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On August 18 2011 08:36 GMarshal wrote: Foolishness is being indecisive, he must be scum! You're calling out Foolishness. You must be scum. | ||
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On August 18 2011 09:17 chaoser wrote: what a chainsaw defense jackal. scum Tunnels chaoser all of day 1 and 2. | ||
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On August 19 2011 05:10 Curu wrote: Cool, but what I actually asked was what do you think of the chances of Foolishness (he's actually in this game) as being the Town Vet? Non existent. | ||
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On August 19 2011 05:27 Curu wrote: So, what thought process goes on in your head when you decide to claim Vanilla Townie with your first post? He's obviously a Kenpachi disciple. | ||
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On August 19 2011 06:01 Kurumi wrote: Let's play a game. You win, I don't, You lose, I do. You are in a room. It has thick, cold and bare walls. One of them is made of unbreakable glass. There is a sandvich and bonk! energy drink behind it. You are very thirsty and very hungry. You have a crowbar, flamethrower and 30 pieces of shuriken. What do You do to get the food? Put a dollar in the machine and push the right buttons. | ||
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On August 19 2011 06:10 chaoser wrote: sup jackal, long time no see ^_^ What do you think about Lucidity and Curu? Just trying to get conversation started or something more sinister? Curu trying to start a convo on a Day post hiccup that GMarshall wasn't going to let go on. No biggy there I don't think. Lucidity is obviously a student of Kenpachi. | ||
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On August 19 2011 07:45 Curu wrote: Being careful not to talk too much is the mark of someone who has guilt on their mind. Townies have nothing to hide and so should never be afraid to talk as long as it isn't stupid useless stuff spamming up the thread. It's also a sign of intimidation and uncertainty on how to proceed. The best way to keep noobs engaged is to ask them questions. Let them know that we value their opinion and nobody is going to jump on them for being a noob. | ||
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On August 19 2011 08:12 xtfftc wrote: I agree, of course. If the whole population takes part in the democracy process, the people become too powerful to be messed with. But it often takes just one ordinary citizen to show signs of cowardice - and suddenly we see a snowball effect affecting the whole town. This is a fucking game. You don't die for real. | ||
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On August 20 2011 01:43 Palmar wrote: how about you vote the crazy australian with a cricket bat instead? I think it was the crazy Icelander with a snow shovel. | ||
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On August 20 2011 01:53 supersoft wrote: hey, do you buy nards story, that he's "damaged" from a former game and therefor not suspecting anyone? No. Looked like a joke to me. | ||
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On August 20 2011 18:05 Barundar wrote: Palmar, what exactly make you go from DB is scum to Brown Bear is scum? Seems like someone just disagreed with you and you decided to give up your case for another player to argue with. Combined it doesn't make your cases believable. Anybody that disagrees with Palmar is scum. And I'm really hoping your advice to not do PBP was a joke. | ||
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On August 20 2011 23:38 chaos13 wrote: We're gonna derp ourselves into a useless no-lynch today if this keeps up. This thread is a mess. I'm not sure on who thinks what of who any more because things are so muddled up with accusations everywhere and a complete lack of clarity in communication. Again, who started this? Palmar. Let's take a brief look at the sevryn bandwagon. Did it build up quickly? Has there been any noticeable defense that appears flimsy or false or nervous? I don't think he's scum. Jackal, who do you think is mafia and why? Palmar. He's playing his "I'm so town it hurts" persona he had in PTP2. | ||
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I have reread all of Sevryns posts and I don't see anything as being particularly scummy in them. What I don't like is his disappearance when the heat began to be turned up on him. I still think Palmar is scum but I'm pretty sure I can't convince anybody of that atm so I'm going to vote for the guy he give .2% chance of being scum. | ||
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On August 21 2011 05:34 Foolishness wrote: Man this is a touch choice Which choice is that? I'm unvoting Sevryn. As I previously stated he has not set off any bells with what he had posted but by his disappearance. How much time is remaining? | ||
