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On August 24 2011 00:31 DropBear wrote: Yeah well you know from RTM that my judgement isn't always best T_T Sorry for being a retard but we need to get back to business. RayzorFlash and xtfftc? How about BrownBear? | ||
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Worst case they're lying, and since no one counterclaims DB, Foolishness is scum. It looks like an insane gambit from scum point of view. Occam's razor tells us they're both town. I hope our vigis shoot scummy lurkers, I want to lynch scummy active people. | ||
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On August 24 2011 03:39 Varpulis wrote: wow DB. way to fucking kill the town atmosphere. the last ~5 pages contained no scumhunting, no discussion of lynches, nothing. Just arguments about sanity of dts, supersoft's alignment, and sanity of DropBear. And as a MEDIC? I suggest we let the mafia deal with them. If they leave him alive to make him seem suspicious, we have a medic for town to control. Get a dt to check him, and bob's your uncle. shut up stop giving our dts bad advice | ||
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I'm gonna give this a bit of a thought. | ||
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On August 24 2011 07:01 Erandorr wrote: Yo palmar you still down with lynching bb? I would very much want to lynch BrownBear, but I'm not sure I can build the support for that case today. Of the other candidates there are some for points and some against. Hiro Protagonist has either very much stepped up his scum play, or I'm right and he's town, I don't want to lynch him today. xtffcasdio is much more scummy than hiro. But there is a certain impulsiveness in his posts. I can't exactly put my finger on it, but he's not gone below the "fishy" category for me yet. Which leaves Mig. The entire argument against Mig, is that he has done very, very little fingerpointing that matters this game. Mig is one to usually tear up the thread as town and find scum left and right. He says he's fed up with mafia at the moment, but I mean, it's huge wifom if he's actually telling the truth in that regard. There are other daming things in Mig's play. He has stuck down a total of 3 fos's in this game. One on Sevryn, where he called him lolscum, only to back it off later and try to switch the town to lynch chaoser. I don't know if Mig ever thought he could sway town with this switch, but it sure didn't look like he was pushing it. Lastly he wrote an analysis on DropBear, who has... well... played questionably throughout the game. I don't really mind this case, what I mind is the fact that Mig was wrong again, and seemed to be going for a target that was easy to hunt down. As I said much earlier in the thread, I have a fuckton of respect for Mig as a player, and given that respect, I don't think he can have done the things he has done unless he is either completely and utterly fed up with the game, or just not town-aligned. I find the latter more likely. ##Vote Mig | ||
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The games I'm referring to are BC's AA and SNMMII. Thing is, meta isn't always reliable, good players can and will change up their meta, but there is always... something. I don't know, it just feels like he's too... jumpy/impulsive/arrogant to be scum this game. But do form your own opinions. | ||
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On August 24 2011 07:24 Kurumi wrote: Well guys, then hiro protagonist will try to outsmart the bullet during the night. Oh wait, it's a HAMMER. There's a link between supersoft+Palmar and hiro protagonist, in my opinion it's a very good lynch given that AND he is scummy as heck and I do believe he is scum. if you actually have a hammer, feel free to punch hiro in the face if it's your best read. I'd suggest Vain and Nard as other options. Maybe even chaos13, who has done literally nothing to help town this game. I find it really contradictory that he keeps ranting about town atmosphere being bad, yet has not taken any visible action to improve it. | ||
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I think killing Mig is the right thing. Town, you know what to do, we need a majority in the next 5 hours. Kill Mig! | ||
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On August 24 2011 07:44 Curu wrote: I'm kind of glad I never had to play Town with you past day 1 before this. You are ridiculously stubborn and annoying to deal with. I form opinions, and I then try to objectively read the thread after that, but it's hard. I'm not afraid of being wrong, and I've quite often been right. Maybe this is the game where I'm wrong on all accounts, but I expect others to be able to pick that up. Also, why do you basically declare me town? Do you know my alignment? | ||
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On August 24 2011 08:05 Curu wrote: Look at your arguments, you're basically saying hiro is a worse lynch than Mig because of meta arguments and how they play in other games. That's basically it and you're trying to force your opinion down everyone's throats instead of laying out why you think these things. hiro looks worse than Mig to me, I'd much rather him be the lynch today. I'm trying to explain to you why, you respond with "Curu doesn't want to lynch Mig, so let's lynch Mig." What do you want me to say? I have read both arguments, there have been numerous other points about Mig, not only mine. Neither are in no way connected to any of the other tunnels I've had the entire game. I came to this conclusion after re-reading the posts of all three. I don't even understand what your gripe is. | ||
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i we can muster enough votes, I'd love a last minute switch to him. ##Unvote Mig ##Vote chaos13 | ||
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Let's not fuck this up again, let's lynch chaos13. | ||
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It's based majorly on three things in his play, so I'll just quickly summarize them up now: a) He complains about bad town atmosphere but does nothing to improve it, in turn becoming part of the problem b) He's basically abstaining from voting, both on day 1, and now again on day 2, by throwing his votes on random people that aren't in danger of being lynched. c) He hasn't actually pushed a single lynch hard the entire game. First off, let's look at his day 1 performance. This is basically what he did. He attacked me for disrupting town atmosphere, but he did nothing to try and remedy the "problem". All he did was throw down the vote on me, and complain some more. He never really pushed my lynch either, he kinda said he wanted to do it, but never commited to forcing town to do his bidding. Now let's also look at one major slip up on day 1. On August 21 2011 07:55 chaos13 wrote: By now you should know that if you feel like lynching me, I'm probably town :p But seriously, your only reason for being okay with lynching me is because I think you're scum. That is a textbook OMGUS, and I have no idea why everyone seems to think you're so town. You're the reason this thread has been so completely derailed already. Here's the deal. He says he thinks I am mafia, but the bolded sentences really looks like he believes that my accusations are genuine, the first one is a joke, the other one isn't. If he thinks I'm scum, why on earth would my accusations be genuine. Chaos13 ends day one with his vote on me on the basis that he thinks I am scum, and yet he fully understands how bad off-votes are for town. He also did the razorflash switch, I don't know if it's to absolve him of responsibility or what, but I don't like it. The second post I'm going to look specifically at from chaos comes in wake of the DB mess on day 2. He does have some questionable content over the day, just read it up and think about it. On August 23 2011 21:15 chaos13 wrote: This post is the reason I'm inclined not to believe you. I can't see a genuine DT with a red check feeling like they will have trouble getting their red check lynched. This is a guilty mindset. The order of events I would like to see happen right now 1. Lynch DB 2. If blue flip, vig supersoft 3. Suddenly, information - lynch mig. Going back to read all of DropBear's posts before I move my vote to him. Am I still the only one who thinks Foolish is scum? Check this post out I've never seen a townie be so adamant about defending their town read before. Regardless, I'll drop him for today and focus on what's relevant. This plan he's giving us is basically the perfect way to continue as mafia. He already knows both supersoft and dropbear won't flip scum, so hell, let's suggest we kill them both! This is of course based on the assumption they aren't scum, but we need to work with something. I think chaos 13 is our best lynch today ##Vote Chaos13 | ||
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