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On January 15 2012 12:22 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 12:11 Ciryandor wrote:On January 15 2012 12:03 kitaman27 wrote: Sorry guys, the OP has the incorrect deadline and I was catching up on the thread thinking I would have more time. I'm around page 62, but I'm voting BM because he is the strongest town read I have at the moment of the post. I'll try to post when I finish reading.
Can the OP be updated with the correct deadline? As for the comment on lynching, Proact, even if he has changed targets, at least is not being wishy-washy by giving a list of choices, he is at least committing to a specific person to lynch. LOLLL didn't think yoiu were scum before but I definitely think you are now
I thought he was scum, I wanted him lynched. Do you suddenly now that I've probably been lynched retract that dumbassery?
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On January 15 2012 12:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 12:21 Palmar wrote: For someone who argues constantly that meta is useless, that lynch is terrible bloodycobbler. I have repeatedly asked people to present accusations that aren't meta, and no one has provided any.
Thus it's strictly dumb to lynch me.... whatever. it was you or brownbear, he is up for a modkill. I already stated I would not choose protrac or foolishness before I went for work as to give them a day for their status. Also, considering the entire case incog has built around me is more or less just meta and you were for him to off me, i could say the same to you.
No, I wanted to kill you because your claim was bad play, as I explained. It has nothing to do with meta, no amount of meta would make that claim good play.
@Town, kill this guy asap. At best he's destructive town.
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On January 15 2012 12:27 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 12:22 Palmar wrote:On January 15 2012 12:10 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 15 2012 12:07 Palmar wrote:On January 15 2012 12:00 supersoft wrote: VOTE BC GUYS!!! ASAP!!!
inognito shouldn't be mayor!!! macpep or whatever his lynchtarget is called is a horrible kill. Palmar is the one and only good case right now. What's good about it (why am I awake at 3am?) LOL AND HE SHOWS HIS FACE LOLOLOLOL If you're town, you're now degraded to completely useless and terrible. But you're probably scum because no one is this bad. please palmar. Why don't you explain why VE is a good officecandidate in your eyes this game, rather than attacking the person who pointed your uncommon play out.
Just look at his posting in the game, he's been active, he's put himself out there, his dayvig failure seems genuine enough to me. The reason he's a good candidate is that he really looks like a townie. And apparently he's less terrible than wherebugsgo.
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On January 15 2012 12:27 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 12:27 Toadesstern wrote: why are you awake at 3:30 am in the morning? I thought you don't care about the election? that was directed towards palmar, sry
I'm watching Tim Tebow fail, it's hilarious.
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First of all, I played the way I did because I was really busy and didn't have stretches to play mafia and thus post longer and more elaborate posts. I consider actually saying I'm busy cheating, so I don't do that. Don't argue with me on this. I don't use any out-of-game resources when I play mafia.
My lynch was completely retarded. I mean, I guess I can relate to if BC really had no clue what he was doing, but it's just... bad.
@Wherebugsgo: I don't like the fact that you are trying to call me out for playing badly. I repeatedly asked you to present a case that wasn't meta, and I explained why your case was not valid.
In addition, I tried to get Protactinium into office who fingered Cyriandor, BloodyC0bbler and macpo. I also tried to get VisceraEyes into office. In addition I myself presented a case against Ciryandor and fingered sandroba and BloodyC0bbler.
I can't actually see how this is any way scum motivated.
The case was terrible, the decision to act on it was terrible.
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@Bugs: Even after explaining very clearly why you had no chance of being correct (see spoilered).
+ Show Spoiler +On January 14 2012 20:57 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 20:51 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 14 2012 20:08 Palmar wrote:On January 14 2012 20:04 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 14 2012 20:02 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 14 2012 19:59 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 14 2012 19:57 Palmar wrote: Wherebugsgo, can you summarize your case against me in one post so I can break it down and tell you why you're dumb and bad, possibly scum. I don't explain shit to scum Explain it to me then. go read my filter in one word, meta. So, knowing each game is a different game, and that meta is not valid unless it's applied very precisely (you can't say something like x has posted less than usual, what's important is how, why and what he has posted), you still think that you have a valid enough case? Would you bet your abilities as a player on this case? if I'm wrong about you being scum right now it reflects more on how bad your play is right now than mine. The fact that you are willing to try and guilt me into laying off you suggests you already know I'm town. Otherwise, you wouldn't ask whether I am willing to bet my abilities as a player on this case, since if I was scum I'd have no vested interest in something like that. So, that just strengthens my case even more. TL;DR, go die, scum. No, because you don't have a case. My play is in no way, shape, or form bad. Take away the Palmar name, and you have someone you'd probably have a town read on. This means you're not reading the game objectively, and thus it's your play that's bad, not mine. If you remove meta from a case, it should still have some merit to it. Does yours? The only possible way you're playing well right now, is if you're scum.
And the fact that I provided some excellent analysis:
+ Show Spoiler +On January 15 2012 06:20 Palmar wrote: @Sheth: No, you don't look scummy for defending me, mafia knows my alignment, but you could also simply have come to the correct conclusion. My current read on you is null, or maybe slightly leaning town
There is no real benefit in the mason thing, as the role is almost completely irrelevant this game, seeing as both sides have access to it. There is no con other than discussion about it taking up space and thought power that can be put to better use. I've basically decided to ignore the claims. I do however find it weird people are claiming on day 1.
