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Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 19:19 GMT
#2197
17 votes on macpo. the second best candidate has 2.

This is ridiculous.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 19:22 GMT
#2198
oh yeah. and the funny part is: he would have been modkilled either way. tadaaaaa
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 19:31 GMT
#2201
cheese, toad:

set a good example and unvote! maybe we can unite on someone to actually create a scecond lynch candidate? what are your thoughts?
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 20:01 GMT
#2206
On January 18 2012 04:51 Scamp wrote:
Jayjay is getting really annoying with his anti-Macpo lynch posts.

Can you please explain what information GGQ gets us as compared to Macpo? And correct me if I'm wrong but isn't he going to get modkilled too?

Not that we should expect modkills to do the work for us.


yea I guess we should all stay quiet. that'll help.

if GGQ flips red, Chaos is red, too. Since he's softdefend both GGQ and cyri. Also, there is basically no one (well, maybe me) saying don't lynch him, so if he really flips newb green, we don't get information, while on GGQ there at least has been a little discussion about him. Although, I'm sure that people like will probably tell that I'm if mac flips red. Looking forward to that.

GGQ already posted during this cycle.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 20:16 GMT
#2209
21 people didn't vote yet? how is that an arguement?

I don't go solely by information, there's a good case against him, prob better than the "he plays like a noob" macpo case. Plus the Chaos thing. He's an overall better package.

Whatever, lynch macpo, have him flip town, realize that the whole day was in vain, freeze in astonishment.

Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 20:25 GMT
#2215
On January 18 2012 05:20 Scamp wrote:
"Probably" and "whatever". That tells me all I need to know.


haha. damn that scumslip. you should build a case on that.

Do you really believe that 17 votes - 2 votes second candidate is something scums would tolerate that easily? scum is pushing for this and town i sheeping behind it. => towntell

The ONLY possible way that macpo flips red is that mafia is bussing him.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 20:28 GMT
#2218
On January 18 2012 05:23 Scamp wrote:
By the way, Jayjay. If you feel that way about our lynch, why the hell are you voting for a double lynch?


because I think there is an abundance of lynch candidates.

sandro, BC, chaos, ggq.

a double lynch also enchances the chances of lynching an established player. e.g if today was a double lynch the race for the second place would be REALLY interesting.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 20:49 GMT
#2236
On January 18 2012 05:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Wait, I feel like I just put two and two together. Maybe I should listen more.
Here's a train of thought;

BM calls Lanaia is scum.
BM protects Lanaia to 'reduce mafia KP', even though it didn't, nor could it have.

So what did it achieve?
It saved her from kp.

There were plenty of options, why Lanaia specifically?
Why does BM want to protect someone he has a scum read on?
I see scum buddies or blue hunting as possible reasons.


hmm. what bothers me so much is that he never ever talks about lanaia a single time until:

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 15 2012 21:52 Bill Murray wrote:
Town
supersoft
Cyber_Cheese
Toadesstern
Adam4167
Foolishness
Nisani201
EchelonTee
Jayjay54
L
Liquid`Sheth
kitaman27
BloodyC0bbler
Kurumi
p4NDemik
Meapak_Ziphh
wherebugsgo

Dont want to lynch:
VisceraEyes
Jitsu
Mr. Wiggles
~OpZ~
Ciryandor
Jackal58
hiro protagonist
GiygaS
BrownBear

Where have you been? Wouldn't mind lynching these lurkers:
igabod
zeks
evantrees
Chaosquo
Cwave
Slardar
rgTheSchworz
Scamp
glurio
rtgICEMAN
Maxella
blahz0r
GGQ

Lynch, Lynch, Lynch!:
Protactinium (Mystlord/Incognito)
sandroba
risk.nuke
Munk-E
scumatlarge
Lanaia
Macpo
Mafia



this post. no case. no nothing and she ends up on the Lynch Lynch Lynch list. Feels somehow like an excuse to jail. Up to that point she posted a little, pretty neutral imo. But, to me, nowhere near a DefScum.

Then this post (which I still don't get)

On January 16 2012 14:10 Bill Murray wrote:
I am pretty sure I saved Lanaia from being killed last night


into random BC accusations based on masoning...

