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On January 15 2012 11:04 Nisani201 wrote:
ffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu i pressed post by accident...
Anyways, WBG, a case based entirely on meta IS invalid. If Palmar acts like this in D2, we can treat him like a lurker. We should all expect scumhunting from him tomorrow, but until then, the case on him is stupid.
no, it isn't.
It's not even completely based on meta. CC and Palmar just keep asserting that it's completely based on meta on the fact that I summed it up with one word, saying meta.
The reason I summed it up was to bait to see if Palmar would spin that I had no case. He did exactly that.
You don't find it weird that he wants VE in office despite calling VE bad over and over? What's the use of electing someone bad to an office that protects them? What's the use if VE would never get shot?
Why would Palmar not run for office if he's town?
Why would Palmar suddenly support Protact and provide no reason for it?
Why is Palmar not scumhunting?
Why is Palmar focusing so much on defending himself when it's only me who is attacking him? He focused on defending himself so much, in fact, that he's literally commented on nothing else. Which is not that shocking, I suppose, since he hasn't done anything to begin with.
Why do Palmar's only two non-one-liner posts contain almost 100% fluff?
None of these are meta reasons to kill Palmar, yet no one cares.
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On January 15 2012 11:13 Nisani201 wrote:
It's pointless to scumhunt on D1 with elections because no one is really getting lynched anyways. If he decided to scumhunt with correct reads, that would make him a mafia target anyways.
That's why we should keep an eye on him on D2.
it's pointless to scumhunt d1?
Yeah, let's just fucking waste all the time we have day 1 because we don't want to play the game of mafia, AKA FIND THE SCUM AND KILL THEM.
this is fucking ridiculous.
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On January 15 2012 11:16 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 11:08 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 15 2012 11:04 Nisani201 wrote:
ffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu i pressed post by accident...
Anyways, WBG, a case based entirely on meta IS invalid. If Palmar acts like this in D2, we can treat him like a lurker. We should all expect scumhunting from him tomorrow, but until then, the case on him is stupid. no, it isn't. It's not even completely based on meta. CC and Palmar just keep asserting that it's completely based on meta on the fact that I summed it up with one word, saying meta. The reason I summed it up was to bait to see if Palmar would spin that I had no case. He did exactly that. You don't find it weird that he wants VE in office despite calling VE bad over and over? What's the use of electing someone bad to an office that protects them? What's the use if VE would never get shot? Why would Palmar not run for office if he's town? Why would Palmar suddenly support Protact and provide no reason for it? Why is Palmar not scumhunting? Why is Palmar focusing so much on defending himself when it's only me who is attacking him? He focused on defending himself so much, in fact, that he's literally commented on nothing else. Which is not that shocking, I suppose, since he hasn't done anything to begin with. Why do Palmar's only two non-one-liner posts contain almost 100% fluff? None of these are meta reasons to kill Palmar, yet no one cares. you think VE did a good job most recently? Because you're telling me to vote VE but I don't think he's up to the task. To get this straight. I'm either spot on with my analysis because those 2 + BM are the 3 people I am considering to vote or I'm horribly wrong and am leading town to another lose because of townidiots (in this case I'd be one). I think all 3 are probably town right now. But I think BM's better than VE in an office and I am horribly scared to vote Protact.
where did I say I want people to vote VE?
all the candidates suck right now, that's why I haven't voted yet. I almost wish I could abstain.
I want to kill Palmar+Protact+opz. Probably kill VE too.
BC is probably the safest bet at this point for office but I'm not feeling great about him either. I wish Foolishness would be a bit more active so I could actually talk to him, but w/e.
Sandro why are you not doing anything? Who do you want lynched? Who do you think is scum?
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On January 15 2012 11:20 rgTheSchworz wrote:
WBG, I kinda get your point. But you seems like you just want palmar dead RIGHT NOW. If we wait till day 2, we can confirm your case. Remember, there are roles other than scum that sometimes adopt Palmar's behavior.