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On August 15 2011 04:58 RayzorFlash wrote: /in ... My first Mafia game, but I've been doing the research and it seems fun :D Somebody is being coached. + Show Spoiler + On August 19 2011 09:44 RayzorFlash wrote: It does seem highly strange and suspicious that in a game full of lurkers, he's gone above and beyond to draw attention to himself... On August 19 2011 09:56 RayzorFlash wrote: It would be very easy for scum to abide by the "three post a day" criteria if they wanted to... I just don't think it would be that effective, because just based on the sheer number of new people, and the ratio of scum-to-townie, there are inevitably going to be a lot of townies in the lurker list, and wasting town KPs on them would only make it easier for the scum... On August 19 2011 13:42 RayzorFlash wrote: I said in my previous post how having us waste KPs on lurkers would further scum agenda, and thats why I think the actions seem suspicious, especially considering that we know there are a lot of new players here, and scum do too. New players generally have more a tendency to lurk, or become inactive, and thus, if we put together a lurker list, there WILL be a fairly large amount of people on it. This is especially true if they're townies or blues, as if they're mafia they will try their hardest to stay OFF that list... I think its NOT a good idea to just declare that everyone start killing off lurkers, unless there is actually a REASON to kill them, not just because they're lurking. Its a double-edged sword for sure, it does make the cultists come out and have to participate, which might reveal them, but it also runs the risk of killing a lot of townies... If we want to put together a lurker list, by all means do it, I just hope we exercise a little bit of restraint and use the kills given good reasons, since we don't want to make this EASIER for the mafia On August 20 2011 01:40 RayzorFlash wrote: Your post seemed like obvious scum to me, the scummiest post so far, and I will most likely be away for the rest of the day so I put in a vote against you... I'll check back later and see if I have to change it, but I doubt if I will :p On August 20 2011 13:32 RayzorFlash wrote: I'm sticking with my vote on Sevryn unless something ridiculously obvious jumps out in the next 24 hours... I think by far that he has had the scummiest behaviour, both in terms of the vote, and then the defensive roll-back after he was called out on it... I'm hesitant on Palmar just because he's been creating a far from ideal first Day in here... He contributed the main talking point sure, but his argument for that talking point was very weak... However, Dropbear has definitely acted a bit suspicious and got overly defensive, and the mayor idea seems scummy because he recommended himself for it right off the bat... Those 3 seem like the major suspects this first day... I think (at least) ONE of Palmar or DropBear is definitely a scum, and if we start nearing a majority on either of them I will switch my vote from Sevryn and get him at a later date... I am most definitely voting for one of those 3 though On August 21 2011 04:55 RayzorFlash wrote: Supersoft, you seem to be trying wayyyy too hard to get Sevryn not lynched... Since the start you've tried putting up 3-4 different reasons to direct the vote away from Sevryn, first with a weak defense, then when called out on the defense being wishywashy, you quickly backtracked on it and said that you were just pointing out how anyone could have done that, and immediately started pressuring Xtfftc. While Xtfftc has definitely acted suspiciously, I see it as more suspicious that you (and Palmar, to a degree) were the two who along with Sevryn caused the pressure-vote issue at the start of the game anyway, and that you (and Palmar, to a degree  ) are working so hard to get attention away from Sevryn and on to other people.At this point, I would expect scum to just leave Sev to defend himself since they wouldnt want to get caught defending him, and try to either set-up a subsequent lynch away from them, or try to redirect attention away from him entirely. Town right now loses NOTHING by lynching Sev. If he flips red, we immediately know who to go after next, i.e. the people defending him, or the people trying to get someone else lynched first. If he flips green, we can target the ones who have most aggressively tried to get him lynched. Its a win-win situation. | ||
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On August 21 2011 06:59 Palmar wrote: i'd be totally down with lynching RayzorFlash You're totally down with lynching everybody. | ||
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On August 21 2011 07:15 Pyo wrote: I'm confused. What do you mean by this? What exactly has changed that would warrant you changing your vote? The only thing I can see is that he's received the critical mass to actually have a lynch so he'll get lynched even if you change your vote. Are you trying to cover your tracks for if/when he flips green? I don't believe him to be scum. | ||
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On August 21 2011 09:15 supersoft wrote: 100% agree. We have jackal voting for Rayzor so far? I suspected nard before, but rayzor basically posts the same things. @GM, sorry for the douche commentary, I just wanted to wake him up somehow... You want me to kill somebody I believe to be town instead of voting for somebody that obviously appears to be getting coached. Somebody I think is scum? There is a scum wagon on Sevryn. I'm not joining it. | ||
