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Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 05 2011 23:27 GMT
#2290
*sigh*
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 06 2011 21:38 GMT
#2326
On September 07 2011 03:11 Pyo wrote:
Calling it now, scum team: kurumi, chaoser, erandorr

Doesn't seem like there's anything else I can do since supersoft has disappeared and curu doesn't want to listen (there's a guy voting for himself... why would you help him out? That's just retarded). With scum controlling 3 votes and rayzor being a traitor, it's already game over... the next (and last) 8 hours are gonna be the most painful - only hope is for Erandorr to get modkilled.


Stop running yourself in a wall dude I pushed for Scum (other than mig , I admit) every time when you were happy bandwagoning.
I am not voting yet, I will read the thread thoroughly and make sure I am convinced in the vote I will make
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 06 2011 23:39 GMT
#2328
Random Rayzor Highlights I noticed while going through his posts ;

Just to be clear:
- Jackal is against me because he thinks that, since I'm a new player, for me to be participating at all means I'm being coached, instead of meaning that I may actually have researched the game and have a sense of how to play??


Took time coz I wasnt at home, sorry ...

Myself: I think theres a very solid case against me, but what scum would totally put themselves out there like this, and have NOBODY else defending him except for himself??? I don't think that behavior fits scum... Maybe a very noob town player, which I am, but if I was scum I'd be more guarded or protected, dont you think?



Sorry guys, I've had computer issues since last night, and still do, lol...

I have no problem with lynching either Hiro or Xtfftc, so long as its not a no-lynch... I'll try to check back and change my vote before the deadline, its on Hiro right now... Go back and read some of my earlier posts about why I think Hiro's been acting scummy if you need more reasons to vote for him



I'm trying to catch up on this again because i was in a flight (toronto to london)... This game is really being pretty shitty, and I cant help but think that its partly my fault due to my absolutely horrible sense of who is town and who isnt (all the of my picks so far have turned out to be town, lady luck is a bitch, lol...) and me being new at this (contrary to popular belief, not getting coached either) i've turned out to seem so scummy despite being town -_-




Now, also, keep in mind that I am a new player, and this is my first game, and (contrary to popular belief) i havent been getting coached... The only research I actually did before staring was read the Analysis post, as well as the beginners guide, and an older Mafia game (XLiii)

He also got away with pushing the first two lynches and then just bandwagoning from there on .


##Vote Rayzor
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 06 2011 23:41 GMT
#2329
I dont want to write a giant wall of text right now, I want people to read everything that has been colected on Rayzor and then maybe we can turn this game around
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 06 2011 23:42 GMT
#2330
On September 07 2011 08:27 supersoft wrote:
i'll figure something out... since xtfftc wasn't scum, i have to take many things into reconsideration :-D


what the fuck was that ninja vote???
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 07 2011 23:22 GMT
#2342
On September 08 2011 07:43 supersoft wrote:
since I am convinced, that rayzor is most likely scum,
and in theory there is a 50/50 chance to kill scum tonight (if we kill anyone except me),
I won't post any further thoughts about this game until 1 minute before the night ends.
Because I don't want to give away any information to the scumteam who they should shoot.


how about you explain your fucking ninja vote yesterday?
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 08 2011 12:16 GMT
#2395
Palmar , from a Scum perspective it was actually not that bad to have you in the game because you kept shitting the thread up better than any of us could. "Its not what you know , its what you can people make believe " . And honestly your whole gameplan is based on the assumption that everything should revolve around YOU. Town atmosphere does not matter when you can do it all by yourself , right?
To speak very bluntly , if you behave in this agressive manner and lets be honest like abit of a dick, people , especially newer ones, will not listing to you. If you read through the earlier parts of the game you ignored everyone except maybe foolish and shattered any common goals in town play because you ignored any other opinions instead of answering in a calm manner that would have helped town get victory pretty early.
I just reread some earlier parts of the game where xt came under suspicion.
You just said " Xt is not scum" instead of explaining why and forcing the conversation in the right direction again . If you play like that you cant honestly belive that people will follow you, it even went so far as that people started to ignore some of your really good analysis , just because they were fed up with the way you played.
And then after you died by the hands of hero Kurumi you could no longer explain those great reads you had and left town in a very awkward spot and through the modkills every bit of fun was taken out of the lategame.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 08 2011 12:53 GMT
#2397
On September 08 2011 21:30 Palmar wrote:
@Chaos13 - yeah, as I repeatedly said I'm not going to (and I haven't) repeated this same style of play. It's very easy to pick out mafia like this,but it's terrible for making other people read the thread. Let's call it an experiment. I think I've found a more balanced way of pushing my ideas, and I'm using those in more recent games. It's slightly harder to find scum, but it also doesn't destroy town atmosphere.

I am fully aware of the shortcomings of this approach, which is why this is the only game I employed it and the only game I will employ it. This does not work as an excuse for people who didn't read the thread though.

And to answer your last point chaos13, is that when everyone is cool, calculated and logical, the mafia can be exactly the same. It's very, very easy to fake an analytical mistake, but it's surprisingly hard to fake an emotional response. By stirring things up, if you're able to then disconnect you from the situation, you can get miles better read on people, because things posted fast like 1-liners, arguments, shouting etc, is a lot less thought out than analysis, and thus much easier to read the true motivations, as they cannot be properly hidden in the time-frame it takes to respond to this emotional style of play.

Erandorr, thanks for telling me things I know.


Youre welcome !
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 08 2011 13:16 GMT
#2401
On September 08 2011 22:03 DropBear wrote:
Wp Mafia, sorry everyone about my day 2 silliness, especially to you supersoft.


You should have seen our reactions to your claim, we were so confused :D
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