If he continues to post 1-liners and fluff, then you confirm what you said, right now.
It is suspicious that he wants VE, because VE has f-ed up with his partnership with CC, he turned back on him almost instantly, remember?AND he keeps calling VE bad.
But Macpo has raised FoS on himself because of his apologetic behavior, etc. Contrast this to Adam, who is himself relatively newbie, but seems more confident AND DOESNT MAKE LISTS.
I will support any investigations on Palmar's actions ON DAY 2
waiting till day 2 does nothing.
You only wait till day 2 if you have a better candidate for lynch. So far, there isn't one.
Guaranteed we wait till day 2, if Palmar (or the other two I'm suspicious of are) is scum, I die n1 and then you all derp yourselves day 2 into not lynching him.
I can't guarantee I'll even be alive to influence town at that point.
Macpo is not a good lynch. The case is bad and I really think Protact is likely to be scum.
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On January 15 2012 11:24 Nisani201 wrote:
WBG have you been reading the thread?
BC, Sandroba, and Ciryandor are much better candidates that have a much better chance of flipping scum than Palmar.
no, no, no, and no.
BC is not as likely to flip scum. You're eating Protact's words and spitting them out exactly as he wants you to do. He doesn't even fucking support lynching BC anymore.
Sandro is not as likely to flip scum. Sure, he's done nothing so far but often times on day 1 sandro as town doesn't do anything. He's harder to read than Palmar. So far, he's neutral to me. That's not a good lynch.
Ciryandor is also relatively new. He might make a good lynch in the absence of Palmar, but again, he was pushed by Protact (who is extremely scummy atm) so I am wary of lynching him.
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On January 15 2012 11:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
WBG calm the fuck down bro. I'm not the problem here. I'm certainly not scum, and I think you know it.
When you say 'all the candidates suck' does that mean you think they're all scum? Or do you just say that because none of them are going to lynch YOUR lynch choice? Be a man, vote for the best candidate and just see what happens.
no, you're not the problem, Palmar is.
and no, I just think all the candidates suck.
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On January 15 2012 11:35 Lanaia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 10:14 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lanaia, if you agree with lynching Palmar can you explain why you don't want me elected?
Who are you looking at voting for?
I don't particularly care for getting elected. All I care about is scum dying. So far I don't think macpo is scum and none of the other candidates have come up with anything promising. So, that means the only option to get Palmar lynched is to elect me in to office.
(this is suboptimal, for reasons I won't explicitly explain) The amount of people who voted you so quickly within such a short period of time bothered me. I know it wasn't enough to swing the vote, but it really rubbed me the wrong way. Dammit, I wish I'd not waffled so much in regards to switching my vote. Now, it's kinda too late. I really can't tell if this is my being paranoid or not.
firstly, it was only 3.
Second, I have next to no chance of actually winning the election at this point.
Third, the votes came right after wiggles posted something positive about me. (IIRC)
Fourth, I don't even know why they voted me so quickly. If I was scum that definitely wouldn't have happened; too much risk for no reward. Imagine, if I was scum and even one of those people was scum with me, that'd be a terrible trade. I'd be outed and so would at least one of my buddies.
Since it doesn't make sense from a scum perspective ( I can't see why scum would want to elect me either) I can only assume it was a coincidence.
It's possible one of the voters is scum. In which case, it would definitely make sense for them to do that; they immediately vote after another person votes me to make me look suspicious. Obviously if that was the plan, it worked.
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On January 15 2012 11:37 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 11:35 Lanaia wrote:On January 15 2012 10:14 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lanaia, if you agree with lynching Palmar can you explain why you don't want me elected?
Who are you looking at voting for?
I don't particularly care for getting elected. All I care about is scum dying. So far I don't think macpo is scum and none of the other candidates have come up with anything promising. So, that means the only option to get Palmar lynched is to elect me in to office.