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What do you get out of this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174&user=120202 | ||
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On August 21 2011 17:07 Barundar wrote: The sevryn wagon was way too easy, and I hope some of the loud townies who refused to listen yesterday re-read the thread and reevaluate their suspects in the light of them being wrong. At least the chaos before lynch put some people into the spotlight, in a way I don't think mafia would have done. Jackal looks suspicious, he voted for ray, but completely ignored the case during the chaos when everyone else joined it. He then apologized to sevryn upon lynch, so he was clearly present. Looks like guilt, and that he is holding back, signs he got something to hide. Both foolishness and mig looks suspicious to me at this point. Foolishness is playing way off his standard trolling day 1, and I don't know what he was doing on a wagon he had a blue read on. Mig has been pushing for chaoser, but at least he is doing something now. Regarding chaoser, he has had some great games as town, but his last game as town was PYP3, and he had a pretty bad showing there. Careful with pure meta. I was playing cards with my wife. I logged in right before I went to bed. Sorry I missed the stampede. I have nothing to hide. | ||
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On August 22 2011 02:06 Palmar wrote: Just do me a favor and kill me tonight mafia types. I'm playing terribly, I let town lynch a townie which means I'm fucking terrible at this game, I'll be asking for a replacement. Wtf is this? | ||
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On August 22 2011 11:03 Foolishness wrote: I was roleblocked last night. I also took a hit last night. I'm not sure I'm buying what you're selling. Chaplain (Veteran) - as a consecrated priest and spiritual minister you are especially well equipped to handle the attacks of the unholy cultists, your time as a chaplain in the Liquidian militia doesn’t hurt a bit either . You have an extra night life which can absorb a single KP. You will be notified if it is expended, a roleblock divests you of your extra life. | ||
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On August 22 2011 11:14 Foolishness wrote: I know...you could not believe how much my eyes widen when I got notified. Are you claiming Chaplain? (Vet) | ||
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Neither Foolishness nor Palmar give me a warm fuzzy feeling atm but looking at how Mig and Vain hammered home the lynch on Sevryn without so much as a howdy do I am pretty certain one of them is scum if not both. | ||
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I'm still looking at him. I'm willing to admit my original statement may have contained an element of omgus. But he is lurking. | ||
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On August 23 2011 00:56 Palmar wrote: Foolishness made some correct observations on day 1. In addition he claimed a shot in a way I don't think Scumishness would've done. However, the medic who saved him should absolutely claim at some point, I've not concluded how and when is the best point to claim. I think claiming before this night would be stupid. Perhaps just as this night ends in case he gets shot? I don't know. As for Navillus. I'd like you to figure out the answer by yourself. Go back and read the difference in tone how BrownBear was pushing his ideas and how Navillus was pushing his. Everything about Navillus screams enthusiastic townie at me. Filter out each's posts and look at the very, very notable difference in attitude. I actually think Navillus is one of the less likely players in the game to be mafia at the moment. I want to hear more from Mig. It really bothers me that Jackal is trying to somehow link my alignment to his flip, something he knows very well is ridiculously stupid to do as town, because townies have been wrong before, however it makes perfect sense as scum. Care to explain this link Jackal? You want Mig dead. What's hard about that? | ||
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On August 23 2011 01:11 Palmar wrote: Yes I think Mig is scum. let's entertain the thought that he flips town, does that make me scum? If he were to flip town my opinion of you wouldn't change. That opinion is currently you being a person of intense interest. Same as Foolishness. | ||
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On August 23 2011 03:30 xtfftc wrote: He is saying that if we agree on one single target for a vigilante, mafia would know who to protect. Are you verifying this? On August 23 2011 02:58 Vain wrote: If you wanna direct vigi's at least come up with more targets. I wouldn't be surprised if there actually was a scum medic. Can you write out what information we get then? In my opinion that only creates more wifom | ||
