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xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
August 20 2011 19:42 GMT
#481
On August 21 2011 03:54 Palmar wrote:
he won't get modkilled if he's about to be lynched anyway, or well, that's the general way things are done.

In this case,
##Vote: Sevryn

Now, let's proceed with a discussion of what actually matters.


On August 21 2011 03:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 03:49 xtfftc wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:24 xtfftc wrote:
By the way, I have to apologise to supersoft - I just noticed that I didn't post in the voting thread, which was probably the reason he put me on his list (although it's still kind of sloppy).

So I'm going to vote after Sevryn defends himself. Palmar, DropBear and BrownBear are a story that has to develop further.


wtf? why are you afraid of voting now? Is it because others have labeled you as scum already?

I expected supersoft to be superhappy about this but noone else. Sevryn is basically dead, one way or another. No mafia will be dumb enough to protect him anymore and the townies are aware that going after anyone else now would look suspicious. But in case Sevryn gets modkilled, we need to use the opportunity for two town kills.


Then who do you propose we vote for?

My gut says supersoft and QuickSilver but my gut is biased and wants those who go after me dead ^^ Although Supersoft being so cautious when defending Sevryn and yet so aggressive against me and his earlier bandwagonning is something worth remembering.

I want to hear more from DropBear and BlackBear. I do not find DropBear particularly suspicious but he still has to answer the questions raised. BlackBear is suspicious (going too agressively against inactive players, some random accusations) and, unlike DropBear, is a target we might get a majority for.

Hiro, judging by the OP I think we have about 6 hours left.

Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
August 20 2011 19:43 GMT
#482
On August 21 2011 04:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 04:28 Barundar wrote:
On August 21 2011 04:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
I think we have a little less than 9 hours, since the day post mentioned that we have 56 hours to get votes in, and that was @ 5:00 KST on the 19th. It's now 4:00 KST on the 21st, no?

I want to hear from Barundar...he voted, but no post?

Hit filter, read my last post.


Got it. What stands out to you about BB and not Sev? What do you think of Sev's disappearance?


I think his disappearance is a sign of a frustrated townie, that feels like no matter what he does he just gets picked on.

BB case is just the best case of the alternatives, since it's actually based on analysis. It's between him and Mig for me.
Bartundar
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
August 20 2011 19:45 GMT
#483
On August 21 2011 03:58 hiro protagonist wrote:
Voting Sevryn for now, as a no lynch is bad.

how much time is there before the day ends


i'll vote for him for more or less the same reason, although he certainly did look somewhat scummy.
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
August 20 2011 19:55 GMT
#484
Supersoft, you seem to be trying wayyyy too hard to get Sevryn not lynched... Since the start you've tried putting up 3-4 different reasons to direct the vote away from Sevryn, first with a weak defense, then when called out on the defense being wishywashy, you quickly backtracked on it and said that you were just pointing out how anyone could have done that, and immediately started pressuring Xtfftc.

While Xtfftc has definitely acted suspiciously, I see it as more suspicious that you (and Palmar, to a degree) were the two who along with Sevryn caused the pressure-vote issue at the start of the game anyway, and that you (and Palmar, to a degree ) are working so hard to get attention away from Sevryn and on to other people.

At this point, I would expect scum to just leave Sev to defend himself since they wouldnt want to get caught defending him, and try to either set-up a subsequent lynch away from them, or try to redirect attention away from him entirely.

Town right now loses NOTHING by lynching Sev. If he flips red, we immediately know who to go after next, i.e. the people defending him, or the people trying to get someone else lynched first. If he flips green, we can target the ones who have most aggressively tried to get him lynched. Its a win-win situation.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
August 20 2011 19:56 GMT
#485
##vote Mig

I agree with Foolishness. Even more so since after Foolishness' vote for you, you've posted once and then went completely quiet. What's up MIG?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
August 20 2011 19:58 GMT
#486
I have already stated why I made the posts that I did and my reasons for voting this will be my last defense post as I will be trying to do some analysis to help out you guys once i am lynched. so im going to go read the like 6-7 pages i missed and then i shall make another post with my vote.
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
August 20 2011 20:13 GMT
#487

Rayzorflash im calling you out.
Most of his posts before I become the lynch target are speculation on what mafia would or would not want and i view this is as slightly scummy.
Then he ninja votes on me and when called out
On August 20 2011 01:40 RayzorFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 01:07 Sevryn wrote:
Nice stealth vote ray


Your post seemed like obvious scum to me, the scummiest post so far, and I will most likely be away for the rest of the day so I put in a vote against you... I'll check back later and see if I have to change it, but I doubt if I will :p

and then this last post
On August 21 2011 04:55 RayzorFlash wrote:
Town right now loses NOTHING by lynching Sev. If he flips red, we immediately know who to go after next, i.e. the people defending him, or the people trying to get someone else lynched first. If he flips green, we can target the ones who have most aggressively tried to get him lynched. Its a win-win situation.

