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xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
September 04 2011 22:45 GMT
#2256
I'll be online for one more hour before voting.. Hoping for some miracle to happen and people to start posting.

For the record, I love it how Navillus appeared to explain why Pyo is not the person we should be lynching and then disappeared again without accusing anyone else.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
September 04 2011 22:45 GMT
#2257
P.S. I think that the mafia team has voted already ^^
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
September 04 2011 23:08 GMT
#2260
I thought that he is but then I realised I was just bandwagoning. I can imagine that some players would intentionally go for the dumb/frustrated play to trick the town into not lynching them but it is way too risky. I think that if we're going to lynch someone for not playing well, we should go for Rayzor.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
September 04 2011 23:57 GMT
#2264
He was fairly active in Day 1, got himself into trouble, was soft-defended by Mig and only survived because half of us were sleeping. Since then he has virtually disappeared. It feels like a coin flip but with the coin flip at least we have some chance. Also, mafia are bound to have at least one newbie.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
September 05 2011 00:17 GMT
#2269
On September 05 2011 09:14 Erandorr wrote:
If Chaoser survives the night we should probably lynch him

Mafia have a roleblocker; there's no need to KP the DT.

I'm voting for Rayzor and going to bed. Hope that enough people are around to avoid a no-lynch.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
September 05 2011 08:02 GMT
#2283
On September 05 2011 11:58 RayzorFlash wrote:
3 modkills... At least it'll be an interesting day post, even though there wasnt a lynch... We fell one vote short, xtfftc being the last one to switch from Pyo over to me causing a no lynch

WTF xt, I havent thought you were scummy since any point after day 2, but this makes me reconsider it


If three out of the 9 townies decide not to play anymore, we have no chance anyway.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
September 05 2011 22:52 GMT
#2289
On August 21 2011 08:38 Mig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 01:41 Palmar wrote:
Where the fuck is Mig, are you scum this game too?


I went to bed broski.

After reading back through everything I actually think chaoser is scummier than sevryn. He spent the start of the day making bland fluff posts giving generic advice to town and followed it up with doing absolutely no scum hunting. For comparison look at his posts day1 and day2 of mafia 39

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=216644&user=41788.

In 39 chaoser absolutely dominated as town single handedly taking out half the scum team within the first 2 days. In that game he didn't make any fluff posts giving generic advice, he spent all his time actively pressuring people and doing real scum hunting. And now look at his play and his activity this game. It is the polar opposite.

I still think sevryn is scummy but his play is at least similar to his town meta, chaoser is playing completely out of character for his town play and is contributing nothing when he is a very strong player.

Vote: Chaoser


If people don't switch I will go back to sevryn before the deadline.



On August 21 2011 08:56 Mig wrote:
The Vet point for chaoser is accurate but there is a pretty huge difference between being such a dominating force and providing detailed and good scum hunting and his play this game. The main thing to look at is chaoser's motivation. In 39 he ran a gambit where he pressure voted early just to try and get a read on a player. He was actively searching for scum, he was questioning people repeatedly early on. This game he has been completely MIA he asked nav like 2 questions, which he didn't follow up on at all. He is putting 0 effort into helping the town when he very capable.


An entertaining read, especially if Mig actually posted this for a fellow mafia member ^^
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
September 06 2011 06:48 GMT
#2314
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
September 09 2011 01:33 GMT
#2407
On September 08 2011 14:53 Palmar wrote:other people like xtf and wbg played alright-ish once they got the chance to pull their heads out of their asses, but that was just too late.

I do not deserve such flattery!

On September 08 2011 21:16 Erandorr wrote:
To speak very bluntly , if you behave in this agressive manner and lets be honest like abit of a dick, people , especially newer ones, will not listing to you.

Personally I had no problem with this but I just don't mind cocky behaviour as long as it is based on something (good contributions in this case). But I must agree that it was often benefitial to mafia - at one point I did not want to agree with Palmar publicly, although he had managed to convince me, just because his attitude was making me doubt him.

I'd like to say a few things on my gameplay. Naturally, with this being my first game (apart from some SC2 Mafia but it's nothing like the real thing) I was plain horrible.
Considering that, I think I did okay at defending myself and following leads - although it was only after I died that I realised how much of my analysis was based on people lurking, which was completely wrong.

I did pretty bad as medic, of course. I was happy with my decision not to protect Chaoser after his claim... only to find out that Curu, whom I healed instead, was mafia as well. And it got even worse when I convinced myself that I should actually protect Chaoser and did it the second night after his claim. :/

I wouldn't normally reveal my thinking but I feel like I should defend myself (really scummy, I know). Being a blue, I started the game with the idea to be a bit suspicious in order to avoid the attention of the mafia. Pretty soon I realised that this plan wasn't that smart, of course: mafia were going to be much more interested in the veteran players and by attracting the attention to myself I was simply giving them an easier ride. Also, the way I executed this strategy was rather poor. Some of the suspicious things I did were planned but others were completely unintentional.

I did annoy Supersoft on purpose once I felt safe enough though. I thought it'd be a good idea to observe other people's reactions to it. Which would have been great - if only I had trusted myself enough to finish what I started. It made me really suspicious of Curu and I wrote a case against him but never posted it because I was sure that quite a few townies would instantly read it as an OMGUS reaction. Now I know better not to worry too much about people freaking out. It is bound to happen, so it shouldn't stop a townie from revealing their thought process - even when their findings are flat out wrong.

Also, now that I am rereading the thread, I notice that Erandorr also did exactly what I was hoping for mafia to do - but I forgot about it immediately as well.


Anyway, I have a question. I decided to protect Foolishness on night 2 and 3, although I thought that it wasn't a good move: I was sure that mafia would either stack KPs on him or eliminate others. What is a good strategy for medic in this case? Is it all WIFOM? (if they expect me to protect him, they'll go for someone else; but if I expect them to go for someone else, I don't have to protect him; but then they don't have to stack KPs on him and can use just one; etc....)
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