This post is weird too:

On January 17 2012 12:35 Bill Murray wrote:
Ok, guys, I've passed on the names of the BGs to the 2 masons that masoned me
the other guy townslipped in PMs with me


how can someone "townslip". by saying something townish without wanting to do so? what?

and after a page or so posts about his masoning and how VE and BC are scum he just votes vanilla:

On January 17 2012 13:53 Bill Murray wrote:
oh shit
rgshworz associative tell city
i'm voting macpo


Next post:

On January 17 2012 20:20 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 15:11 Adam4167 wrote:
OK, I just arrived in Melbourne after a 12 hour drive for a funeral, so my appearances in the thread will be spotty... but I'm still committed to this damn game.

BM... what the shit man?
-You say Foolishness is one of your strongest town reads
-He even makes it into the 'townie' zone of your big list of names
-You even go as far as to say you wanted Foolishness in the mayor position
-Everyone acknowledges that town Foolishness is a WMD, especially post day 2

Annnd then you choose to incarcerate Lanaia on night 1.. who you labelled as scum?
Don't feed us that crap about trying to lower scum KP on the first night, i aint buying it
Why the hell wouldn't you have incarcerated foolishness?

Something here does not compute for me.

And you still haven't answered the question I asked you earlier.



I know Lanaia from IRC, if she's town she's a great scumhunter
Jailing foolishness is a waste when he's definitely going to be protected by a doctor


Wait what? I thought she's Lynch Lynch Lynch? Maybe I don't understand this post properly, correct me please, but he's saying he jailed her since she's good at hunting scum?

if this is true, this post is funny (20 mins later):

On January 17 2012 20:46 Bill Murray wrote:
I could easily have prevented Lanaia from using a scum ability
when I saw 3 KP, and L claimed Roleblocked, I thought it might have been the combination of the two


saying again that Lanaia was jailed because of roleblocking, which only affects framer, med and the limited use of jac if I'm correct.

a lot of contradiction here.

so all in all, WBG is right. He's full of shit right now. Or insane. Or most likely scum.

I'd be up for a lynch, if we reach enough people.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 21:22 GMT
#2255
Just for the record: my vote is still on GGQ. Feel free to join me.

I would be up for a more risky lynch, but I probably have to settle to lynch someone other that macpo.

Again: MACPO IS GETTING MODKILLED. please switch your votes....
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 21:46 GMT
#2263
On January 18 2012 06:42 Toadesstern wrote:
Could we get a vote update?

Also unvoting and voting BM.


<3


Votes for Macpo (15)
Protactinium
Foolishness
Bill Murray
Scamp
Jitsu
Meapak_Ziphh
evantrees
Lanaia
bumatlarge
rgTheSchworz
Adam4167
rtgICEMAN
glurio
VisceraEyes
Slardar

Votes for sandroba (2)
hiro protagonist
Kenpachi

Votes for GGQ (2)
sandroba
Jayjay54
Votes for VE (1)
jackal

Votes for Protactinium (2)
Nisani201
~OpZ~

Votes for Bill Murray (5)
wherebugsgo
Cyber_Cheese
risk.nuke
GGQ
Toadesstern

Votes for Kenpachi (1)
BrownBear

Votes for Jackal58 (1)
BloodyC0bbler

Votes for L (2)
kitaman27
kingjames01
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 21:57 GMT
#2270
On January 18 2012 06:56 Toadesstern wrote:
annyone else thinking those people who just crawled out of their cavet didn't just come here by coincidence but were told to post something with an excuse by their mafia buddies after they saw that list of afk-people?


hahaha. that would be so funny
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 17 2012 22:29 GMT
#2279
I got a slight feeling that macpo is going to be lynched today.....so I was thinking what we could learn from his lynch.

If macpo flips noob scum player, people might reconsider voting protact.

he called out both cyri and macpo before the end of day 1.

macpo also just voting him without stating a reason ("He needs to die!"). And since he is noobish, he might have given info here.

however, I'm afraid, there's nothing we can learn, if he flips town...

Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 18 2012 12:37 GMT
#2369
Page113
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 18 2012 14:38 GMT
#2386
On January 18 2012 22:32 jaj22 wrote:
Clarification: That's what it looks like if you do the absolute minimum to dodge a modkill while under pressure.

Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 21:46 EchelonTee wrote:
On January 17 2012 04:27 rtgICEMAN wrote:
At this point i feel like there can be soo many guys suspected as scum, includet me.JayJay's post is rather unusual vague at the end then a realistic post.he says about alot of players then marks sandro as scum.Thought I appreciate his effort for this post, i kinda not agree with its conclusion.I ll keep an eye on GGQ and on lanaia and ill vote someone in the next 12 hours.