Yes you do lose something you lose a townie when i flip green and going after the people who most aggressively tried to get me lynched is all WIFOM.


Also MIG just from his meta he has normally caught the entire scum team by now yet hes nowhere to be found.
##vote RayzorFlash
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
August 20 2011 20:34 GMT
#488
Man this is a touch choice
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
August 20 2011 20:37 GMT
#489
On August 21 2011 05:13 Sevryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 04:55 RayzorFlash wrote:
Town right now loses NOTHING by lynching Sev. If he flips red, we immediately know who to go after next, i.e. the people defending him, or the people trying to get someone else lynched first. If he flips green, we can target the ones who have most aggressively tried to get him lynched. Its a win-win situation.

Yes you do lose something you lose a townie when i flip green and going after the people who most aggressively tried to get me lynched is all WIFOM.

To be fair, I sort of agree with this. Kudos to Rayzor for pointing out supersoft's witchhunt but this statement was ridiculous. Mafia is unlikely to go so aggressively against a townie and by encouraging us to go after Sevryn's most vicious accusers in case he is innocent, he might secure another town lynch. Especially considering that Sevryn did get himself into a mess of his own... It's not like someone fabricated it all.

So, in case Sevryn turns out to be a townie after the lynch, Rayzor is a good lead, and if Sevryn is indeed mafia, Rayzor is probably clean.

Also, I am not convinced that Supersoft is mafia. In my opinion he is just too anxious to prove himself and is just all over the place. So, if Sevryn is a townie, I'd be inclined to believe in Supersoft's innocence.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
August 20 2011 20:38 GMT
#490
I think BrownBear is an excellent lead.

He's like got an actual analysis against him! How about that?
Computer says mafia
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 20 2011 20:44 GMT
#491
Ok guys I'd like to say I think Foolishness is scum (again) here is my original post

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On August 20 2011 08:40 Trotske wrote:
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On August 20 2011 08:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
oh, forgot to add:

## vote Sevyrn

defend yourself, scum.


I agree I think Sevryn is looking pretty scummy but I am curious what you guys think about Foolishness this is his one post after the game started.

Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 05:00 Foolishness wrote:
##Vote: DropBear for Mayor


he agree's with dropbears mayor plan which gives one person the power to decide between tow people and chooses someone who hasn't been acting super pro town. This scream scummy to me, inactive and then comes in with a single line to vote on a not very town plan imo.

so until he defends himself some more i'm goign to vote sevryn but foolishness needs to post something more or I am going to start pushing for his lynch.




QuickSilver7 pointed out how this was scummy of me to say I Think foolishness is scum and then vote for sevryn but the fact is this is a majority lynch system the fact that sevryn looks scummy and has the most votes on him is enough to vote for him unless more people agreed with me but he is the only one who seemed to read my post.

The next page after I made my post calling Foolishness inactive he posts quite a few times while not addressing my post at all. Most of his posts are taking a very on the fence position. accusing quite a few people of being scum but yet he's not so sure sevryn is. This feels like he is trying to distance himself from Sevryn.

I think foolishness is a great target for the next lynch.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 20 2011 20:44 GMT
#492
On August 21 2011 05:34 Foolishness wrote:
Man this is a touch choice

Which choice is that?

I'm unvoting Sevryn. As I previously stated he has not set off any bells with what he had posted but by his disappearance.

How much time is remaining?
Life can only kill you once.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
August 20 2011 20:45 GMT
#493
On August 21 2011 05:44 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 05:34 Foolishness wrote:
Man this is a touch choice

Which choice is that?

I'm unvoting Sevryn. As I previously stated he has not set off any bells with what he had posted but by his disappearance.

How much time is remaining?


btw, you need to re-read my posts assuming I'm not scum, and then realize I'm right.
Computer says mafia
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
August 20 2011 20:54 GMT
#494
On August 21 2011 05:44 Trotske wrote:
The next page after I made my post calling Foolishness inactive he posts quite a few times while not addressing my post at all.

