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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 19 2011 02:56 GMT
#201
didn't I just say?

DB is scum.
Computer says mafia
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
August 19 2011 03:00 GMT
#202
On August 19 2011 09:56 RayzorFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 09:48 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:46 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:42 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:37 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:34 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:32 ghrur wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:31 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:02 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 08:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lol da eff?

I think the whole "single out kurumi" is pretty funny. He's "annoying"=lynch lol.

I'm sure there'll be clues to help us identify scum pretty quickly as people post.

See, I am like "ok guys if You're clever enough I won't troll!"
Then Mig fails his test.
Navillus.
Here's one for You!
If You answer this correctly, I won't troll this game.

You are in a room with three doors. The walls are sturdy and cold. You have full pack of dry lights. Scratching light against the pack will ignite it. How will Yu get out of here?
Door 1:
It has a very small window You can't see through, it's kind of foggy.
Door 2:
It has little opening in the lower bottom.
Door 3:
It's like one solid block.


ooh ooh give me one!!


There are 6 mafia in a town of thirty.
Here is the discussion of the thirty people.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174
Find all mafia.


jackal, xfftc, poncho, foolishness, nard and palmar.
that was easy, I wanted a hard one

JeeJee I understand You like riddles, but could You say something about Navillus? He has the biggest posts in the thread and there are couple of them. I'd like to know what do You think about him.


Just re-read hist posts.. he's using lots of words to basically say kill lurkers. Complete null-read, everyone of any alignment will agree to this. When he starts contributing opinions on players, we'll see.

So You admitted that Navillus is only posting fluff so he looks like he is contributing without contributing? "everyone of any alignment" part is budging me.


Yep, but what else are you gonna do in the beginning? Everything starts from fluff. If fluff continues, it's a different story of course.
P.S. would totally appreciate it if you stopped capitalizing 'you'

On August 19 2011 09:44 RayzorFlash wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:37 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:34 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:32 ghrur wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:31 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:02 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 08:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lol da eff?

I think the whole "single out kurumi" is pretty funny. He's "annoying"=lynch lol.

I'm sure there'll be clues to help us identify scum pretty quickly as people post.

See, I am like "ok guys if You're clever enough I won't troll!"
Then Mig fails his test.
Navillus.
Here's one for You!
If You answer this correctly, I won't troll this game.

You are in a room with three doors. The walls are sturdy and cold. You have full pack of dry lights. Scratching light against the pack will ignite it. How will You get out of here?
Door 1:
It has a very small window You can't see through, it's kind of foggy.
Door 2:
It has little opening in the lower bottom.
Door 3:
It's like one solid block.


ooh ooh give me one!!


There are 6 mafia in a town of thirty.
Here is the discussion of the thirty people.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174
Find all mafia.


jackal, xfftc, poncho, foolishness, nard and palmar.
that was easy, I wanted a hard one

JeeJee I understand You like riddles, but could You say something about Navillus? He has the biggest posts in the thread and there are couple of them. I'd like to know what do You think about him.


It does seem highly strange and suspicious that in a game full of lurkers, he's gone above and beyond to draw attention to himself...


how so?


It would be very easy for scum to abide by the "three post a day" criteria if they wanted to... I just don't think it would be that effective, because just based on the sheer number of new people, and the ratio of scum-to-townie, there are inevitably going to be a lot of townies in the lurker list, and wasting town KPs on them would only make it easier for the scum...


What does this have to do with what I asked you? I asked you why you think navi's actions are highly strange and suspicious?

And there shouldn't be "inevitably .. a lot of townies in the lurker list", why would there be? Are you going to lurk?

And why did you call this game full of lurkers?

