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xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
August 20 2011 21:08 GMT
#501
On August 21 2011 06:02 RayzorFlash wrote:I think it would be good leads to go after anyone aggressively pushing for Sev if he's green, and I know i'm included in that list :S.

Who else would you include in this list?
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 20 2011 21:42 GMT
#502
On August 21 2011 06:02 RayzorFlash wrote:

(OOC: What does WIFOM mean??)


It stands for "Wine in front of me" its from the movie princess bride. Though i dont understand it completely myself, its a situation that arises that is confusing because of circular logic, for example if bob is being tunneled and the person tunneling him dies at night, you could say well he must be mafia. but the mafia would want you to think that so what if they killed the tunneller to frame bob. but what if bob knew that....

if anyone has an explination that makes more sense please post it
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 20 2011 21:52 GMT
#503
On August 21 2011 06:06 Sevryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 06:02 RayzorFlash wrote:
On August 21 2011 05:13 Sevryn wrote:

Rayzorflash im calling you out.
Most of his posts before I become the lynch target are speculation on what mafia would or would not want and i view this is as slightly scummy.
Then he ninja votes on me and when called out
On August 20 2011 01:40 RayzorFlash wrote:
On August 20 2011 01:07 Sevryn wrote:
Nice stealth vote ray


Your post seemed like obvious scum to me, the scummiest post so far, and I will most likely be away for the rest of the day so I put in a vote against you... I'll check back later and see if I have to change it, but I doubt if I will :p



My stealth vote for you was what an actual pressure vote looks like. All of a sudden, the pressure on you made you get all defensive and even pull your vote off DropBear. I'd say it was quite successful in exposing scummy behavior.

On August 21 2011 05:13 Sevryn wrote:

Yes you do lose something you lose a townie when i flip green and going after the people who most aggressively tried to get me lynched is all WIFOM.


We lose a townie who has, for the entire first day contributed absolutely nothing towards discussion except a really scummy first accusation, and since then has just focused on defending himself? I don't think that's losing too much.
(OOC: What does WIFOM mean??)


On August 21 2011 05:37 xtfftc wrote:

To be fair, I sort of agree with this. Kudos to Rayzor for pointing out supersoft's witchhunt but this statement was ridiculous. Mafia is unlikely to go so aggressively against a townie and by encouraging us to go after Sevryn's most vicious accusers in case he is innocent, he might secure another town lynch. Especially considering that Sevryn did get himself into a mess of his own... It's not like someone fabricated it all.

So, in case Sevryn turns out to be a townie after the lynch, Rayzor is a good lead, and if Sevryn is indeed mafia, Rayzor is probably clean.


Sure, I'll gladly take the fall if Sev proves to be green, but I don't think there was anything scummy at all about my post. I think it would be good leads to go after anyone aggressively pushing for Sev if he's green, and I know i'm included in that list :S.

Ah the age old argument of the guy who everyone is calling scum is defending himself "SUCH A SCUMMY MOVE"


Why don't you actually contribute something, then? Your posts and your activity makes sense from a mafia standpoint; for more than 24 hours you did absolutely nothing. Why didn't you contribute? If you had already defended yourself, why didn't you read posts and provide your opinion?

Why were you lurking? Trust me, there's time; if you can provide some reasonable defense for yourself and actually suggest things that will help town without appearing scummy (like you have appeared for the entirety of the day) then clearly it's in our best interest to lynch someone else. So far you haven't done a very good job of that, which paints you as red to me.

My vote stays on you as long as I believe you're mafia.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
August 20 2011 21:59 GMT
#504
i'd be totally down with lynching RayzorFlash
Computer says mafia
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 20 2011 22:03 GMT
#505
On August 21 2011 06:59 Palmar wrote:
i'd be totally down with lynching RayzorFlash

You're totally down with lynching everybody.
Life can only kill you once.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
August 20 2011 22:12 GMT
#506
On August 21 2011 07:03 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 06:59 Palmar wrote:
i'd be totally down with lynching RayzorFlash

You're totally down with lynching everybody.


nah, I maintain a list of people I'm fine with lynching.