Your post was stupid. DropBear's campaign for mayor is something worth analysing but it's not like it was going to happen, ever. Foolishness was simply acting funny.
If you want to go against Foolishness, don't base your post around such a worthless argument.


Also, Supersoft, after crying out about how I was avoiding casting my vote for Sevryn, we are facing the possibility of a non-linch due to you (and Jackal) unvoting.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
August 20 2011 20:55 GMT
#495
On August 21 2011 05:44 Trotske wrote:
Ok guys I'd like to say I think Foolishness is scum (again) here is my original post

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On August 20 2011 08:40 Trotske wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 08:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
oh, forgot to add:

## vote Sevyrn

defend yourself, scum.


I agree I think Sevryn is looking pretty scummy but I am curious what you guys think about Foolishness this is his one post after the game started.

Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 05:00 Foolishness wrote:
##Vote: DropBear for Mayor


he agree's with dropbears mayor plan which gives one person the power to decide between tow people and chooses someone who hasn't been acting super pro town. This scream scummy to me, inactive and then comes in with a single line to vote on a not very town plan imo.

so until he defends himself some more i'm goign to vote sevryn but foolishness needs to post something more or I am going to start pushing for his lynch.




QuickSilver7 pointed out how this was scummy of me to say I Think foolishness is scum and then vote for sevryn but the fact is this is a majority lynch system the fact that sevryn looks scummy and has the most votes on him is enough to vote for him unless more people agreed with me but he is the only one who seemed to read my post.

The next page after I made my post calling Foolishness inactive he posts quite a few times while not addressing my post at all. Most of his posts are taking a very on the fence position. accusing quite a few people of being scum but yet he's not so sure sevryn is. This feels like he is trying to distance himself from Sevryn.

I think foolishness is a great target for the next lynch.

There was nothing to respond to from your original post that would have just been fluff and a waste of time for the town. You called me inactive and now I'm here posting. What more do you want?

Where are the "quite of a few people of being scum"? I didn't like the Sevryn lynch of any of the other candidates (the bears, Palmar, etc) so I proposed my own lynch because Mig made a bad post. If you can find the post I made I'd appreciate it.

Mig accused me of defending Sevryn. You are accusing me of distancing myself from Sevryn. Make up your mind people. I stated my reasons why I don't like the Sevryn lynch by bringing a new perspective to the table. I'd rather lynch Sevryn than nobody of course, but that doesn't mean I'm going to just sit and let it happen.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
August 20 2011 20:55 GMT
#496
On August 21 2011 05:54 xtfftc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 05:44 Trotske wrote:
The next page after I made my post calling Foolishness inactive he posts quite a few times while not addressing my post at all.

Your post was stupid. DropBear's campaign for mayor is something worth analysing but it's not like it was going to happen, ever. Foolishness was simply acting funny.
If you want to go against Foolishness, don't base your post around such a worthless argument.


Also, Supersoft, after crying out about how I was avoiding casting my vote for Sevryn, we are facing the possibility of a non-linch due to you (and Jackal) unvoting.

I actually thought DropBear's mayor thing was a good idea.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 20 2011 20:57 GMT
#497
On August 15 2011 04:58 RayzorFlash wrote:
/in ... My first Mafia game, but I've been doing the research and it seems fun :D


Somebody is being coached.

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 19 2011 09:44 RayzorFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 09:37 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:34 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:32 ghrur wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:31 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:02 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 08:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lol da eff?

I think the whole "single out kurumi" is pretty funny. He's "annoying"=lynch lol.

I'm sure there'll be clues to help us identify scum pretty quickly as people post.

See, I am like "ok guys if You're clever enough I won't troll!"
Then Mig fails his test.
Navillus.
Here's one for You!
If You answer this correctly, I won't troll this game.

You are in a room with three doors. The walls are sturdy and cold. You have full pack of dry lights. Scratching light against the pack will ignite it. How will You get out of here?
Door 1:
It has a very small window You can't see through, it's kind of foggy.
Door 2:
It has little opening in the lower bottom.
Door 3:
It's like one solid block.


ooh ooh give me one!!


There are 6 mafia in a town of thirty.
Here is the discussion of the thirty people.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174
Find all mafia.


jackal, xfftc, poncho, foolishness, nard and palmar.
that was easy, I wanted a hard one

JeeJee I understand You like riddles, but could You say something about Navillus? He has the biggest posts in the thread and there are couple of them. I'd like to know what do You think about him.


It does seem highly strange and suspicious that in a game full of lurkers, he's gone above and beyond to draw attention to himself...