Wtf this post just raised so many questions
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 19 2011 03:03 GMT
#203
Going to bed guys, as I said earlier I will be unavailible for most of tomorrow, but will catch up that night.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
August 19 2011 03:58 GMT
#204
to be quite honest i completely skipped Navillus' wall of text. As always, i think we should declare an open season against lurkers. If scum lurk, they die. Period.

why is kenpachi smurfing as lucidity?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
RayzorFlash
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada253 Posts
August 19 2011 04:42 GMT
#205
On August 19 2011 12:00 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 09:56 RayzorFlash wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:48 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:46 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:42 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:37 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:34 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:32 ghrur wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:31 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:02 Kurumi wrote:
[quote]
See, I am like "ok guys if You're clever enough I won't troll!"
Then Mig fails his test.
Navillus.
Here's one for You!
If You answer this correctly, I won't troll this game.

You are in a room with three doors. The walls are sturdy and cold. You have full pack of dry lights. Scratching light against the pack will ignite it. How will Yu get out of here?
Door 1:
It has a very small window You can't see through, it's kind of foggy.
Door 2:
It has little opening in the lower bottom.
Door 3:
It's like one solid block.


ooh ooh give me one!!


There are 6 mafia in a town of thirty.
Here is the discussion of the thirty people.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174
Find all mafia.


jackal, xfftc, poncho, foolishness, nard and palmar.
that was easy, I wanted a hard one

JeeJee I understand You like riddles, but could You say something about Navillus? He has the biggest posts in the thread and there are couple of them. I'd like to know what do You think about him.


Just re-read hist posts.. he's using lots of words to basically say kill lurkers. Complete null-read, everyone of any alignment will agree to this. When he starts contributing opinions on players, we'll see.

So You admitted that Navillus is only posting fluff so he looks like he is contributing without contributing? "everyone of any alignment" part is budging me.


Yep, but what else are you gonna do in the beginning? Everything starts from fluff. If fluff continues, it's a different story of course.
P.S. would totally appreciate it if you stopped capitalizing 'you'

On August 19 2011 09:44 RayzorFlash wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:37 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:34 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:32 ghrur wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:31 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:02 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 08:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lol da eff?

I think the whole "single out kurumi" is pretty funny. He's "annoying"=lynch lol.

I'm sure there'll be clues to help us identify scum pretty quickly as people post.

See, I am like "ok guys if You're clever enough I won't troll!"
Then Mig fails his test.
Navillus.
Here's one for You!
If You answer this correctly, I won't troll this game.

You are in a room with three doors. The walls are sturdy and cold. You have full pack of dry lights. Scratching light against the pack will ignite it. How will You get out of here?
Door 1:
It has a very small window You can't see through, it's kind of foggy.
Door 2:
It has little opening in the lower bottom.
Door 3:
It's like one solid block.


ooh ooh give me one!!


There are 6 mafia in a town of thirty.
Here is the discussion of the thirty people.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174
Find all mafia.


jackal, xfftc, poncho, foolishness, nard and palmar.
that was easy, I wanted a hard one

JeeJee I understand You like riddles, but could You say something about Navillus? He has the biggest posts in the thread and there are couple of them. I'd like to know what do You think about him.


It does seem highly strange and suspicious that in a game full of lurkers, he's gone above and beyond to draw attention to himself...


how so?


It would be very easy for scum to abide by the "three post a day" criteria if they wanted to... I just don't think it would be that effective, because just based on the sheer number of new people, and the ratio of scum-to-townie, there are inevitably going to be a lot of townies in the lurker list, and wasting town KPs on them would only make it easier for the scum...


What does this have to do with what I asked you? I asked you why you think navi's actions are highly strange and suspicious?

And there shouldn't be "inevitably .. a lot of townies in the lurker list", why would there be? Are you going to lurk?

And why did you call this game full of lurkers?

Wtf this post just raised so many questions


I said in my previous post how having us waste KPs on lurkers would further scum agenda, and thats why I think the actions seem suspicious, especially considering that we know there are a lot of new players here, and scum do too.

New players generally have more a tendency to lurk, or become inactive, and thus, if we put together a lurker list, there WILL be a fairly large amount of people on it. This is especially true if they're townies or blues, as if they're mafia they will try their hardest to stay OFF that list...