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On August 23 2011 04:52 VisceraEyes wrote: hiro, he actually backpedaled on Palmar. Why are you defending Palmar against someone who didn't really find him all that suspicious? Where did Hiro defend Palmar? | ||
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On August 23 2011 05:33 xtfftc wrote: Horrible BBCode tags, might be useful to have a look at QuickSilver's post here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174¤tpage=19#377 Some context on the whole discussion would benefit your decision making greatly. So. Our dead Vig thought you were scum. Don't go to law school. | ||
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Why did you slam a vote onto Sevryn when it was obvious there was a very good possibility the vote may have been shifted off of a person that appeared to be a townie getting mislynched? | ||
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On August 23 2011 06:19 Palmar wrote: purely out of respect for mig's normal awesome townplay I'm fine with lynching him. On August 21 2011 07:03 Jackal58 wrote: You're totally down with lynching everybody.  | ||
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On August 23 2011 06:22 Foolishness wrote: Don't forget that Mig did this as well. Let's say Rayzor is mafia. Does it make sense for one of Mig or Vain to be mafia? Yes because their votes ensured that the vote switch wouldn't happen. Does it make sense for both of them to be mafia? No because mafia wouldn't out two of their members just like that. You obviously know who I think is mafia. Vain's posting may not be the most optimal, but he writes stuff like this: That's totally a townie talking there. Not afraid to voice his opinion or yell at someone. I'm not totally sold that he's townie, it's just Mig looks a lot better for lynching now. Not to mention if Vain flips green we'll be back at square one. If Mig flips green we can look at who jumped on his case after Chaoser's initial vote today. Well aware of that. That's why I asked Vain to explain. Most scum would have ignored the question. My vote has been on Mig all day and shall remain there unless he shows up with the heads of all the scum team on a platter. In the mean time I'm enjoying the bugs flitting about the porch light. | ||
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On August 23 2011 09:19 Mig wrote: Jackal - gives no reason whatsoever for voting me Sure I did. It was a coin flip between you and Vain. It was your late vote on Sevryn to hammer home a lynch when it was almost shifted to Rayzor. Explain please. | ||
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I have some thinking to do. | ||
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If it's any consolation I think you're all scummy. | ||
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On August 23 2011 11:37 Curu wrote: I really don't like this post by Jackal: Coinflip sure, but why Mig? If Town he is undoubtedly the stronger player than Vain. Mig had actually tried to start something about chaoser earlier, whereas Vain jumped in with an absolutely nonsensical post that was complete flip-floppery over Sevyrn/Rayzor yet conveniently landed his vote on Sevyrn and disappeared. He has also shown no interest or contributing or scumhunting, only in defending himself. Vain for sure looked worse than Mig and Mig is for sure the more dangerous player against Mafia. Yet you chose to put your votes on Mig when there was a wagon building up on him from Foolishness/chaoser rather than pursuing Vain. Can you explain this more? Who the hell scares you more as scum? Mig? Or Vain? I had issues with both. I asked the same question of both. I'm still undecided on both. DB vs SS Lynch SS. If he is not what DB presents him as we lynch DB. It's a 1 for 1 trade. Scum don't like 1 for 1 trades.I don't know why there is any issue with this. Inspite of Barundars best Ace impersonation lynching the DT first is stupid. Errandorr - Flavor text is the storyline in your role PM. Instead of - You are townie, you get a story. | ||
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On August 23 2011 22:24 Erandorr wrote: So this comes at a convinient time by the way The attention just got drawn from everyone supsected except DB and we focus on someone whom I thought of as a townie. Did anyone think of supersoft as being anything but Town? Supersoft was on my questionable character list. And no I'm not sharing. | ||
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On August 23 2011 22:35 supersoft wrote: But I still want to see his flavortext. I want to see it asap because I don't want GM to write it for him. I'll support this. Post it up DB. It's not like you're not already fucked if you really are a DT. And Curu we have different fears I suppose. | ||
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On August 24 2011 00:11 Mig wrote: It says he is in the werewolves op. I meant no he wasn't in this game. I was ninja'd. Well actually I'm just slow. | ||