On August 19 2011 09:56 RayzorFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 09:48 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:46 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:42 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:37 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:34 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:32 ghrur wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:31 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:02 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 08:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lol da eff?

I think the whole "single out kurumi" is pretty funny. He's "annoying"=lynch lol.

I'm sure there'll be clues to help us identify scum pretty quickly as people post.

See, I am like "ok guys if You're clever enough I won't troll!"
Then Mig fails his test.
Navillus.
Here's one for You!
If You answer this correctly, I won't troll this game.

You are in a room with three doors. The walls are sturdy and cold. You have full pack of dry lights. Scratching light against the pack will ignite it. How will Yu get out of here?
Door 1:
It has a very small window You can't see through, it's kind of foggy.
Door 2:
It has little opening in the lower bottom.
Door 3:
It's like one solid block.


ooh ooh give me one!!


There are 6 mafia in a town of thirty.
Here is the discussion of the thirty people.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174
Find all mafia.


jackal, xfftc, poncho, foolishness, nard and palmar.
that was easy, I wanted a hard one

JeeJee I understand You like riddles, but could You say something about Navillus? He has the biggest posts in the thread and there are couple of them. I'd like to know what do You think about him.


Just re-read hist posts.. he's using lots of words to basically say kill lurkers. Complete null-read, everyone of any alignment will agree to this. When he starts contributing opinions on players, we'll see.

So You admitted that Navillus is only posting fluff so he looks like he is contributing without contributing? "everyone of any alignment" part is budging me.


Yep, but what else are you gonna do in the beginning? Everything starts from fluff. If fluff continues, it's a different story of course.
P.S. would totally appreciate it if you stopped capitalizing 'you'

On August 19 2011 09:44 RayzorFlash wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:37 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:34 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:32 ghrur wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:31 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:02 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 08:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lol da eff?

I think the whole "single out kurumi" is pretty funny. He's "annoying"=lynch lol.

I'm sure there'll be clues to help us identify scum pretty quickly as people post.

See, I am like "ok guys if You're clever enough I won't troll!"
Then Mig fails his test.
Navillus.
Here's one for You!
If You answer this correctly, I won't troll this game.

You are in a room with three doors. The walls are sturdy and cold. You have full pack of dry lights. Scratching light against the pack will ignite it. How will You get out of here?
Door 1:
It has a very small window You can't see through, it's kind of foggy.
Door 2:
It has little opening in the lower bottom.
Door 3:
It's like one solid block.


ooh ooh give me one!!


There are 6 mafia in a town of thirty.
Here is the discussion of the thirty people.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174
Find all mafia.


jackal, xfftc, poncho, foolishness, nard and palmar.
that was easy, I wanted a hard one

JeeJee I understand You like riddles, but could You say something about Navillus? He has the biggest posts in the thread and there are couple of them. I'd like to know what do You think about him.


It does seem highly strange and suspicious that in a game full of lurkers, he's gone above and beyond to draw attention to himself...


how so?


It would be very easy for scum to abide by the "three post a day" criteria if they wanted to... I just don't think it would be that effective, because just based on the sheer number of new people, and the ratio of scum-to-townie, there are inevitably going to be a lot of townies in the lurker list, and wasting town KPs on them would only make it easier for the scum...




On August 19 2011 13:42 RayzorFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 12:00 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:56 RayzorFlash wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:48 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:46 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:42 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:37 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:34 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:32 ghrur wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:31 JeeJee wrote:
[quote]

ooh ooh give me one!!


There are 6 mafia in a town of thirty.
Here is the discussion of the thirty people.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174
Find all mafia.


jackal, xfftc, poncho, foolishness, nard and palmar.
that was easy, I wanted a hard one

JeeJee I understand You like riddles, but could You say something about Navillus? He has the biggest posts in the thread and there are couple of them. I'd like to know what do You think about him.


Just re-read hist posts.. he's using lots of words to basically say kill lurkers. Complete null-read, everyone of any alignment will agree to this. When he starts contributing opinions on players, we'll see.

So You admitted that Navillus is only posting fluff so he looks like he is contributing without contributing? "everyone of any alignment" part is budging me.


Yep, but what else are you gonna do in the beginning? Everything starts from fluff. If fluff continues, it's a different story of course.
P.S. would totally appreciate it if you stopped capitalizing 'you'

On August 19 2011 09:44 RayzorFlash wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:37 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:34 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:32 ghrur wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:31 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:02 Kurumi wrote:
[quote]
See, I am like "ok guys if You're clever enough I won't troll!"
Then Mig fails his test.
Navillus.
Here's one for You!
If You answer this correctly, I won't troll this game.