BrownBear
DropBear
Chaos13
RayzorFlash
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
August 20 2011 22:13 GMT
#507
Maybe mig, because he's unusually bad.
Computer says mafia
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
August 20 2011 22:15 GMT
#508
On August 21 2011 06:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 06:06 Sevryn wrote:
On August 21 2011 06:02 RayzorFlash wrote:
On August 21 2011 05:13 Sevryn wrote:

Rayzorflash im calling you out.
Most of his posts before I become the lynch target are speculation on what mafia would or would not want and i view this is as slightly scummy.
Then he ninja votes on me and when called out
On August 20 2011 01:40 RayzorFlash wrote:
On August 20 2011 01:07 Sevryn wrote:
Nice stealth vote ray


Your post seemed like obvious scum to me, the scummiest post so far, and I will most likely be away for the rest of the day so I put in a vote against you... I'll check back later and see if I have to change it, but I doubt if I will :p



My stealth vote for you was what an actual pressure vote looks like. All of a sudden, the pressure on you made you get all defensive and even pull your vote off DropBear. I'd say it was quite successful in exposing scummy behavior.

On August 21 2011 05:13 Sevryn wrote:

Yes you do lose something you lose a townie when i flip green and going after the people who most aggressively tried to get me lynched is all WIFOM.


We lose a townie who has, for the entire first day contributed absolutely nothing towards discussion except a really scummy first accusation, and since then has just focused on defending himself? I don't think that's losing too much.
(OOC: What does WIFOM mean??)


On August 21 2011 05:37 xtfftc wrote:

To be fair, I sort of agree with this. Kudos to Rayzor for pointing out supersoft's witchhunt but this statement was ridiculous. Mafia is unlikely to go so aggressively against a townie and by encouraging us to go after Sevryn's most vicious accusers in case he is innocent, he might secure another town lynch. Especially considering that Sevryn did get himself into a mess of his own... It's not like someone fabricated it all.

So, in case Sevryn turns out to be a townie after the lynch, Rayzor is a good lead, and if Sevryn is indeed mafia, Rayzor is probably clean.


Sure, I'll gladly take the fall if Sev proves to be green, but I don't think there was anything scummy at all about my post. I think it would be good leads to go after anyone aggressively pushing for Sev if he's green, and I know i'm included in that list :S.

Ah the age old argument of the guy who everyone is calling scum is defending himself "SUCH A SCUMMY MOVE"


Why don't you actually contribute something, then? Your posts and your activity makes sense from a mafia standpoint; for more than 24 hours you did absolutely nothing. Why didn't you contribute? If you had already defended yourself, why didn't you read posts and provide your opinion?

Why were you lurking? Trust me, there's time; if you can provide some reasonable defense for yourself and actually suggest things that will help town without appearing scummy (like you have appeared for the entirety of the day) then clearly it's in our best interest to lynch someone else. So far you haven't done a very good job of that, which paints you as red to me.

My vote stays on you as long as I believe you're mafia.

I went to work at 6pm yesterday and then went to bed and woke up at 4pm today. this is all est. I can't prove that i wasn't lurking but i wasn't since i can't prove it I decided not to explain why i wasnt here in my post seems kinda irrelevant.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
August 20 2011 22:15 GMT
#509
On August 21 2011 06:42 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 06:02 RayzorFlash wrote:

(OOC: What does WIFOM mean??)


It stands for "Wine in front of me" its from the movie princess bride. Though i dont understand it completely myself, its a situation that arises that is confusing because of circular logic, for example if bob is being tunneled and the person tunneling him dies at night, you could say well he must be mafia. but the mafia would want you to think that so what if they killed the tunneller to frame bob. but what if bob knew that....

if anyone has an explination that makes more sense please post it





On August 21 2011 05:44 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 05:34 Foolishness wrote:
Man this is a touch choice

Which choice is that?

I'm unvoting Sevryn. As I previously stated he has not set off any bells with what he had posted but by his disappearance.



I'm confused. What do you mean by this? What exactly has changed that would warrant you changing your vote? The only thing I can see is that he's received the critical mass to actually have a lynch so he'll get lynched even if you change your vote. Are you trying to cover your tracks for if/when he flips green?
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4429 Posts
August 20 2011 22:27 GMT
#510
This thread is a mess T_T

On August 21 2011 06:02 RayzorFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 05:13 Sevryn wrote:

Rayzorflash im calling you out.
Most of his posts before I become the lynch target are speculation on what mafia would or would not want and i view this is as slightly scummy.
Then he ninja votes on me and when called out
On August 20 2011 01:40 RayzorFlash wrote:
On August 20 2011 01:07 Sevryn wrote:
Nice stealth vote ray


Your post seemed like obvious scum to me, the scummiest post so far, and I will most likely be away for the rest of the day so I put in a vote against you... I'll check back later and see if I have to change it, but I doubt if I will :p



My stealth vote for you was what an actual pressure vote looks like. All of a sudden, the pressure on you made you get all defensive and even pull your vote off DropBear. I'd say it was quite successful in exposing scummy behavior.

