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On September 05 2011 07:20 Ace wrote: so I'm scum because I pointed out the inconsistencies in redFF's claims? Another fucking moron. iGrok can we skip all the bullshit and use my role now? I don't feel like waiting. First of all, what does a town player have to gain from this post? All it's doing is revealing to the mafia that they have a blue role. In a setup where we aren't informed of all the roles, nor are we informed of how all the roles work, this is, simply put, a bad idea. Second, is iGrok going to respond to something like this in the thread? No, of course not, because that would be mod-confirming that Ace does in fact have a blue role. No decent host will do this. Third, if it is a role that is used in real time when the player chooses, as implied by Ace's post here, do you think it will be used in the thread? Sure, if it's something like a dayvig that has to type ##Shoot: Player, but Ace didn't type that, meaning it's not that sort of role. Instead, it will be performed via PM. What would a town player do in this scenario? They see they're a target of suspicion, so (assuming Ace is trying to pass as daykiller here) they would PM iGrok with their action, wait for the results, and then claim their action. So long as no counter claims come up, they're basically confirmed town. | ||
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On September 05 2011 08:59 bumatlarge wrote: I am a Astute Lawyer. I can see how many votes were casted for an individual in the previous lynch. I checked sinani's list and saw 4 votes casted. That's why I think sandroba's claims are bullshit about being roleblocked, since there was a obviously a pious man on sinani's list. The only player alive on that list is jcarl, and by his actions where he was very suspicious of sandroba, I'm thinking he has to be the pious man. Sorry to betray you jcarl, but hopefully you survive the night and vote sandroba, because I guarantee you that you are right about his RB claim being fake. Why don't I believe you? 1. Your role PM format doesn't match mine. 2. You outlined a power role in green font. 3. It's not even close to matching the theme of the game. 4. It came way too late to make sense. We've already got people voting for you, so until/unless Daywalker uses their shot, I'll start voting for Ace so we can take out all the scum today. ##Vote Ace | ||
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holy shit. I see nothing in the OP that answers my question. | ||
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No players are told how a character is returned to life. Maybe it's a host slip and I'm seeing just seeing conspiracies, but the PM you describe gives away how you were returned to life. | ||
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Yeah I saw that. It doesn't state whether or not they count towards mafia numbers. This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing. You know who you are. Now try reading this. | ||
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On September 05 2011 10:01 jcarlsoniv wrote: iGrok, I read through the OP again, and I don't think I saw the answer to this. I know zombies count towards mafia kp. But what if all of the original mafia die and just the zombie is left? Assuming Drazerk was town before his death, he would still be town while being a zombie. So there would be no mafia left? Even though the mafia kp would still technically be 1? This is exactly my question. | ||
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On September 05 2011 10:09 jcarlsoniv wrote: I don't find bum's claim as ridiculous as you do. I don't necessarily believe his claim, but I have had a sneaking suspicion that I am the pious since the first night. This makes it very difficult for me to decide which one of you to believe. Your arguments against his claim ARE very weak. "Coloring his role green instead of blue, and using the word "are" instead of "is". Then compromise and vote Ace. We need him gone today too. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=257019¤tpage=32#635 | ||
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 For everyone's reference, here is a complete list of voting the past few days, including today's votes so far. I know it isn't complete because some votes aren't formatted properly, as I just searched for ##. Some of you need to learn how to unvote, and others need to learn to put two ##'s. Day 1 I'm going off memory that sandroba voted for bum, since it didn't come up in my search. + Show Spoiler + Day 1 Voting Palmar (0) - chaos13 #2 - redFF #3 Varpulis (3) - redFF #5 - Palmar #6 - Kenpachi #7 - bumatlarge #22 - chaos13 #23 sinani206 (3) - jcarlsoniv #8 - Drazerk #12 - Varpulis #19 Kenpachi (1) - OriginalName #11 redFF (1) - Ace #27 bumatlarge (3[-1rb]) - Palmar #13 - sinani206 #16 - sandroba #?? CLAIMED ROLEBLOCK jcarlsoniv (1) - Sknowman #14 chaos13 (1) - Jackal58 #15 Ace (0) OriginalName (0) Day 2 Voting OriginalName (4) - bumatlarge #6 - redFF #11 - wherebugsgo #12 - jcarlsoniv #18 - chaos13 #19 - redFF #20 - Kenpachi #21 bumatlarge (3 [-1rb]) - sandroba #2 CLAIMED ROLEBLOCK - redFF #4 - Palmar #9 - wherebugsgo #15 redFF (3) - Ace #5 - OriginalName #13 - bumatlarge #16 wherebugsgo (0) - redFF #8 - Kenpachi #9 chaos13 (0) Day 3 Voting bumatlarge (4) - wherebugsgo #1 - sinani206 #2 - sandroba #4 - Jackal58 #7 sandroba (2) - Ace #3 - bumatlarge #6 Ace (3) - chaos13 #5 - jcarlsoniv #8 - Drazerk This makes it a little easier to see how the voting patterns of a certain few players match up. Those players would be bumatlarge, Ace, OriginalName, and jcarlsoniv. | ||