You are in a room with three doors. The walls are sturdy and cold. You have full pack of dry lights. Scratching light against the pack will ignite it. How will You get out of here?
Door 1:
It has a very small window You can't see through, it's kind of foggy.
Door 2:
It has little opening in the lower bottom.
Door 3:
It's like one solid block.


ooh ooh give me one!!


There are 6 mafia in a town of thirty.
Here is the discussion of the thirty people.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174
Find all mafia.


jackal, xfftc, poncho, foolishness, nard and palmar.
that was easy, I wanted a hard one

JeeJee I understand You like riddles, but could You say something about Navillus? He has the biggest posts in the thread and there are couple of them. I'd like to know what do You think about him.


It does seem highly strange and suspicious that in a game full of lurkers, he's gone above and beyond to draw attention to himself...


how so?


It would be very easy for scum to abide by the "three post a day" criteria if they wanted to... I just don't think it would be that effective, because just based on the sheer number of new people, and the ratio of scum-to-townie, there are inevitably going to be a lot of townies in the lurker list, and wasting town KPs on them would only make it easier for the scum...


What does this have to do with what I asked you? I asked you why you think navi's actions are highly strange and suspicious?

And there shouldn't be "inevitably .. a lot of townies in the lurker list", why would there be? Are you going to lurk?

And why did you call this game full of lurkers?

Wtf this post just raised so many questions


I said in my previous post how having us waste KPs on lurkers would further scum agenda, and thats why I think the actions seem suspicious, especially considering that we know there are a lot of new players here, and scum do too.

New players generally have more a tendency to lurk, or become inactive, and thus, if we put together a lurker list, there WILL be a fairly large amount of people on it. This is especially true if they're townies or blues, as if they're mafia they will try their hardest to stay OFF that list...

I think its NOT a good idea to just declare that everyone start killing off lurkers, unless there is actually a REASON to kill them, not just because they're lurking. Its a double-edged sword for sure, it does make the cultists come out and have to participate, which might reveal them, but it also runs the risk of killing a lot of townies...

If we want to put together a lurker list, by all means do it, I just hope we exercise a little bit of restraint and use the kills given good reasons, since we don't want to make this EASIER for the mafia



On August 20 2011 01:40 RayzorFlash wrote:
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On August 20 2011 01:07 Sevryn wrote:
Nice stealth vote ray


Your post seemed like obvious scum to me, the scummiest post so far, and I will most likely be away for the rest of the day so I put in a vote against you... I'll check back later and see if I have to change it, but I doubt if I will :p



On August 20 2011 13:32 RayzorFlash wrote:
I'm sticking with my vote on Sevryn unless something ridiculously obvious jumps out in the next 24 hours... I think by far that he has had the scummiest behaviour, both in terms of the vote, and then the defensive roll-back after he was called out on it...

I'm hesitant on Palmar just because he's been creating a far from ideal first Day in here... He contributed the main talking point sure, but his argument for that talking point was very weak... However, Dropbear has definitely acted a bit suspicious and got overly defensive, and the mayor idea seems scummy because he recommended himself for it right off the bat...

Those 3 seem like the major suspects this first day... I think (at least) ONE of Palmar or DropBear is definitely a scum, and if we start nearing a majority on either of them I will switch my vote from Sevryn and get him at a later date... I am most definitely voting for one of those 3 though



On August 21 2011 04:55 RayzorFlash wrote:
Supersoft, you seem to be trying wayyyy too hard to get Sevryn not lynched... Since the start you've tried putting up 3-4 different reasons to direct the vote away from Sevryn, first with a weak defense, then when called out on the defense being wishywashy, you quickly backtracked on it and said that you were just pointing out how anyone could have done that, and immediately started pressuring Xtfftc.

While Xtfftc has definitely acted suspiciously, I see it as more suspicious that you (and Palmar, to a degree) were the two who along with Sevryn caused the pressure-vote issue at the start of the game anyway, and that you (and Palmar, to a degree ) are working so hard to get attention away from Sevryn and on to other people.

At this point, I would expect scum to just leave Sev to defend himself since they wouldnt want to get caught defending him, and try to either set-up a subsequent lynch away from them, or try to redirect attention away from him entirely.

