you have made there sir


JeeJee, sevryn, and Jackal are all higher.

My lynch order of choice would be JeeJee, Jackal, sevryn, tnkted.

Why Jackal? Can anyone tell me which role in the game would want to spend 3 hours looking for breadcrumbs?

The father role. I was killing time and drinking coffee waiting for a call from my son telling me he arrived at the motel they were spending the night at.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 29 2011 12:33 GMT
#522
On August 29 2011 20:40 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 13:06 tnkted wrote:
I don't think it makes sense for jackal to bus his teamate this early... Unless you're suggesting he's EA, which I suppose is possible. I think jeejee > sevryn is our best bet right now.


Yes, Jackal is EA. I'm sure of it.

Really? And what brings you to that conclusion? My belief that scum are more dangerous to us than the EA at this stage of the game? I suggest you look at the two people with the least amount of posts in this game. One of them is the EA.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 29 2011 13:23 GMT
#524
The only reason I did it was on a lark to kill time. If I was EA or scum I'd have the absolute minimum number of posts in this game. Like Eiii or Errandor. You're inventing scenarios.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 29 2011 14:10 GMT
#526
Hey what? Funny how shizzle like that happens. I'll just start randomly posting your name to see if you continue to magically appear.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 29 2011 16:30 GMT
#532
[image loading]


Why the hell wouldn't we talk now?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 29 2011 22:58 GMT
#545
On August 30 2011 07:10 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 02:39 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Psychologist visit Jackal.

If Jackal is the Psychologist, visit Chaos13.


I would suggest the Psychologist don't visit Jackal, precisely because he is the EA. I'm going to vote Jackal tomorrow and be pushing for his lynch, so what is the point in causing our psych to kill himself by visiting Jackal?

Show me your reasoning. And whoever the Psych is feel free to visit me. You'll be safe and sane in the morning. Stay away from Erandorr and Eiii though.
Eiii doesn't normally lurk. I have no idea who Erandorr is though or how he plays.
In 3, 2, 1........
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 29 2011 22:59 GMT
#546
On August 30 2011 07:56 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 07:29 Forumite wrote:
On August 30 2011 07:10 chaos13 wrote:
On August 30 2011 02:39 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Psychologist visit Jackal.

If Jackal is the Psychologist, visit Chaos13.


I would suggest the Psychologist don't visit Jackal, precisely because he is the EA. I'm going to vote Jackal tomorrow and be pushing for his lynch, so what is the point in causing our psych to kill himself by visiting Jackal?

Right...

##Visit Jackal58



Explain to me how our psych visiting him is good. It doesn't kill the EA, it doesn't remove him from the game, it doesn't take away his power, and we have no way of knowing for sure if the psych actually visited who everyone voted for. It gets us a dead townie. Instead, they should visit who they think was most likely targeted last night.

I'm not the EA ya nit.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 29 2011 23:36 GMT
#550
On August 30 2011 07:56 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 07:29 Forumite wrote:
On August 30 2011 07:10 chaos13 wrote:
On August 30 2011 02:39 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Psychologist visit Jackal.

If Jackal is the Psychologist, visit Chaos13.


I would suggest the Psychologist don't visit Jackal, precisely because he is the EA. I'm going to vote Jackal tomorrow and be pushing for his lynch, so what is the point in causing our psych to kill himself by visiting Jackal?

Right...

##Visit Jackal58



Explain to me how our psych visiting him is good. It doesn't kill the EA, it doesn't remove him from the game, it doesn't take away his power, and we have no way of knowing for sure if the psych actually visited who everyone voted for. It gets us a dead townie. Instead, they should visit who they think was most likely targeted last night.

Who did you visit last night Chaos?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 30 2011 16:33 GMT
#563
If I were EA Chaos The Ferryman would not have been sane. I considered him to be high on the list of probable Psychs. Were I EA he would have been my night one visit.
If I were scum Chaos you would be dead today and not the Ferryman. So unless you are either A) The EA or B) Scum please kindly start looking for realsies instead of insisting I am something I'm not.
Of course if you are either scum or EA please continue to tunnel me.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 30 2011 18:29 GMT
#568
On August 31 2011 03:19 tnkted wrote:
I'm not sold on a chaos lynch yet... he seems more like, dumb than someone posting scum objectives. Jackal clearly isn't EA or we'd have lost our psychologist.

Did we all abandon the wiggles lynch?

Unless you are either the EA or the Psychologist you cannot make that claim. No matter how true it is you possess no knowledge of who the Psychologist visited unless you are him. The other option is you are the EA.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 30 2011 18:33 GMT
#570
On August 31 2011 03:25 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 01:33 Jackal58 wrote:
If I were EA Chaos The Ferryman would not have been sane. I considered him to be high on the list of probable Psychs. Were I EA he would have been my night one visit.
If I were scum Chaos you would be dead today and not the Ferryman. So unless you are either A) The EA or B) Scum please kindly start looking for realsies instead of insisting I am something I'm not.
Of course if you are either scum or EA please continue to tunnel me.


