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Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
August 23 2011 11:09 GMT
#1041
Can you explain why xtfftc is the scum wagon and not Mig?

Is this directed at me?
Bartundar
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 23 2011 11:09 GMT
#1042
Palmar

VE - Seems his normal townie self out spoken and nonsensical. Completely different than his scum play in say RTM.

Curu - Seemed pretty normal curu until I defended myself. He voted for me but then once I appeared he does a complete 180 and started strongly defending me? Meh don't really get it. Possibly trying to buddy with me or take credit once I flip. That combined with his complete lack of any real analysis this game I would say leaning scummy.

BB - His initial vote on jeejee and the fact he never actually pushed for the lynch was scummy combined with it was weird how he spent so much time arguing with you but I never saw him saw him say you were scum. But I disagreed with the other part of your analysis where you concluded his logic auto made him mafia. There is a reason 50% of games start with people arguing about whether they should lynch lurkers or not. A lot of townies genuinely think that is the correct day1 play and I don't know BB well enough to know if that is what he actually believes. His more recent posts are giant walls of text that are ridiculously annoying to read which I don't really feel one way or another about. I would say likely scum.

Something like BB/chaoser/db/chaos13 or curu or barundar/2 new players would make sense to me from a balance perspective. But I don't feel as strongly as you do about him. I am much more certain of DB.

Barundar yea I could tell you have been skimming considering you listed me getting pegged and disappearing as a reason to vote for me. When I have probably posted more times than anyone today and have been discussing with foolish most of the day.
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Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
August 23 2011 11:16 GMT
#1043
Unvoting mig. Looking forward to hearing from DB.
Bartundar
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 11:18 GMT
#1044
Directed at Palmar, Barundar.

Mig you know what regard I hold for you as a player, unless there is damning evidence or you openly declare your inactivity I'm going to be hesitant to lynch you. I voted for you because you were still contributing nothing well past your normally useless period, that reason disappeared so my vote moved. Easy enough to understand.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 11:20 GMT
#1045
I don't see where you're coming from with no "real" analysis though. Maybe you don't agree with it but I think I've made my thoughts pretty clear.
wat
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 23 2011 11:29 GMT
#1046
Most of your thoughts seem superficial to me. You post whatever thoughts seem to enter your head but I am not sure I have seen you post anything that makes me think you have really been thinking a lot about the game.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 11:35 GMT
#1047
You thought I was scum in XLIII for not posting what I was thinking and you think I'm scum now for posting too much of what I'm thinking. Derp okay.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 11:42 GMT
#1048
On August 23 2011 18:30 xtfftc wrote:
Wall of text incoming:

[spoiler]
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 11:37 Curu wrote:
xtffc's "two town kills" slip definitely needs to be looked at, and I don't buy his defense. He describes town kills as kills that the Town makes, but that has absolutely nothing to do with modkills. Town does not control modkills, sick slip?????

Of course townkills have nothing to do with modkills. Townkills are made by town, modkills by mods. What is the problem?



You posted about "we need to get two town kills." That's taken to mean killing two townies - you tried to explain it away by saying town kills are kills controlled by the town = lynch and modkill. I pointed out modkill is not controlled by the Town, you agree with me. So...what did you mean by town kill?
wat
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
August 23 2011 11:48 GMT
#1049
Claiming Inquisitor

Night 1 check was supersoft who came back as guilty

I voted Mig because
a) Foolishness voted him, who is pretty much confirmed after night 1.
b) Because of these:

On August 22 2011 16:56 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 10:34 Mig wrote:
Meh did you guys see the post foolish quoted? This is rayzor's first ever game if he were mafia would he really put himself out there like that if he knew sevryn was green? Seems to be the opposite of how most new mafia players would play.

I am going to stick with sevryn.


...

I am not sure about mig... have to think about it.


On August 22 2011 17:42 supersoft wrote:
i am not convinced of that migthing now... He has been pretty useless so far and refused to do something at the end of day1. But I think it's too early to judge mig. I think we should talk about the result of the rayzoflash-incident first.

The common sense at the end of day1 - i am talking about the last 4 hours - was that sev is most likely innocent. However we didn't manage to achieve a new majority for a rayzorflashlynch.
Basically there are two possibilities now.
First possiblity is, that Rayzor is innocent and the scumteam didn't do anything to influence the outcome of the last 4 hours, because they just didn't care. They would have voted Rayzor and sev together with the town. If that would be the case, the reason why we couldn't swing the votecount is the inactivity in general.