Town right now loses NOTHING by lynching Sev. If he flips red, we immediately know who to go after next, i.e. the people defending him, or the people trying to get someone else lynched first. If he flips green, we can target the ones who have most aggressively tried to get him lynched. Its a win-win situation.

Life can only kill you once.
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
August 20 2011 21:02 GMT
#498
On August 21 2011 05:13 Sevryn wrote:

Rayzorflash im calling you out.
Most of his posts before I become the lynch target are speculation on what mafia would or would not want and i view this is as slightly scummy.
Then he ninja votes on me and when called out
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On August 20 2011 01:40 RayzorFlash wrote:
On August 20 2011 01:07 Sevryn wrote:
Nice stealth vote ray


Your post seemed like obvious scum to me, the scummiest post so far, and I will most likely be away for the rest of the day so I put in a vote against you... I'll check back later and see if I have to change it, but I doubt if I will :p



My stealth vote for you was what an actual pressure vote looks like. All of a sudden, the pressure on you made you get all defensive and even pull your vote off DropBear. I'd say it was quite successful in exposing scummy behavior.

On August 21 2011 05:13 Sevryn wrote:

Yes you do lose something you lose a townie when i flip green and going after the people who most aggressively tried to get me lynched is all WIFOM.


We lose a townie who has, for the entire first day contributed absolutely nothing towards discussion except a really scummy first accusation, and since then has just focused on defending himself? I don't think that's losing too much.
(OOC: What does WIFOM mean??)


On August 21 2011 05:37 xtfftc wrote:

To be fair, I sort of agree with this. Kudos to Rayzor for pointing out supersoft's witchhunt but this statement was ridiculous. Mafia is unlikely to go so aggressively against a townie and by encouraging us to go after Sevryn's most vicious accusers in case he is innocent, he might secure another town lynch. Especially considering that Sevryn did get himself into a mess of his own... It's not like someone fabricated it all.

So, in case Sevryn turns out to be a townie after the lynch, Rayzor is a good lead, and if Sevryn is indeed mafia, Rayzor is probably clean.


Sure, I'll gladly take the fall if Sev proves to be green, but I don't think there was anything scummy at all about my post. I think it would be good leads to go after anyone aggressively pushing for Sev if he's green, and I know i'm included in that list :S.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 20 2011 21:04 GMT
#499
Ask your scum buddies
Life can only kill you once.
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
August 20 2011 21:06 GMT
#500
On August 21 2011 06:02 RayzorFlash wrote:
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On August 21 2011 05:13 Sevryn wrote:

Rayzorflash im calling you out.
Most of his posts before I become the lynch target are speculation on what mafia would or would not want and i view this is as slightly scummy.
Then he ninja votes on me and when called out
On August 20 2011 01:40 RayzorFlash wrote:
On August 20 2011 01:07 Sevryn wrote:
Nice stealth vote ray


Your post seemed like obvious scum to me, the scummiest post so far, and I will most likely be away for the rest of the day so I put in a vote against you... I'll check back later and see if I have to change it, but I doubt if I will :p



My stealth vote for you was what an actual pressure vote looks like. All of a sudden, the pressure on you made you get all defensive and even pull your vote off DropBear. I'd say it was quite successful in exposing scummy behavior.

Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 05:13 Sevryn wrote:

Yes you do lose something you lose a townie when i flip green and going after the people who most aggressively tried to get me lynched is all WIFOM.


We lose a townie who has, for the entire first day contributed absolutely nothing towards discussion except a really scummy first accusation, and since then has just focused on defending himself? I don't think that's losing too much.
(OOC: What does WIFOM mean??)


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On August 21 2011 05:37 xtfftc wrote:

To be fair, I sort of agree with this. Kudos to Rayzor for pointing out supersoft's witchhunt but this statement was ridiculous. Mafia is unlikely to go so aggressively against a townie and by encouraging us to go after Sevryn's most vicious accusers in case he is innocent, he might secure another town lynch. Especially considering that Sevryn did get himself into a mess of his own... It's not like someone fabricated it all.

So, in case Sevryn turns out to be a townie after the lynch, Rayzor is a good lead, and if Sevryn is indeed mafia, Rayzor is probably clean.


Sure, I'll gladly take the fall if Sev proves to be green, but I don't think there was anything scummy at all about my post. I think it would be good leads to go after anyone aggressively pushing for Sev if he's green, and I know i'm included in that list :S.

Ah the age old argument of the guy who everyone is calling scum is defending himself "SUCH A SCUMMY MOVE"
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