• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 02:55
CET 08:55
KST 16:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT8Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0224LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker15
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game?
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Team League Season 10 PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea Ladder maps - how we can make blizz update them? TvZ is the most complete match up Brood War inspired Terran vs Zerg cinematic – feed Which units you wish saw more use in the game?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread ZeroSpace Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Corso Formazione Insegnanti Yoga What Game makes you happy and stress free?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Search For Meaning in Vi…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2662 users

TL Mafia L

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
August 12 2011 01:26 GMT
#7
If L is in then I am too. Someone contact Ace and Bill Murray.
Cheese is good for you!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 12 2012 06:09 GMT
#362
On January 12 2012 14:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Flamewheel look at your thread, can't you see it's dying to go?


This is an excellent point. Let me do my part to help.

/in
Cheese is good for you!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 13 2012 03:01 GMT
#423
Neat. Change the game around after it's too late to leave.
Cheese is good for you!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 13 2012 08:47 GMT
#500
Some quick observations from me.

I don't like bumatlarge at all. First he is unable to check the first post to see if he is actually able to vote for himself or not. I also don't like how he says he really easy to read. Finally, I really don't like how he's asked multiple times for the masons to mason him.

Sandroba also draws suspicion for putting up the "I'm bad at scum" defense. Also seems really unfamiliar with the whole election process when I'm pretty sure he's played in several games with elections. I'd have to check on that one, but I'm sure he'll just answer it himself.

I gotta question Mr. Wiggles for suggesting that a Godfather would run for office and then drop out early.

But I'll just sit back for now and see who else is going to run by the time I wake up tomorrow.
Cheese is good for you!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 13 2012 08:50 GMT
#501
Also why are so many people doing the /confirm thing? That's not in the rules at all.
Cheese is good for you!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 13 2012 08:59 GMT
#504
I thought it was more to make sure people are still willing to play the game if the signup takes a long time. Apparently I posted on the first page way back in August, I don't remember that.

But whatever. It's not important to talk about and I regret even bringing it up now.
Cheese is good for you!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 13 2012 16:59 GMT
#593
I'm automatically suspicious of anyone who complains about something and then doesn't do anything to try and help the problem.

Just sayin'...
Cheese is good for you!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 13 2012 23:08 GMT
#790
So far most of the candidates haven't put a lot of effort into this game.

It should be noted, once again, that the GF is selected after the mayoral elections. Thus mafia can send whoever they want at the elected spots, and if any veteran or suspicious day 1 players get elected then they can put the GF on someone else.
Cheese is good for you!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 14 2012 06:02 GMT
#905
Sheth, if we've not given Palmar enough time yet, then how much time is needed? More importantly, who have we given enough time to instead?
Cheese is good for you!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 14 2012 07:02 GMT
#917
On January 14 2012 15:41 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 14:31 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
On January 14 2012 14:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=87086

bum I don't know what you see, but what about any of these posts has utility in any way shape or form for town?

In what world is Palmar "not 100% useless" in his current state?

None of his posts have breached one line and almost all of them have 0 content. He says Meapak is good, which isn't very helpful, he calls kita's (very valid concerns about his play, mind) dumb, he calls VE dumb and bad, he asks a noob how he knows his meta, and he wants to vote Protact because of a half-assed early game case on ciryandor.

If you seriously believe Palmar is not useless then I have to question your angle.


I feel like Palmar definitely hasn't been the most useless this day. Those who want to kill off Palmar based on his Meta should be waiting far past just day 1. I'm pretty sure everyone has had a day or two where they can't play much. Lynching Palmar at this point is like lynching a lurker.

@WBG -- What do you think about what Protactinium has posted?

How do you feel about Protactinium's new lynch candidate - BC?

I think its far to early in the game to solidly go after BC. I don't think he's scum just for addressing our rather useless mason role in the way he and I discussed it. I feel the move was solidly pro-town, but I won't trust him still. I never trust BC, L, Incog, or RoL (as evidenced by my repeated murders of RoL). But as of this moment I think he's decently protown, he created a different discussion that needed to be discussed. I will not support any attempts at lynching him day one.