This is total wifom here. It would be so easy for you to say this from an EA or mafia perspective, so it doesn't go any length to convincing me you're town. With that said, I seem to be the only one suspicious of you, so pursuing you will do no good for today.


Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 01:38 Cyber_Cheese wrote:

##Vote Chaos13


You're doing an excellent job of voting for me with no explanation and completely ignoring my request to pressure me if you think I'm suspicious. If you want to vote for me, don't leave the information where it's at. Ask me questions and see if my responses are still scummy. Point out the mafia/EA objectives I have been pushing this game. If at the end of the day I'm still your #1 suspect, so be it. Don't do a one-liner vote.

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 03:19 tnkted wrote:
I'm not sold on a chaos lynch yet... he seems more like, dumb than someone posting scum objectives. Jackal clearly isn't EA or we'd have lost our psychologist.

Did we all abandon the wiggles lynch?


Thanks :p

I'm doing my best here.



I'd like to find out from everyone why they think Jackal isn't the EA, because from my perspective he is the most likely candidate for it right now. Maybe some outside opinions will help me figure things out.



Your only reason for calling me the EA is because I spent Sunday morning looking for breadcrumbs. I spent Sunday morning looking for breadcrumbs because I was sitting next to my phone waiting for my kid to call me. Let it go man. There are several other peoples in this game that have shown more interest in the Psych and the EA than I have. We also have 2 people that hardly post at all. Look at them first.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 30 2011 21:13 GMT
#576
On August 31 2011 04:26 tnkted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 03:29 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 31 2011 03:19 tnkted wrote:
I'm not sold on a chaos lynch yet... he seems more like, dumb than someone posting scum objectives. Jackal clearly isn't EA or we'd have lost our psychologist.

Did we all abandon the wiggles lynch?

Unless you are either the EA or the Psychologist you cannot make that claim. No matter how true it is you possess no knowledge of who the Psychologist visited unless you are him. The other option is you are the EA.


I think I can make that claim assuming that the psychologist is following orders and visiting the person we voted for. We all voted for you, so we can assume that psych visited you and didn't die. That's what im basing that claim on.

Why, are you the EA?

Nope. EA is going to be Eiii or Erandorr.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 30 2011 23:21 GMT
#580
I have no idea if the Psych visited me or not. It wouldn't matter if he did unless I'm insane. I am not the EA. I cannot visit anybody at night. I cannot harm the Psych if he does visit me. I wish people would quit assuming that the Psych visited me. We have no idea if he did. We certainly don't want him claiming until the EA is dead. So please stop assuming I was visited. That kind of thinking is going to get us in a pickle.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 30 2011 23:22 GMT
#581
Apparently I have a trained Erandorr. I think I'll name him Pavlov.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 31 2011 00:05 GMT
#584
Chaos remember that mini game where in your mind I had to be mafia because I told town what to be aware of when scum tried to contact each other (Was a game the scum team didn't know each others identities) and how to look for it?
Ya you're doing it again dude.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 31 2011 00:38 GMT
#586
On August 31 2011 09:28 chaos13 wrote:


General consensus seems to be that I'm wasting time. So be it. Jackal is no longer a suspect. I'll start looking elsewhere.

Put forward your ideas. I still want to see them. This is right up there with people believing the Psych visited me. Complacency will kill us as surely as misplaced zeal. At least give me a synopsis of it. If this game comes down to lylo and we're still both in it and you're town and you believe me to be scum or 3rd party we're fucked.
Unless you're scum or the EA then stuff it.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 31 2011 13:04 GMT
#589
Wtf? Why did everybody shut up?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 31 2011 14:25 GMT
#594
Wtf does "Sevryn was prodded" mean?


And I'm just gonna spoiler this and answer below. Most of it addresses the same issue so my answer will cover most of it.
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 31 2011 22:36 chaos13 wrote:
Because they're waiting for my analysis of you. Sorry about the wait everyone, I was frustrated with this game last night and decided it would be best to clear my head and smarten up before attempting some analysis.

Let me preface this by saying I am no longer at all sure that Jackal is EA. There's evidence for it, but when the whole town starts questioning you there comes a point where you begin to wonder if you're sniffing down the wrong trail.


So here we go.

What needs to be determined first is what the goals of the EA will actually be. This is simple.
1) Visit the psychologist
2) Do some serious mafia hunting. You want town cred and you're not afraid of getting hit for being correct.

A lot of Jackal's posts are solid. He's really good at not giving anything away without making it obvious. I'll just go with the posts that stand out to me.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 08:10 Jackal58 wrote:
My apologies for my absence. It was a brutal day at work today. The fuckers broke everything.