(this is suboptimal, for reasons I won't explicitly explain) The amount of people who voted you so quickly within such a short period of time bothered me. I know it wasn't enough to swing the vote, but it really rubbed me the wrong way. Dammit, I wish I'd not waffled so much in regards to switching my vote. Now, it's kinda too late. I really can't tell if this is my being paranoid or not. if that's going to help you: even more people switched to protac shortly after people switched to wbg.
yes, this is another thing:
notice how no one pointed this out. It's clear that I was made to look suspicious despite the fact that Protact was actually the one gaining mass votes in a very short timespan.
This makes even more sense from the perspective that scum want to make me look bad, since no one commented on the way Protact picked up votes.
The most scummy thing about Protact is the switch from BC to Macpo as the lynch target after Foolishness said Macpo was suspicious. This makes BC look more town (if Protact is actually scum.) However, I'm wary of posing connections since we haven't seen any flips. I'd look closely at Protactinium, however, because I really don't get a very town-like vibe from them.
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On January 15 2012 11:42 Lanaia wrote:
Is protac in the lead, do we know?
ugh, there's no way WBG is going to win at this point. :/
In order to get someone into mayorship who I'm not going to be all paranoid about, I'd have to vote Bill Murray. I'm not 100% sure that is the best for us, though. Then again, I really don't know much about him.
I'm actually fighting so hard with myself here.
WBG, who do you think would be our best bet right now? I'm not seeing your vote in the vote thread for some reason (unless you haven't voted which would make sense).
I haven't voted.
I'm thinking about voting BC. As I've said repeatedly, I don't like any of the candidacies. Bill Murray is a bad candidate. Who is he even going to lynch?
None of the proposed lynch candidates are any good. None of the reasons for mayorship are good either. I'd like to vote BC because he looks the most townie of the people who have run and he's the most likely to get shot as well.
I would vote for Foolishness if he actually had a chance at becoming mayor. Although, at this point, as usual he has done very little so his alignment is still unknown. Mafia will definitely shoot him n1 if he's town, though.
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after the last vote count, Protact got 6 votes and 1 unvote, going from 7 votes to 12. He's definitely in the lead by at least 4 votes.
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sandro is a bad candidate because he has a reputation as town for not doing much day 1. It's the same reason you wouldn't lynch Foolishness day 1.
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On January 15 2012 11:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Is BC the best candidate?
why are you asking us? Aren't you self-aware?
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BC if you are willing to lynch Palmar I will vote you. Otherwise, I'm going to waste my vote by voting someone random.
If the last vote count was correct, BM at 9, BC at 8, Protact at 12.
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ah fuck it
##vote BloodyC0bbler
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I'm pretty sure scum want BM in office over BC.
Which probably means BC is town. Kita is scum.
dat bitch.
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On January 15 2012 12:07 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 12:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 15 2012 12:02 bumatlarge wrote:
I think it's too late now? I still like protact, no one has gone in depth why he shouldnt be mayor
all gut feelings and one line accusations :/ bum really? His only cause to analyze me is he doesn't like my claim and is using year old + games to prove his case against me where the style in both was completely different. Everyone go back and read pick your power 3 and read jimbo silvers play, guess what, that was incog. Compare to this game now. You think he is SK? :D No i don't think you are scum, protact said he wouldnt kill you. Just because protact is mayor doesnt mean he gets to decide the next lynch. If he does lynch you he has a lot to answer to :/
Protact already washed his hands of BC. He's going to lynch macpo.
I'll be shocked if macpo actually flips scum.
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On January 15 2012 12:07 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 12:00 supersoft wrote:
VOTE BC GUYS!!! ASAP!!!
inognito shouldn't be mayor!!! macpep or whatever his lynchtarget is called is a horrible kill.
Palmar is the one and only good case right now. What's good about it (why am I awake at 3am?)