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Thank you DB for singlehandedly destroying any progress we have made today. That being said we do have an opportunity to 100% confirm Foolishness. Lynch DB. If he is a medic Foolishness is 100% guaranteed town. If there is a second medic in the game he parks his ass on him. Of course if DB is a lying piece of shit and flips red odds are better than 95% that Foolishness is scum as well. Now before you all come screaming "SCUM" at me for proposing we lynch our medic ask yourselves how sure you are he's telling the truth and then ask yourselves how great it would be to have a 100% confirmed townie in Foolishness. I'm just throwing this out for consideration and debate. Another option we have right now is we can all vote for Munk-E, Nard or Pyo. We all talk a good game about lynching lurkers but it never happens. I admit to not being the worlds greatest scum hunter but right now the people who are being mentioned don't seem like our best options atm. | ||
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On August 24 2011 03:37 Curu wrote: Actually this makes more sense to me the more I think about. If he was Mafia, he has an excuse for not being touched by Mafia because he led a mislynch and is under fire, he can get through 2-3 more people, claiming guilty on each one, then at the end claim he is actually paranoid and skate the rest of the way. Keep this in mind if another Medic flips or claims. In a 30 player game I would not be surprised if there are 2 medics. | ||
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On August 24 2011 03:44 Foolishness wrote: Well RayzorFlash is certainly mafia so I'll totally back DB up here. You were uncertain before. Why the change of heart? | ||
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On August 24 2011 08:41 Palmar wrote: By the way, chaos13 is on his way to basically abstaining his vote for the second day in a row. i we can muster enough votes, I'd love a last minute switch to him. ##Unvote Mig ##Vote chaos13 He's at work. Give him an hour. | ||
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On August 24 2011 08:53 Kurumi wrote: Deflecting lynch on a lurker , such common tactic. Used by scum , of course . Use you hammer or marshmallow gun or whatever it is on him if you're so confident. Otherwise go play with your dog until you can add something please. | ||
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On August 24 2011 08:57 wherebugsgo wrote: This is such terrible logic lol He called me scummy -_- (and asked DB his opinion of me lol...which DB never answered AFAIK) Also, I agree with Kurumi. Anyone notice that hiro has been "down to lynch" someone very easily all the time in this game? He first did this yesterday, and he's doing it again today. You're not me. You didn't destroy two consecutive towns he was in so bad that 6 months later he still thinks everything you type is a lie. | ||
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On August 24 2011 09:16 Foolishness wrote: So Palmar, when you and a few others switch back to Mig last minute and the rest of the chaos voters switch to xtfftc and we get a no lynch can we lynch you tomorrow? If this goes wrong then someone needs to take the blame for it, and it's going to be you. I'll switch back in an hour if there is no love. Actually make that 40 minutes. | ||
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The Chaos thing isn't going to work. | ||
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On August 24 2011 09:44 RayzorFlash wrote: I will be around for the next hour... Also am voting Hiro and have been pushing it for a while... Will consider switching to either chaos or Mig if it ensures a no-lynch, but would prefer Hiro today since he's seemed the scummiest... Typing on ceellphone due to technical issues with computer -_- I hope that's a typo. | ||
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On August 24 2011 11:26 nard wrote: .. what a dumb hiro is more like it. you played a more convincing town when you were scum in our last mini mafia -_- If you have a gun shoot him. | ||
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Pyo Palmar RayzorFlash nard chaos13 Barundar BrownBear One is a townie but I don't know which. | ||
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On August 25 2011 18:25 Palmar wrote: GG everyone, I wanna apologize for two things. a) Most importantly, anything I say within the game should be considered "role-playing". If anyone takes it personally, then I'm deeply sorry, I got a bit frustrated there for a while because I'm super-competitive. So yeah, sorry about my attitude. I'm available to talk things over if anyone feels mistreated. b) Sorry for my terrible play this game. This is the worst game I've played as town since my first 3 games where I was learning. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Go get them town! Good luck, see you next game. Let's go have a beer. Scummy fucks.  GLHF | ||
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Keep your head down man.  | ||
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Someday I hope to still be playing on page 110. | ||
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