I think its NOT a good idea to just declare that everyone start killing off lurkers, unless there is actually a REASON to kill them, not just because they're lurking. Its a double-edged sword for sure, it does make the cultists come out and have to participate, which might reveal them, but it also runs the risk of killing a lot of townies...

If we want to put together a lurker list, by all means do it, I just hope we exercise a little bit of restraint and use the kills given good reasons, since we don't want to make this EASIER for the mafia
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
August 19 2011 04:50 GMT
#206
On August 19 2011 09:32 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 09:31 JeeJee wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:02 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 08:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lol da eff?

I think the whole "single out kurumi" is pretty funny. He's "annoying"=lynch lol.

I'm sure there'll be clues to help us identify scum pretty quickly as people post.

See, I am like "ok guys if You're clever enough I won't troll!"
Then Mig fails his test.
Navillus.
Here's one for You!
If You answer this correctly, I won't troll this game.

You are in a room with three doors. The walls are sturdy and cold. You have full pack of dry lights. Scratching light against the pack will ignite it. How will You get out of here?
Door 1:
It has a very small window You can't see through, it's kind of foggy.
Door 2:
It has little opening in the lower bottom.
Door 3:
It's like one solid block.


ooh ooh give me one!!

If Navillus answers incorrectly or does not respond till 9:45 KST You can answer it.


This crap should not be allowed... if he continues it I'll be happy to join along and vote for Kurumi.


@ Navillus: In general, I have a strong suspicion of people who open up games with long policy posts - yeah it might be a null read, but they're a great way for mafia to establish town cred. The part that I find very troubling about declaring that you'll be the official lurker-tracker is that being a lurker tracker is an easy way for a mafia to maintain post counts and "contribute" without really contributing.
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
August 19 2011 04:51 GMT
#207
this game started all ready?

Palmar is scum.

See you in the morning!
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
QuickSilver7
Profile Joined May 2011
Russian Federation69 Posts
August 19 2011 04:52 GMT
#208
Hi guys, just read the thread and here are my thoughts :D

Kurumi's spam, while annoying, isn't lynch worthy at the moment. The reason for this is that it seems unlikely a scum team would let one of their members go crazy like that.

I like Navillus's lurker policy, particularly this post:
On August 19 2011 09:23 Navillus wrote:
No Kurumi I'm saying Town KP should shoot lurkers period, the reason I'm saying it's not feasible to get every lurker killed is a combination of there being many lurkers, limited town KP, and I'm not dumb enough to say lurkers should be the top priority kills, just good options at any time. If I had my way we would kill every lurker. Now like you said good scum will not lurk, I'm fine with this because we will be able to get reads on them, there it just becomes a fight between analysis and clever scum play which I'm much happier with than the crapshoot of a dozen lurkers who you can't get a read on. Now with the active lurkers they will either talk enough that we do get reads on them, or end up on the list for talking but not contributing, assuming I make it the list correctly.


This is pretty protown stuff here imo. I have a generally feeling that the game has been active enough so far so I'm not overly worried about lurkers for now but Navillus's policy is good if we develope lurker infestation. Oh but real quick Navillus, lurker lists are good but Kurumi was right when he said they can be a form of contributing without contributing, make your lists but make sure you analyize the information you find.

JeeJee you're trolling and not contributing. All your posts can be simplified down to "you can't do anything until people contribute so just sit back until people contribute." This is a great way kill discussion as everyone will just sit back and wait for everyone else to contribute. I understand you may not feel like there's anything out there but this becomes a tragedy of the commons situation, if one person doesn't contribute because they're waiting for others to contribute, others will start waiting and not working as well, thus dragging the town down.

xtfftc has been trolling too.

Yo Palmar, care to clarify this?
On August 19 2011 11:56 Palmar wrote:
didn't I just say?

DB is scum.