I think this game is infested with masons and jacks, and I think the sooner we realize this, the sooner we can actually start getting something done.
I think Ciryandor may have screwed up in his very first post. Of all the things in that post what struck me as odd was the speculation if sandroba and I were going to run, just the way it was worded and in the context of his post, it feels like a very insecure statement.
I also think BC is a good lynch, because his claim is strictly bad. However, there also exists a scenario where BC believes he's doing something good, when he isn't, and it doesn't make him scum. I'm not sure.
Of other people I think VE should be treated as town if CC flips. As scum he'd have used his tunnel on me as an excuse to shoot me, I think. I'm on the fence about bugs. I think Refallen is very townie (or Cwave now). Meapak already looks like town. Kenpachi deserves a bullet, as usual.
And still you think it's my play that's bad?
Your scum play is excellent, but your town play is really lacking. Also, this is why mayor games suck. I would never have gotten majority lynched, because majority of people aren't stupid. BC didn't even announce he was lynching me until after he had been elected, although he hinted at it.
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On January 25 2012 00:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 23:35 Palmar wrote:@Bugs: Even after explaining very clearly why you had no chance of being correct (see spoilered). + Show Spoiler +On January 14 2012 20:57 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 20:51 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 14 2012 20:08 Palmar wrote:On January 14 2012 20:04 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 14 2012 20:02 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 14 2012 19:59 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 14 2012 19:57 Palmar wrote: Wherebugsgo, can you summarize your case against me in one post so I can break it down and tell you why you're dumb and bad, possibly scum. I don't explain shit to scum Explain it to me then. go read my filter in one word, meta. So, knowing each game is a different game, and that meta is not valid unless it's applied very precisely (you can't say something like x has posted less than usual, what's important is how, why and what he has posted), you still think that you have a valid enough case? Would you bet your abilities as a player on this case? if I'm wrong about you being scum right now it reflects more on how bad your play is right now than mine. The fact that you are willing to try and guilt me into laying off you suggests you already know I'm town. Otherwise, you wouldn't ask whether I am willing to bet my abilities as a player on this case, since if I was scum I'd have no vested interest in something like that. So, that just strengthens my case even more. TL;DR, go die, scum. No, because you don't have a case. My play is in no way, shape, or form bad. Take away the Palmar name, and you have someone you'd probably have a town read on. This means you're not reading the game objectively, and thus it's your play that's bad, not mine. If you remove meta from a case, it should still have some merit to it. Does yours? The only possible way you're playing well right now, is if you're scum. And the fact that I provided some excellent analysis: + Show Spoiler +On January 15 2012 06:20 Palmar wrote: @Sheth: No, you don't look scummy for defending me, mafia knows my alignment, but you could also simply have come to the correct conclusion. My current read on you is null, or maybe slightly leaning town
There is no real benefit in the mason thing, as the role is almost completely irrelevant this game, seeing as both sides have access to it. There is no con other than discussion about it taking up space and thought power that can be put to better use. I've basically decided to ignore the claims. I do however find it weird people are claiming on day 1.
I think this game is infested with masons and jacks, and I think the sooner we realize this, the sooner we can actually start getting something done.
I think Ciryandor may have screwed up in his very first post. Of all the things in that post what struck me as odd was the speculation if sandroba and I were going to run, just the way it was worded and in the context of his post, it feels like a very insecure statement.
I also think BC is a good lynch, because his claim is strictly bad. However, there also exists a scenario where BC believes he's doing something good, when he isn't, and it doesn't make him scum. I'm not sure.
Of other people I think VE should be treated as town if CC flips. As scum he'd have used his tunnel on me as an excuse to shoot me, I think. I'm on the fence about bugs. I think Refallen is very townie (or Cwave now). Meapak already looks like town. Kenpachi deserves a bullet, as usual.
And still you think it's my play that's bad? Your scum play is excellent, but your town play is really lacking. Also, this is why mayor games suck. I would never have gotten majority lynched, because majority of people aren't stupid. BC didn't even announce he was lynching me until after he had been elected, although he hinted at it. to repeat what I have said to a few people. Day 1 I got back from work 10ish minutes before the lynch and had to catch up on all the posts made from when i had left like 6 hours before or something like that. The heaviest push on you happened more or less as I left. As i was in a rush to avoid a modkill your name went down as up til I left you were pretty apathetic. Had i been able to fully catch up on the thread before the deadline I most likely wouldn't have picked you, doesn't really mean much now however lol
Yes, by your response I figured as much. It really did seem like you genuinely just went with an easy lynch since you didn't have time to actually scumhunt.
I mean, I don't care that much, it's actually a good opportunity for people to understand why meta is bad. It's bad play, and I'm certain that in hindsight you agree it was bad play, but I mean, we all fuck up. Me lynching YM in that huge-ass game wasn't much better, although I did provide a case, but that case just concluded he was being an asshole, which should have told me he's town, not the other way around.
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