Does anyone else think that this post is horrendous? It's incredibly neutral, saying that "man there's a lot of people who look scummy, don't know what to do", which is kind of trivializing discussion. and slightly discredits jay's post, and his conclusion that sandro is scum. Eh.

He has a valid point about JayJay's post though. I had a real wtf moment when I got to the conclusion:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13162408

Probably just confirmation bias though. He has a scum read on Sandroba already, and he's desperately looking for confirmation in data that doesn't really support it.


Actually I have more of a scum read on BC. Since his claim. If you read my filter, you see that. And I'm 95 % sure that either him or sandro is scum. So I agree with BM here, when he says he wants to know sandros alignment to figure out BC. This is written on phone. But I'll post my opinions on stuff more detailled when I get home in some hours.

I'll post my lynch choices now though...BM (who acts insane) and ggq
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 18 2012 14:40 GMT
#2387
Oh. and stop talking about protact. Hr basically called out two scums day 1. That is really townie Imo
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 18 2012 19:20 GMT
#2412
On January 18 2012 23:54 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 23:38 Jayjay54 wrote:
On January 18 2012 22:32 jaj22 wrote:
Clarification: That's what it looks like if you do the absolute minimum to dodge a modkill while under pressure.

On January 18 2012 21:46 EchelonTee wrote:
On January 17 2012 04:27 rtgICEMAN wrote:
At this point i feel like there can be soo many guys suspected as scum, includet me.JayJay's post is rather unusual vague at the end then a realistic post.he says about alot of players then marks sandro as scum.Thought I appreciate his effort for this post, i kinda not agree with its conclusion.I ll keep an eye on GGQ and on lanaia and ill vote someone in the next 12 hours.


Does anyone else think that this post is horrendous? It's incredibly neutral, saying that "man there's a lot of people who look scummy, don't know what to do", which is kind of trivializing discussion. and slightly discredits jay's post, and his conclusion that sandro is scum. Eh.

He has a valid point about JayJay's post though. I had a real wtf moment when I got to the conclusion:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13162408

Probably just confirmation bias though. He has a scum read on Sandroba already, and he's desperately looking for confirmation in data that doesn't really support it.


Actually I have more of a scum read on BC. Since his claim. If you read my filter, you see that. And I'm 95 % sure that either him or sandro is scum. So I agree with BM here, when he says he wants to know sandros alignment to figure out BC. This is written on phone. But I'll post my opinions on stuff more detailled when I get home in some hours.

I'll post my lynch choices now though...BM (who acts insane) and ggq


yeah but BC pushes don't look like mafia pushes at all. He catched scum for us. I am pretty much willing to trust him as long as he keeps on catching scum no matter what. Either he's a mafia who's trying to get towncred by catching scum (I don't have a problem with that as long as the mafias end up hanging) or he's a town catching scum and that's obviously not bad either.



hmm I don't see it looking through his filter. he made a case against jackal and kingjames. also he once more acts weird with masons.


HOWEVER, for towns sake I'll stop dicussions about both sandros and BC for now (hint: one out two is scum). I feel this is not really helping right now.

Here are my opinions.

[r]lynch targets[/r]:

[r]BM[/r]: pretty much all is said. summarized the laiana disaster here. Still makes zero sense at all. Accuses protact and BC. Spams away probably Foolishness' post, the probably best post yet with like back to back to back to back answers.

Needs to do some work to get off the suspect-list which will unlikely happen....Right now, I'll support a lynch 100%


[r]GGQ[/r] : I guess you've read the case. also this post

On January 18 2012 13:12 GGQ wrote:
Yeah so I hard defended macpo because I thought he posted like I did when I was new.

It's probably better to vig me tonight instead of wasting a lynch.


seems like a straaange try to at least get a vig to shoot him.

Flipping him red is probably the only way to regain some trust in sandroba and start hitting the good ol BC train.


[r]Chaos:[/r] Softdefended both GGQ and Cyri. finds the courage to just quote his case uncommented :

On January 17 2012 04:15 Chaosquo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 02:15 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Is it just me, or is that some timing? Just as Sandroba decides GGQ as his vote

It took me some time to write the post before that, and then I refreshed and saw the post by sandroba and felt his argument for pushing ggq was quite weak and I didnt want palmar happening again.