Sevryn took his vote off me before he came under any pressure at all. So this is incorrect.
How is a silent vote a pressure vote exactly?




Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4429 Posts
August 20 2011 22:32 GMT
#511
I WOULD LIKE TO LYNCH HIRO PROTAGONIST

He's been skirting around doing little. Only 8 posts since the game started. His actions thus far have been:

- Joke post about Palmar being scum
- Crapping on about how amazing Quickstriker's posts are
- Crapping on about how well he played as Mafia in some old game
- Claiming he will return and contribute heavily and failing to do so
- Voting sevryn just because. No reasoning given.

LET US LYNCH HIRO
Sucker for nostalgia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
August 20 2011 22:41 GMT
#512
So how obvious is it that sevryn is not scum?
Computer says mafia
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
August 20 2011 22:46 GMT
#513
Would you pick a non-lynch instead of lynching Sevryn?
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
August 20 2011 22:47 GMT
#514
On August 21 2011 07:46 xtfftc wrote:
Would you pick a non-lynch instead of lynching Sevryn?

I would
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 20 2011 22:49 GMT
#515
On August 21 2011 07:15 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 06:42 GreYMisT wrote:
On August 21 2011 06:02 RayzorFlash wrote:

(OOC: What does WIFOM mean??)


It stands for "Wine in front of me" its from the movie princess bride. Though i dont understand it completely myself, its a situation that arises that is confusing because of circular logic, for example if bob is being tunneled and the person tunneling him dies at night, you could say well he must be mafia. but the mafia would want you to think that so what if they killed the tunneller to frame bob. but what if bob knew that....

if anyone has an explination that makes more sense please post it


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6wqKb8EUxI


Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 05:44 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 21 2011 05:34 Foolishness wrote:
Man this is a touch choice

Which choice is that?

I'm unvoting Sevryn. As I previously stated he has not set off any bells with what he had posted but by his disappearance.



I'm confused. What do you mean by this? What exactly has changed that would warrant you changing your vote? The only thing I can see is that he's received the critical mass to actually have a lynch so he'll get lynched even if you change your vote. Are you trying to cover your tracks for if/when he flips green?

I don't believe him to be scum.
Life can only kill you once.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4429 Posts
August 20 2011 22:49 GMT
#516
EBWOP: Also, he's been around the block enough to realise that this shit is unacceptable. He should know better. Let us kill him



Other stuff

- I think the case against Mig is at this point non-existent
- I think the case against BrownBear is extremely poor
- I am not convinced by the cases against either Sevryn or RayzorFlash
- Palmar I strongly believe you are town but.... calm down bro.
- My second choice for lynch would be chaoser. I've played with chaoser before when he is townie and he is always among the most active players in the thread. Only 5 posts in 48 hours is a huge changeup from his town play.

Not only this, his posts have mostly been walls about how we shouldnt argue too much, how vigis and hatters should shoot who they think are scum (durr) and asking other people what they think without providing any opinions. The vote for Mig is basically "what Foolishness said".
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4429 Posts
August 20 2011 22:54 GMT
#517
On August 21 2011 07:41 Palmar wrote:
So how obvious is it that sevryn is not scum?


On August 21 2011 07:46 xtfftc wrote:
Would you pick a non-lynch instead of lynching Sevryn?


Are these directed at me or not? I can't tell

To Palmar, his vote on me was strange, the quick dropping of it was stranger but I'm not convinced either way.

To xtfftc, I'd rather lynch someone than noone. I would much rather kill hiro or chaoser over sevryn though.
Sucker for nostalgia
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
August 20 2011 22:54 GMT
#518
yeah DropBear, I would lynch me for exactly those reasons to. Problem is, I know Im town. thanks for calling me out on it though

I would be down with lynching RayzorFlash
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
August 20 2011 22:55 GMT
#519
what do you feel about killing brownbear db?
Computer says mafia
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
August 20 2011 22:55 GMT
#520
On August 21 2011 07:12 Palmar wrote:


nah, I maintain a list of people I'm fine with lynching.

BrownBear
DropBear
Chaos13
RayzorFlash


By now you should know that if you feel like lynching me, I'm probably town :p

But seriously, your only reason for being okay with lynching me is because I think you're scum. That is a textbook OMGUS, and I have no idea why everyone seems to think you're so town. You're the reason this thread has been so completely derailed already.
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