Varpulis, you gotta do better than this:
On August 19 2011 12:58 Varpulis wrote:
to be quite honest i completely skipped Navillus' wall of text. As always, i think we should declare an open season against lurkers. If scum lurk, they die. Period.

why is kenpachi smurfing as lucidity?

This is your one post in the thread -_-. Pl0x contribute and such.

Lots of notable names inactive or just trolling, however I do like the fact that discussion has involved more than just three people screaming at each other. If the vets get their asses in gear and a few more lurkers join the party then we'll have a fairly active town (at least by TL standards).

Will try and have an analysis or two up in the next 14 hours if the thread is active enough to provide info (and JeeJee, I'll be here to try and make it active. Even though I don't have enough information to analyze someone yet, as a townie it's my job to create a thread environment that is conducive to productive town. This is what you should be doing rather than complaining about lack of info).

hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
August 19 2011 04:54 GMT
#209
QuickSilver7 gets my vote for best opening post.
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
QuickSilver7
Profile Joined May 2011
Russian Federation69 Posts
August 19 2011 04:54 GMT
#210
On August 19 2011 13:51 hiro protagonist wrote:
this game started all ready?

Palmar is scum.

See you in the morning!

The hell is this? People, try and at least contribute Something if you're gonna come barging in and make statements like this.

Or stop trolling if that's what you're doing.
QuickSilver7
Profile Joined May 2011
Russian Federation69 Posts
August 19 2011 04:55 GMT
#211
On August 19 2011 13:54 hiro protagonist wrote:
QuickSilver7 gets my vote for best opening post.

especially when compared with your gem -_-
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
August 19 2011 04:59 GMT
#212
your right, I was Trolling.
I Was just joining in the fun that was the first few pages of this thread.
Be sure that the rest of my posts will look like your first one did.
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
August 19 2011 05:08 GMT
#213
quicksilver, what should i say, praytell? I came late to the party, all of the basic guidelines and stuff had already been said. saying that i agree with loads of people is a waste of my time and yours because they're all saying the same stuff. The "pro town" stuff that Navillus has been saying has been said, in some variation, many times before, by both town and scum.

a post doesn't have to be huge to make a point. Please be concise, everybody.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 19 2011 06:08 GMT
#214
Either the whole guidelines for new players is a plea for noobs to not suck or it's a cover for being scum.

Why should we believe that those guidelines are being posted for the benefit of the new players? The new players can just read all of that stuff in the mafia resources stickies.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 19 2011 06:15 GMT
#215
On August 19 2011 13:54 QuickSilver7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 13:51 hiro protagonist wrote:
this game started all ready?

Palmar is scum.

See you in the morning!

The hell is this? People, try and at least contribute Something if you're gonna come barging in and make statements like this.

Or stop trolling if that's what you're doing.


Dude, it's the first few pages. Relax. He's obviously just joking around.
SUNSFANNED
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
August 19 2011 07:37 GMT
#216
Oh jesus the game started
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
August 19 2011 08:40 GMT
#217
ah well, it's not a big deal if everyone trolls at the beginning of the game. Also huge sum-up posts are not necessary... everyone should read the thread on his own.
We need 2 lynchcandidates and we should have them in about 12 hours. We get them by pressuring people and see who defends them etc. If we have one mafiaguy amongst them, we got this game, because mafia tends to be stupid and defends each other, while a townie will get beaten up by everyone if he acts suspicious by accident.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
August 19 2011 08:50 GMT
#218
hmm i thought about putting my vote on navillus, because of his attack on kurumi.
at that point of the game, almost everyone trolled around and everyone knows that kurumi won't stop trolling if you vote on him... Don't know... seems suspicious to me.
I mean, it's easy to accuse kurumi and pretend to be the "angry townie" who wants to have everyone scumhunting seriously etc.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 19 2011 09:00 GMT
#219
how about putting your vote on dropbear?

##Vote DropBear
Computer says mafia
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
August 19 2011 09:04 GMT
#220
Erandorr
nard
Munk-E
Vain
Sevryn
darkponcho

are our lurkers right now. I love making lists.
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