On January 17 2012 02:02 Chaosquo wrote:
ggq: posts quite aggressive and short, but wherebugsgo and palmar made similar posts. I leaned scum, but null read right now.

BAM! SOFTDEFEND

So I took a look at Chaosquo's Filter
On January 14 2012 01:27 Chaosquo wrote:
On January 14 2012 01:18 Palmar wrote:
On January 13 2012 14:56 Protactinium wrote:
On January 13 2012 14:26 Ciryandor wrote:
/confirm

LOL I won't vote for Kitaman after XLVIII's disaster. He was an absolute derp in that. Waiting for people to put in a serious campaign with a decent policy. This is why I'm waiting for Mr. Wiggles and Cyber_Cheese to provide us with good reasons; and right now, Wiggles has the best campaign of the lot.

I of course wonder if Sandroba or Palmar will try to get to the elections again.


I'm running for mayor on the platform of lynching Ciryandor. There's no way you seriously think Mr. Wiggles has the best campaign.


Hey I agree with this guy, so I'm voting him. I am very much a fan of killing Ciryandor.


What is it with Ciryandor?1 Palmar, are you now trolling us? I agree with Toadesstern that a) you are mafia and dont care about the game or b) you have a special tactic, but randomly accusing him does not help ..2

Wiggles: Does your post mean you are stepping down as candidate?3

On that topic, could all people that are serious in their campaign make it clear? For me, right now there are: BC, BM(?), kitaman and risk.nuke. I think the number of candidates has to be limited to enable a clearer choice.

On January 14 2012 01:44 Chaosquo wrote:
On January 14 2012 01:32 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2012 01:27 Chaosquo wrote:
a) you are mafia and dont care about the game


Prove it.


I was just commenting on your playstyle. I was just following the meta on you (town=vocal, scum=lurking), but seeing as you were quite active as "scum" in resistance, I retract my statement. But still posting one-liners is not helping much, no?24

On January 14 2012 01:46 Chaosquo wrote:
I have to ask: Is the kill Ciry thing a meta thing? Because I didnt see much scummy things from him.1

On January 14 2012 08:38 Chaosquo wrote:
I still think BC is quite towny, as he put himself quite into the spotlight and his posts didnt raise suspicions. I just cannot imagine he would risk his quite good shot at an elected role by claiming mason if he was scum. Therefore, I think for the time I'm going to vote BC for mayor. I could be totally outplayed, but so be it. Or maybe I put too much value into an elected scum.

I am a new player5, so I can imagine that good scum team can manipulate a inexperienced player, but he will probably only influence the game with his single vote (if he's green), so I can see why masons staying hidden is advantageous for town.

Also, since I got ignored the first time, why is there so much hate towards Ciry?1 I dont think his posts are very scummy, but there are 3 people (sandroba, proactinium and sheth) pushing for his lynch. I also dont think this alone is a scumtell, but its still pretty irritatiting ..


1 - Protects Ciryandor multiple times.
Look at the thread at that time. Ciry only made three meaningful posts at that time and non seemed very scummy. I didnt understand the accusation protactinium and sandroba were making, it didnt have much grounds imo. I thought that this accusation got seemingly randomly picked up by different people (Sheth comemntated on it later), which left me pretty confused, so I wanted to hear a stronger case.
2 - Casts doubt on both Palmar.
I just said that what palmar was doing is questionable, and I wanted him to step up the posting to avoid getting lynched.
3 - And Wiggles

4 - Apologetic
That was after I looked into his other game and I felt the meta argument was overdone.
5 - Calls attention to his inexperience
And I was trying to reinforce the point that I that believe mafia masons can manipulate town.

##Vote Chaosquo



which is probably a statement in itself.


honorable mentioning: VE:

I feel like this case has got to little attention. And it's writer is dead:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=81#1612

so he's on my top people to watch 2012 list.


*CoughCoughI'llalsolynchBCorsandroCoughcough*...sorry




not willing to lynch:

~OPz~: pretty much dismantled sheth case on him yesterday / today (depending on time zone ) no real town vibes though

L: is on foolishness list which I like a lot, still looks somehow town to me.