I have only read this page and will get caught up shortly but I do have a question for the Ferryman.
You state rightly so that we are here to lynch scum. Yet you are obsessed with the EH. Why? I understand he's 3rd party. I understand he's anti town. I also understand that he won't kill anybody barring a chance encounter with the psych. Scum are most certainly going to begin killing us. Fuck the EH for now. We have bigger fish to fry.
Of course I might be all wrong as I have just read this page atm and if so I'll be more than happy to stfu after I get caught up. I'll post my thoughts in a bit. I also have to catch up on XLIX.


While this is a reasonable post, it has some strange motivations behind it. He would really like Ferryman to quit searching so hard for the EA, because apparently scum are more important. Let's see how that would work out. 3 scum, takes us 3 days to lynch. 3 kills by that point, 3 lynches, and possibility of psych dying due to EA.

That brings us down to

2 insane townies
3 sane townies
1 EA

Assuming we lynched mafia every day from day 1, this is a worst case scenario, with the EA visiting the psych and two townies who survived. This doesn't look too good to me.

Whereas if we lynch the EA, we skip a night phase and get 2 lynches in a row...looks good to me. Jackal isn't one to miss something like this. EA and mafia are equal priority, and his wanting to take out mafia over EA doesn't look too good.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 08:46 Jackal58 wrote:
If anybody ever accuses me of tunneling again I'm going to bitch slap them.
Ferryman we get it. You think Wiggles is the EH. You may very well be right. Guess what? Right now I don't care about the EH. But you sure as hell do. You are either the psych or scum. I know you have a very good grasp on how this game works. You are also on the opposite end of the brilliance spectrum from
Cyber_cheese. Put your efforts into something other than tunneling your EH suspect. Please.
I'm filtering all of you from most to least interesting so I'm going to be a while.


Again, he's pushing Ferryman away from hunting the EA. Something I would really like to point out is this

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 08:46 Jackal58 wrote:
You are either the psych or scum.


No possibility of him being the EA. What better cover would there be for an EA than hunting for their own role? Not for a moment does Jackal consider this possibility. In games I've played previously I've been about to hit submit and then realized I made a slip like this. I consider this to be a slip revealing that he's the EA.

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 20:58 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:37 Navillus wrote:
On August 28 2011 10:41 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 28 2011 10:06 Navillus wrote:
Also the writing is weird and looks forced, but... Jackal how on earth did you notice that???

Because the writing was forced and weird.


Ehhh, more specifics what made you look closely, what did you notice first, how did you see it?

I spent almost 3 hours looking at every post in this game for breadcrumbs.
I wasn't looking at anything of Jee Jee's in particular. I saw the U Mad first.
And then found the rest.
I found one other post that may contain a breadcrumb but I'm not positive it is.
At any rate I am not going to share that post, or user, or what he may be claiming. Y'all can go find it yourselves.


I've already gone over this stuff, but I'll mention it briefly again.

3 hours looking for breadcrumbs? Jackal's hunting the psych, which you'll remember is priority #1 of the EA.

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 01:33 Jackal58 wrote:
If I were EA Chaos The Ferryman would not have been sane. I considered him to be high on the list of probable Psychs. Were I EA he would have been my night one visit.
If I were scum Chaos you would be dead today and not the Ferryman. So unless you are either A) The EA or B) Scum please kindly start looking for realsies instead of insisting I am something I'm not.
Of course if you are either scum or EA please continue to tunnel me.


And then this.

Sorry for wasting so much time yesterday. Let the discussion begin.



On the Ferryman I simply wanted him to stop tunneling. At the point I made that first post you quoted we were all well aware of what he thought of Wiggles and adding more of the same just gave us all another 20 paragraphs on "NO U" to read. That's it. No ulterior motivation.
And yes he came across to me as either Psych or scum. Not the EA.
And if I truly was the EA Ferryman would not have been sane when scum hit him. I would have visited him. The EA isn't posting in this game. It's either Eiii or Erandorr. One is scum the other is 3rd party.
And I really was killing time when I went through all the posts in this game looking for breadcrumbs. No ulterior motive there either.

And wtf does "Sevryn was prodded" mean?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 31 2011 14:27 GMT
#596
On August 31 2011 23:25 tnkted wrote:
Player List
1. Mr. Wiggles
2. Cyber_Cheese
3. Sevryn
4. TheFerryman
5. chaos13
6. Palmar
7. Navillus
8. Eiii
9. JeeJee
10. Jackal58
11. Forumite
12. Erandorr
13. tnkted


These are my reads. So, before we start getting off track here, ##vote: sevryn like we should have been doing earlier.

I'm getting red vibe off forumite. If you read his post history it's all soft FoS's that he doesn't really follow through on.

I don't think chaos13 is scum, I just think he doesn't read very closely and gets too excited about his 'scumtells' that don't actually mean anything.

That being said, Chaos, you aren't reacting properly to pressure at all. I think you're town, but if you keep acting batshit insane whenever people don't agree with you, I'm changing my vote to follow wiggles.

EVERY VOTE SEVRYN NAO


Is Sevryn still alive? Is Sevryn blue? Wtf does PRODDED mean????????
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