But I don't believe that so many people just weren't here for no reason. I believe the scumteam stayed inactive because they wanted to protect rayzor. And there is the second possibility: Rayzor is scum.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on this. And i'd also like to hear some reasons for your inactivity @all the ppl who weren't there to vote.


On August 23 2011 04:15 supersoft wrote:
i just saw, mig already stacked 3 votes on him. Like I said earlier, I don't trust him etc. but for me it's too early to lynch him.


On August 23 2011 08:33 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 07:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
On August 23 2011 06:40 Foolishness wrote:
On August 23 2011 06:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
hiro is acting like cocky-ass scum this game, and I think he's hiding behind his meta. He doesn't usually play like this when scum (he doesn't often play scum at all actually)...one of his only games I've played with him though he was the lurky lacky of Palmar, in the game he referenced at the BEGINNING of the game, establishing his meta. I don't like it. Hiro takes the lead of second-runner-ups-to-Palmar-on-my-scum-list.

Wait a minute, you said that me using meta in my arguments was pointless and (for the most part) rampant speculation. But now you're voting for Hiro based on meta?

WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS WORLD


We need to be careful.

I feel like there's enough disorganization that townies are making too many mistakes. We can't have red herrings fuck us in the ass from just having everyone be suspicious. Paranoia will make us unfocused, and that lets mafia win.

For now, I propose that we focus on 3 or fewer lynch targets. At the moment, I think xtfftc has the strongest case. After, I would say we can make pretty good cases for both Mig and nard.

Vain we can leave alone for now, we can't really build a case on him when he hasn't said anything to begin with. Once we hear some opinions from the players who currently aren't here I think we can get talking some more.


i totally agree with you. I was just about getting really paranoid. I don't understand the whole foolishness/mig/chaoser i know it's about meta etc. but why don't we just keep playing this out like usually.

We have a pretty solid case against xtfftc based on his vote-patterns and his refuse to commentate on other suspects.


Mig was up for lynch first so why the hell not.

Sucker for nostalgia
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 23 2011 11:49 GMT
#1050
Dropbear are you serious? You are claiming dt then saying you should lynch me instead of the person you got a red check back from? What the fuck?
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 11:50 GMT
#1051
...so you claim DT and rather than push the guy you got a red result on you go for Mig because "Mig was up for lynch first so why the hell not."??????
wat
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
August 23 2011 11:56 GMT
#1052
They are linked. supersoft has been defending him like crazy. xtffc or however you spell it is second in the votes. Who started that train? supersoft did. Also on it is wherebugsgo who I don't trust as far as I could throw.

There was already a bandwagon on Mig, led by the sole confirmed townie. I don't see the problem?
Sucker for nostalgia
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 23 2011 11:58 GMT
#1053
Uh how about the fact that I am town?
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
August 23 2011 11:58 GMT
#1054
Hell if I can get people to lynch supersoft instead I'd be stoked but Mig is red as hell based on supersoft's actions.
Sucker for nostalgia
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 11:59 GMT
#1055
Townie does not = they are right. I think Foolishness is the most likely Townie in this game, that doesn't mean I'm going to sheep his opinion all day.

Why pick this time to claim DT? You had all of 1 vote on you.
wat
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 23 2011 12:02 GMT
#1056
Well obviously you want supersoft lynched now? That has to be the reason you claimed? If you are so sure I am scum I don't understand why you claimed dt already instead of just arguing for my lynch.

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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
August 23 2011 12:03 GMT
#1057
On August 23 2011 20:59 Curu wrote:
Townie does not = they are right. I think Foolishness is the most likely Townie in this game, that doesn't mean I'm going to sheep his opinion all day.

Why pick this time to claim DT? You had all of 1 vote on you.

More about the fact that you and Barundar unvoted him and now xtfsjdaksh leads the lynch.
Mig needs to die. And I'm not going to online at lynch time/

If you'd rather vote supersoft that's cool with me too.
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
August 23 2011 12:04 GMT
#1058
On August 23 2011 21:02 Mig wrote:
Well obviously you want supersoft lynched now? That has to be the reason you claimed? If you are so sure I am scum I don't understand why you claimed dt already instead of just arguing for my lynch.


Damn straight I want supersoft lynched. I would like you to die too though <3
Sucker for nostalgia
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
August 23 2011 12:04 GMT
#1059
Let me put it like this: I don't believe for one second you are DT, but if you flip blue we deal with supersoft.

##Vote DropBear
Bartundar
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 23 2011 12:07 GMT
#1060
This requires re-reading.
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