TL Mafia XLIV

On August 19 2011 08:58 Palmar wrote:
Hands off my kurumi bitches.

On August 19 2011 23:39 Sevryn wrote:
Right now DB is looking the scummiest imo and after what palmar did in Swedish house mafia I am inclined to trust him. That said if there is a good case against anyone else i would be willing to give DropBear another lookskie
## vote DropBear

On August 20 2011 06:52 BrownBear wrote:


I asked for something of substance and this is what I got?

Oh, you.

Ok, something you've pulled out of my reasoning that really just wasn't there. You're saying I want to lynch someone inactive. Not necessarily true. Implied, maybe, but NOT what I said. Again, you really need to stop putting words in people's mouths.

What I said there, and what anyone who took 5 seconds to think rationally got out of that sentence before you started spewing shit all over it, is that regardless of what I think about DropBear's alignment (and for the record, I think he's more green than not. Scummy, possibly, but not confirmed scum), I want to see people post more. We're on only 17 pages halfway through the first day, which is kind of sad. I want more content. DropBear's providing it.

I'm for lynching any of the semi-actives - that is, the people who are just contributing one liners and sheeping along to do the bare minimum to fly under the radar. Inactives = people who haven't noticed the game's started yet, people in different time zones who are sleeping, or people who don't care about the game. No reason wasting a vote on them - modkills will get them soon enough. The real area where mafia are probably lurking are the semi-actives - the guys who have posted a few times to be able to say "hey, I was here", but haven't contributed anything of substance or worth to the discussion.

That doesn't include DropBear right now. At the very least, he's provoking discussion both about his silly fake-mayor plan, and about whether or not he's red. He's defending himself and providing some alternate ideas. (Although, DropBear, "I will do so if it becomes necessary"? Really? That's not doing you any favors, bro). Right now, my list of semi-actives include: wherebugsgo, hiro protagonist, Foolishness, and JeeJee (when you read his posts, they don't contribute nearly as much as they do ask questions that go unanswered). I'm open to adding more to that list tho.

So let's start talking about those guys! JeeJee is the most suspicious to me right now: He's posted the most, but I see not all that much in his posts... it looks to me as though he's trying to post while not adding anything of value to town discussion. Just a gut feeling, but I still feel a lot better about lynching him than I do DropBear.

Anyway, long story short: You read things out of my post that didn't exist, those things are the entire basis of your case against me, your case against me sucks, gg, try harder.

##Vote: JeeJee

On August 20 2011 08:41 supersoft wrote:


hmm, sevryns behavior had something innocent in my eyes i don't know... Somehow I tend to buy that story...
I mean the whole thing started like that: Basic situation:
He knew Palmar from former games; and we all know that palmar played some good games for town recently - Palmar accuses DB; I jump on that wagon but declare it as a pressurevote. Varp shows up, says pressurevotes only work if you don't say it's a pressurevote (i 75% agree with that statement)
Now the poor sevryn sees all this: he also wants to contribute something by pressurevoting, so he fakes his reason and follows varps advice and gets caught immediately...
However that doesn't mean he's town.

On August 20 2011 10:15 Varpulis wrote:
k guys i see a problem here: Everybody defending anybody is instantly scum, because the guy you're accusing is obviously scum, and anybody who doesn't agree with you is scum.

This is a bad assumption. Townies can be wrong, townies can disagree. The key is to see how the guy is defending him. Is he being wishy washy? is his post overly safe? Are there obvious logical fallacies?

with that said, supersoft's summary post accomplishes nothing and is pretty damn wishy washy. "I see innocence... however that doesn't mean he's town"

does not compute.

On August 19 2011 18:14 supersoft wrote:


i just filtered him, and he just posted one policypost and no thoughts about other people.
Why not pressuring him a bit. Can't be bad.

##Vote DropBear

and before anyone jumps on me like:
"wtf he bandwagoned blablabla" - like Curu did in AA; I am NOT one of the players, that bandwagons on anyone random with a bad explanation only to show up the next day like "hey guise sorry what happened, oh you lynched scum - yea well I had stuff to do." I will be there at the end of the day and put my vote on scum.

On August 20 2011 11:37 Foolishness wrote:
He voted without bringing anything new to the table. That's his only post he's made this game that's been longer than 2 lines. His post says "lol he's scum vote", that wall of text you see there is gibberish.

And the other games I've played with Mig he's been town, and I definitely don't ever remember him ever making a post with this kind of attitude.

On August 21 2011 03:24 xtfftc wrote:
By the way, I have to apologise to supersoft - I just noticed that I didn't post in the voting thread, which was probably the reason he put me on his list (although it's still kind of sloppy).

So I'm going to vote after Sevryn defends himself. Palmar, DropBear and BrownBear are a story that has to develop further.

On August 21 2011 03:39 QuickSilver7 wrote:
I like the case against BB, it basically contains all my reasons for FOSing him. Also this sevryn lynch is retarded, I'd love if people would read some rea analysis done on actually scummy people. Right now it seems like Sevryn is being lynched for two stupid posts he made in the beginning of the game. These two posts do not make him scum and when I filtered his posts I found that I liked much of the rest of his history. Also I feel like a lot of people are voting sevryn just to kill someone. I'll say it now, a no lynch is better than lynching a townie. If you're not actually sure sevryn is scum then don't vote him (which, from reading the reasons that have been given for voting him, I don't think everyone who's on the wagon is convinced).

People should seriously read over the cases against xtfftc and BB again. Both of those are way scummier than sevryn is.

(sorry this post isn't up to my usual standards hiro, I just wanna put the breaks on this runaway bus before I leave today )

On August 21 2011 03:07 BrownBear wrote:


This is a complete turnaround from your earlier opinion on Sevryn: after all, you're the one who started the bandwagon against him.

Care to explain? I'm getting very sick of all your one-liner aggressive posts - you aren't contributing nearly as much as you think you are.

On August 21 2011 03:49 xtfftc wrote:

I expected supersoft to be superhappy about this but noone else. Sevryn is basically dead, one way or another. No mafia will be dumb enough to protect him anymore and the townies are aware that going after anyone else now would look suspicious. But in case Sevryn gets modkilled, we need to use the opportunity for two town kills.