LOL AND HE SHOWS HIS FACE LOLOLOLOL
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On January 15 2012 12:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 12:07 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 15 2012 12:07 bumatlarge wrote:On January 15 2012 12:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 15 2012 12:02 bumatlarge wrote:
I think it's too late now? I still like protact, no one has gone in depth why he shouldnt be mayor
all gut feelings and one line accusations :/ bum really? His only cause to analyze me is he doesn't like my claim and is using year old + games to prove his case against me where the style in both was completely different. Everyone go back and read pick your power 3 and read jimbo silvers play, guess what, that was incog. Compare to this game now. You think he is SK? :D No i don't think you are scum, protact said he wouldnt kill you. Just because protact is mayor doesnt mean he gets to decide the next lynch. If he does lynch you he has a lot to answer to :/ Protact already washed his hands of BC. He's going to lynch macpo. I'll be shocked if macpo actually flips scum. Honestly, at this point if he doesnt lynch me is is confirmed scum. Do I want to die? No, but if he gunned this hard to analyze me to death as red then refuses to pull the trigger then hes full of shit. He knows I won't flip red and knows he will die right after. If he is able to fuck with town this hard now, keeping me around to continue to argue with will make more confusion and waste more time -_-
IMO he's already almost 100% scum just by the fact that he chose Macpo shortly after Foolishness suspected him.
It makes total sense from a scum perspective if you are town; you are a risky day 1 lynch and if you flip town that puts a lot of pressure on Protact. So instead he chooses the target that the number 1 scumhunter would choose (Macpo) and then washes his hands of the responsibility of lynching you.
It's incredibly fishy. The unfortunate part about all of this is the fact that we've very likely elected a scum to office, and we lost a very good chance to lynch scum today.
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On January 15 2012 12:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 12:12 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 15 2012 12:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 15 2012 12:07 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 15 2012 12:07 bumatlarge wrote:On January 15 2012 12:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 15 2012 12:02 bumatlarge wrote:
I think it's too late now? I still like protact, no one has gone in depth why he shouldnt be mayor
all gut feelings and one line accusations :/ bum really? His only cause to analyze me is he doesn't like my claim and is using year old + games to prove his case against me where the style in both was completely different. Everyone go back and read pick your power 3 and read jimbo silvers play, guess what, that was incog. Compare to this game now. You think he is SK? :D No i don't think you are scum, protact said he wouldnt kill you. Just because protact is mayor doesnt mean he gets to decide the next lynch. If he does lynch you he has a lot to answer to :/ Protact already washed his hands of BC. He's going to lynch macpo. I'll be shocked if macpo actually flips scum. Honestly, at this point if he doesnt lynch me is is confirmed scum. Do I want to die? No, but if he gunned this hard to analyze me to death as red then refuses to pull the trigger then hes full of shit. He knows I won't flip red and knows he will die right after. If he is able to fuck with town this hard now, keeping me around to continue to argue with will make more confusion and waste more time -_- IMO he's already almost 100% scum just by the fact that he chose Macpo shortly after Foolishness suspected him. It makes total sense from a scum perspective if you are town; you are a risky day 1 lynch and if you flip town that puts a lot of pressure on Protact. So instead he chooses the target that the number 1 scumhunter would choose (Macpo) and then washes his hands of the responsibility of lynching you. It's incredibly fishy. The unfortunate part about all of this is the fact that we've very likely elected a scum to office, and we lost a very good chance to lynch scum today. Apparently I got mayor (was requested to send in my lynch choice) Palmar was my pick
what the eff
how did you get mayor? He had like six votes on you or something
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On January 15 2012 12:11 Ciryandor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 12:03 kitaman27 wrote:
Sorry guys, the OP has the incorrect deadline and I was catching up on the thread thinking I would have more time. I'm around page 62, but I'm voting BM because he is the strongest town read I have at the moment of the post. I'll try to post when I finish reading.
Can the OP be updated with the correct deadline? As for the comment on lynching, Proact, even if he has changed targets, at least is not being wishy-washy by giving a list of choices, he is at least committing to a specific person to lynch.
LOLLL
didn't think yoiu were scum before but I definitely think you are now
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