Meapak_Ziphh: total Null. can't read him whatsoever.

looking at the rest of fools list, I don't know. Kingjames and jackal might be right, but I wouldn't support a lynch yet at all.

brownbear and evantree continue to lurk hard. brownbear at least yells a very conving "pew pew die scum"....but right now I feel like we have better targets.

lanaia: just mention her, since she was one of twisted-BMs choice. should step up a bit though.


[g]defend:[/g]

protact: I already posted it, get of his ass. seriously, calling two people out on day 1 and both are scum. He also conveys a town favoured agenda. Unless BC & BM don't flip, he's town to me. @protact keep on analyzing.

toad: he might have his own view on this game. But he always looked town to me. He pretty much called out the same mason discussion bullshit, I did too. He puts a lot of effort in. Looks really town to me. Why is he on so many peoples list?

____________________

conclusion

I try to not come up with another WTF moment here

Votes right now a on BM and GGQ or Chaos, whoever gets more votes. If one is scum, they both.

VE will be watched.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 18 2012 19:21 GMT
#2414
turns out the tag is still [red] and not [r]. also and not . I am truely sorry
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 18 2012 19:40 GMT
#2420
On January 19 2012 04:33 Toadesstern wrote:
Oh and please stop telling me "Toad you're very wrong". So far I was right with pretty much everything I said. The thing were I have an opinion that differs from yours is sandroba. Everything else is totally the same.
I said mattchew is town, I said palmar is town, I said cyri is mafia, I said macpo is probably mafia but I'd like to lynch someone else first to get a better read on him because he posted so little, I said kita& wiggles are probably town when I talked about their campaigns, I said foolish is probably town and I'm agreeing with pretty much everyone on that mafia list.
How can you say I've been wrong so much. The only thing I could be wrong about could be Sandroba and he hasn't flipped yet.
So PLEASE stop telling me I'm wrong so much if everyone that flipped showed I was right with what I say and the one person we've got different opions hasn't even flipped.


what I think is funny is that you are getting smacked left and right and are also on peoples list for that sandro bullshit, while I do basically the same thing and end up on no list...

we pretty much agreed on most and even the unpopular stuff, you were just leaning towards sandro scum and I BC scum. why is no one casing me. I find that hard to understand. seriously, people are trying to fuck you man
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 18 2012 19:43 GMT
#2422
On January 19 2012 04:30 GGQ wrote:
As day 1 was coming to close, Protact was leading the mayor vote and promising to lynch Macpo after already calling out ciryandor. It's possible he's scum bussing two teammates but that's not likely enough to be seriously considered at this point.

It's far more likely that the scum are players trying to distract from lynching these two on day 1, like wherebugsgo pushing hard on palmar all day, supersoft joining him, BC lynching palmar.


hey man, u might want to improve your reputation around here. since you're pretty much saying nothing more than a vague opinion:

who would you, GGQ, lynch right now and why? you got two votes!
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Jayjay54
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January 18 2012 19:48 GMT
#2424
On January 19 2012 04:43 Toadesstern wrote:
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On January 19 2012 04:40 Jayjay54 wrote:
On January 19 2012 04:33 Toadesstern wrote:
Oh and please stop telling me "Toad you're very wrong". So far I was right with pretty much everything I said. The thing were I have an opinion that differs from yours is sandroba. Everything else is totally the same.
I said mattchew is town, I said palmar is town, I said cyri is mafia, I said macpo is probably mafia but I'd like to lynch someone else first to get a better read on him because he posted so little, I said kita& wiggles are probably town when I talked about their campaigns, I said foolish is probably town and I'm agreeing with pretty much everyone on that mafia list.
How can you say I've been wrong so much. The only thing I could be wrong about could be Sandroba and he hasn't flipped yet.
So PLEASE stop telling me I'm wrong so much if everyone that flipped showed I was right with what I say and the one person we've got different opions hasn't even flipped.


what I think is funny is that you are getting smacked left and right and are also on peoples list for that sandro bullshit, while I do basically the same thing and end up on no list...

we pretty much agreed on most and even the unpopular stuff, you were just leaning towards sandro scum and I BC scum. why is no one casing me. I find that hard to understand. seriously, people are trying to fuck you man


tell me about it. If the rules would not tell me to not get myself lynched I'd totally tell everyone to lynch me and if I flip town to just wbg for revenge and shitting on me although there is literally nothing except the one read that differs: Sandroba (oh and palmar, were I (<----) was right)


modkill sacrifice

btw: Leaning towards WBG being overly aggressive townie. No scum.
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