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On September 05 2011 10:09 jcarlsoniv wrote: I don't find bum's claim as ridiculous as you do. I don't necessarily believe his claim, but I have had a sneaking suspicion that I am the pious since the first night. This makes it very difficult for me to decide which one of you to believe. Your arguments against his claim ARE very weak. "Coloring his role green instead of blue, and using the word "are" instead of "is". As you can see from my vote count above this, there is no way to tell who the pious is, assuming sandroba's being roleblocked is a truthful claim (I see no reason to disbelieve it as of yet). | ||
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I also don't think mafia will zombify ON. There would be no point to it. He would be lynched immediately so all they've done is made us waste a lynch. They don't actually gain KP from it in the end. Instead they're more likely to revive a town player that was lynched or killed. Why wouldn't they? It turns town against town, essentially, forcing us to use a lynch against our own members. | ||
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But then again I could just be stringing up some wild theories. | ||
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On September 06 2011 04:22 wherebugsgo wrote: Wtf why would mafia not res ON? That's 1 KP, mafia plus zombie= 1 KP. Because ON is scum. Why make us lynch a scum twice when they can resurrect one of the townies they killed and make us lynch town? On September 06 2011 11:25 jcarlsoniv wrote: I have an idea. It may already be too late, but it's worth doing probably. @Jackal, to make sure sandroba doesn't get RBd again, you could protect him. Inhibitor (RB) is dead according to sinani. If Jackal goes for Sandroba, it shouldn't be for this reason. In fact, he shouldn't go for sandroba at all, because that way scum will know exactly who he's going for. Or maybe he should go for sandroba because scum now think he won't go for him. Or maybe Jackal is mafia. chaos13's To Do List 1. Lynch Ace 2. Lynch bumatlarge 3. Survive the night 4. Lynch jcarlsoniv, Kenpachi, and Jackal if the game isn't over. Last remaining scum are in those five names. | ||
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On September 06 2011 11:44 GMarshal wrote: /waves. As a spectator I kindly request we cut the flaming. ^_^ Pretty much this. Everyone arguing with Ace can shut up now cause you've successfully gone nowhere after about five pages. Until you or he brings some new information or ideas to the discussion all you're doing is wasting time. | ||
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Like this one: On September 06 2011 23:43 Jackal58 wrote: As I also stated before I do not block town aligned actions. A town roleblocker that doesn't block town actions seems rather imba to me. Almost as if a mafia is fake claiming. They can make sure that their team doesn't hit the claimed target, but this is a perfect reason for when a HP or some other role visits their claimed one and it goes through anyway. On September 07 2011 02:26 sandroba wrote: Okay iGrok just edited and added "unless otherwise specified". I'm fine with lynching ace today as long as we make sure jackal gets lynched tomorrow if the game does not end. Maybe ace is just being stuborn about his redFF + sinani scum team. A question that no one has asked yet is why mafia used their minion shot on jackal. One possible explanation is that bum was minion so they had to use it on day1, so they couldn't take the risk of bum getting lynched and wasting their shot. But then why shoot jackal when their kills were sknowman/drazerk/jackal? Seriously who is less likely to be blue amongst those 3? Certainly not jackal. The explanation that makes the most sense would shoot the necro thus making 2 necros by today when jackal revived, in adition to creating confusion. TL;DR jackal is likely scum instead of ace. Instead of? No. With Ace? Probably. I hinted at this exact line of thought earlier, but wasn't going to bring it up until tomorrow to avoid the mayhem that's been brought up right now. Votes need to stay on bum and Ace right now imo, we can worry about jcarl, Kenpachi, and Jackal tomorrow. | ||
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