Also, we haven't heard from quite a few people on our list of players, most notably L. I also don't think d3 has posted either, which is rather poor to me.
As for Palmar, I'll admit I'm seeing a difference, but I've seen this same argument against Palmar a few times. Everyone seems to attack him if he doesn't do his usual posting for mayor or what not. I'd rather he contribute more than what he has. As of right now I find him a very viable lynch candidate.

Hi Scamp, how are you, sir? Do you mind gracing me with a few opinions? Like Foolishness pushing for multiple people for mayor, instead of himself?( I still find that the most weird thing about today.) And also Protactinium saying he'd lynch BC if elected - a change from ciryandor.


Well alright, but first I question your post.

Why did the role of mason need to be discussed? Especially combined with a roleclaim? How is that solidly pro-town?

Also, when is a good time to solidly go after BC? Why can't someone go after him on day 1, especially if they have a case to make, and especially since you claim to never trust him?


I'm not really opposed to the idea of Foolishness pushing for multiple people and not himself. Last time I checked I'm not running for mayor either, and we elect two people. I find it curious that no one seems to be discussing the usage of the two positions outside of the day 1 lynch, whereas talk about masons cluttered up the thread for a bunch of pages.

Finally I'm not really sure why you're asking my opinion on Protactinium going after BC. He posted a pretty verbose argument, you should go pick that apart if you don't like it. My opinion of it is that I think it's legit, but I don't know if it's mafia calling out a notable townie with suspicious behavior because of substandard play (a common mafia Ace tactic, and a good one if that) or if BC truly is mafia and has done a good job of leading the town down topics which aren't quite to the point.

I guess they could both be town, too. Highly unlikely that they're both mafia, though.
Cheese is good for you!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 14 2012 07:12 GMT
#919
On January 14 2012 16:08 Mattchew wrote:
foolishness would have stuck with only bill murray had I not mason'd him. Now he pushes for me and bill because to him I am safe.


With this post, you will not be getting my vote, unless you post something of substance really, really soon.
Cheese is good for you!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 14 2012 08:01 GMT
#946
Mattchew the important part of elected officials is the immunity. You want to get a real power player in that spot. For reference, see the game where the mafia team used all of their KP (I think they had three) just to kill Ace because he was such a force in that game. That's the kind of player you want to have immunity. Without that immunity, the best protection is some sort of 50/50 with the town medics, and you never know how reliable they are.

Also, y'know, the day 1 lynch is often a big deal.

Anyway, I actually like your last couple of posts and you've earned my vote.
Cheese is good for you!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 14 2012 12:24 GMT
#1008
Um, WBG, there hasn't really been any mason discussion for a while now.

I feel like the whole thread went back about 15 pages. Gotta figure out why.
Cheese is good for you!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 14 2012 23:50 GMT
#1329
Oh the irony.

I'm going to vote for L.

Also Protactinium you've contributed nothing except long-ass posts against BC. I wouldn't call that focused on finding mafia.
Cheese is good for you!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 15 2012 03:47 GMT
#1488
Going to sleep. If my instincts are right about Protact then this round of modkills is going to be awesome!
Cheese is good for you!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 16 2012 03:45 GMT
#1704
I was expecting a rash of modkills. I'm highly disappointed. Though the death of Ciryandor is nice.

Not really sure why WBG thinks he should still be talking right now.
Cheese is good for you!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 16 2012 04:11 GMT
#1715
Vigs can only shoot once.

But in a different way, I agree. It'd be a confirmed townie, but that info is pretty much useless.
Cheese is good for you!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 16 2012 04:33 GMT
#1721
On January 16 2012 13:24 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 12:45 Scamp wrote:
I was expecting a rash of modkills. I'm highly disappointed. Though the death of Ciryandor is nice.

Not really sure why WBG thinks he should still be talking right now.


Do you honestly believe that someone who is wrong about one lynch should just stop trying?


Trying? No. Playing the way WBG is playing? Yes.
Cheese is good for you!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 16 2012 06:04 GMT
#1732
On January 16 2012 13:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 12:45 Scamp wrote:
I was expecting a rash of modkills. I'm highly disappointed. Though the death of Ciryandor is nice.

Not really sure why WBG thinks he should still be talking right now.


lol

you've done a lot too this game, eh?

I might have been wrong but I'm not as useless as you are.


This is not a proper response and you know it. You also know better.

Besides, it was your own words that suggest that people won't want to listen to you. What changed your mind?



As for the double-lynch people are discussing right now, I don't think it's a good idea to use it right now. We're certainly going to want to use it in the future, but as of right now I don't see how it's necessary. The town is in a good spot right now. We have one scum down and five townies down. While technically that's a losing ratio it's also way better than what town is expected to be at at this point. On top of that we've only lost a mason and a vigilante, so in terms of power roles we're also doing very well.

Thus, we shouldn't be in any hurry to use the double-lynches so quickly. The later we use the double-lynches the better, because we'll have more information to go on at that point. Right now we lack solid leadership and information, and there's no guarantee that we'll have solid leads to go on by day three. Of course, there's never any guarantee that we'll have solid leads later in the game too. However, it is certainly true that it is much more likely to have better leads as the game goes on. Combine that with the fact that, again, the town is in a good spot right now and that means there's no reason to rush the double-lynch.
Cheese is good for you!
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 16 2012 08:12 GMT
#1740
On January 16 2012 16:11 Lanaia wrote:
49. Scamp - I'm neutral-leaning-scum on this guy.
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 12:45 Scamp wrote:
I was expecting a rash of modkills. I'm highly disappointed. Though the death of Ciryandor is nice.

Not really sure why WBG thinks he should still be talking right now.


I don't like that he was expecting it and was highly disappointed in it. Proportionately, it was more likely to see a lot of town in there. Him saying that ciry's death was nice felt a bit... unnatural. Also, is that bitterness I see towards WBG? Care to reiterate what you mean by the last line, scamp? How is he playing that is so bad to you?


Were you not expecting a bunch of modkills? I thought that everyone was expecting them.

And yes I have bitterness toward WBG. I don't like the way he plays. As for clarifying the last line, how about I let WBG do it himself.

On January 15 2012 16:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
the problem for me now, of course, is that no one is going to listen to me.


And later...

On January 16 2012 09:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
The thing about the Palmar flip is that it makes people like zeks, opz, and several others look bad. Lanaia looks bad as well; she has not commented on anything concrete and so far has had no scum reads. It looks rather similar to her play from XLVII.


He neglects to mention himself in all of this.

I'm not ready to make a full-blown case out of this but if you look at WBG's post history it would make a lot of sense if both he and BC are scum.
Cheese is good for you!
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 5m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft553
SortOf 58
StarCraft: Brood War
Larva 212
scan(afreeca) 66
GoRush 23
Shinee 21
Bale 18
Purpose 14
Sacsri 12
SilentControl 9
Dota 2
XaKoH 388
Counter-Strike
m0e_tv443
Stewie2K245
Other Games
summit1g8723
C9.Mang0407
Tasteless293
Liquid`RaSZi105
Mew2King96
Trikslyr25
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick876
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 48
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH206
• StrangeGG 47
• Gemini_19 21
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1304
• Stunt577
• HappyZerGling101
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
1h 5m
WardiTV Winter Champion…
4h 5m
Replay Cast
16h 5m
PiG Sty Festival
1d 1h
Maru vs Bunny
Classic vs SHIN
The PondCast
1d 2h
KCM Race Survival
1d 2h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 4h
OSC
1d 4h
Replay Cast
1d 16h
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Clem vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
[ Show More ]
Epic.LAN
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Epic.LAN
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-League Week 31
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026: China & Korea Invitational
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.