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On January 15 2012 18:15 Cyber_Cheese wrote: What are your thoughts on: Palmars lynch/WBG, is WBG scummy? No, I don't think WBG is scummy. I was reading through WBG's filter over and over; WBG starts his case on Palmar here, RIGHT after Palmar posts that he isn't interested in running in the election. He sees Palmar not running and is instantly suspicious; whether or not meta is reliable, WBG goes directly on Palmar with pressure. contrast this with this post by zeks, where he's all like "Palmar doing something fishy... hmm I find that moderately suspicious!". Meanwhile, WBG says "palmar is scum bitch" 45 minutes after Palmar says that. I don't feel like WBG enacted a pre-mediated smear campaign on Palmar; he legitimately thought Palmar was scum based off meta and weak posting from Palmar, who had enough time to exonerate himself. Palmars lynch/BC choosing him, did you agree with this? ..............................................I read through BC's filter, but not as extensively as I did on WBG. BC's filter is almost compltely clutterd with mason talk. The question is, when did he decide that Palmar was the correct lynch choice? He only mentions Palmar directly ONCE in this post. A pretty good post, but why didn't he specify that Palmar was his lynch choice earlier. I might've missed it, if I did then excuse me, but BC hardly talked about who he was planning to lynch, save for this, I think. Whether this was because he didn't think he would win election, or some other reason, it still stands that he isn't being fully transparent. BC, why did you decide Palmar was the right choice? BM/BC being the elected pair? I think BM is town. I don't really understand BM's reputation, he was banned, but is he still considered a strong player? Regardless, I like it. BC I don't know. Who would you look into lynching next and why? Macpo, Chaosquo, Ciry. Will go indepth into them later; partly inspired by Foolishness and Palmar. Double Lynch tomorrow? I would say absolutely not, but depending on the situation of the thread it might be tenable... I need to research large games / impact of multiple lynches. Cyber_Cheese, can you link me a game where you were town? I glanced through some of your previous games but they were all scum LOL. Sleeping, laterz | ||
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 apologies for my GROSS NEGLIGENCE AND INACTIVITY, reading through everything now. I hope someone pointed out my inactivity... not nearly as much discussion on Day 2 as Day 1, I take some blame. | ||
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On January 17 2012 04:27 rtgICEMAN wrote: At this point i feel like there can be soo many guys suspected as scum, includet me.JayJay's post is rather unusual vague at the end then a realistic post.he says about alot of players then marks sandro as scum.Thought I appreciate his effort for this post, i kinda not agree with its conclusion.I ll keep an eye on GGQ and on lanaia and ill vote someone in the next 12 hours. Does anyone else think that this post is horrendous? It's incredibly neutral, saying that "man there's a lot of people who look scummy, don't know what to do", which is kind of trivializing discussion. and slightly discredits jay's post, and his conclusion that sandro is scum. Eh. Post history is so sparse though; I would be more fervant against him if it wasn't for him being suspicious of Macpo before it was cool to. I don't see him bussing his teammate so early. Any thoughts on him jay? | ||
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On January 18 2012 22:07 Toadesstern wrote: why? I still stand by everything I said: They looked scummy but since they're both lurkers / new players to me they're hard to read. Didn't you try to get GGQ lynched instead? what's the difference here? Why do you mention sandroba or protact but do not mention GGQ? yeah what I said before was stupid, you're wrong. pushing Sandroba is a badly formulated mislynch, budday | ||
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On January 18 2012 11:23 Adam4167 wrote: + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + On January 18 2012 05:14 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Adam4167 (Filter link) Nobody picked up on this. Not sure why it never garnered more discussion. It's fear mongering, to try and not protect the best scum-hunters what? There were, and still are, a ton of options for dealing with this, which could leave town with trading 2 for 2 if both are replaced. There seems to be a huge lack of content. This is his best post to date: + Show Spoiler + On January 15 2012 20:01 Adam4167 wrote: Filter problems: -glurio’s filter is linked to D3’s. -Jackals filter is linked to glurio’s. Palmars lynch/WBG, is WBG scummy? - Im disappointed that Palmar was yet again made a focus of discussion on day 1, but he was right, there was almost 10 people doing far less then him (incoming modkills), yet he gets flack for it, based solely on his name (meta). - As far as the WBG situation, I can see it going either way, right now he’s null to me but I cant fault him for wanting more out of Palmar, I did too. Palmars lynch/BC choosing him, did you agree with this? -Nope, should have followed his read and hung protactinium. Not that I think Prot is scum, I don’t, otherwise I wouldn’t have voted for him, but if BC is going to be swayed by the loudest voice in the mob, he may as well have just stepped down and let someone else win. I wanted someone who was confident in his reads, not making compromises with his suspicious mason buddy. BM/BC being the elected pair? -Well, I didn’t vote for either of them. Right now I like Bill Murray a whole lot more then I like BC. He’s posting, maintaining a good thread presence, contributing in the discussion. BC’s rash Palmar lynch, which seemingly came out of the blue, has me concerned that it went to the wrong place. Who would you look into lynching next and why? -Right now, I think VE is doing a good job of causing chaos and being a general distraction. I wouldn’t be adverse to him dying, regardless of his retardo jack claim. Palmar thought Ciryandor was scum, and now that we know it was coming from town Palmar, I give it weight. -I want to see what information our modkills bring, plus the nightkills. I am hoping maybe one or two scum get flipped in the modkills or vig fire, then I can start looking for associations. -I’m surprised Erandorr didn’t come under fire for his meta of refusing to play scum, and posting nil this game. I’ll be watching his replacement like a hawk. Double Lynch tomorrow? -Im all for a double lynch tomorrow. Less people shitting up this thread is good because I’m spending 3 hours catching up on this thread after I wake up, then a further couple of hours reading filters (/whine). On a more useful note, increasing our KP is a good idea. I find Jacks and Vigs far less reliable and am much more in favour of democratic scum killing then “I DON’T LIKE WHAT YOURE SAYING, ILL BLOW YOUR FACE OFF CHEESE” kind of ‘scum’ killing. On another note: -I asked GGQ a question, never got an answer. I can only assume he’s read it. His last post said “I’ve only read up to page 57”, and my question was on page 50. Id have really preferred the answer before Palmar was lynched. He’s ended up on Foolishes watch list, and his last post is defending someone on Foolishes scum list, so Ill be keeping an eye on this one for sure. But it only spawned because I specifically asked him about it. Why do you want my opinion on you? If we were both town, How would that help us in any way shape or form? It seems like an 'Am I hiding well?' type question. Shutting down discussion on candidates other than Macpo? My vote is definitely not necessary if we want Macpo lynched. Nice case there cheese /rolleyes That first post you’ve quoted is not fearmongering. That was a strategy discussion and I brought it up to potentially thwart scum knocking off both of our elected officials and some of our best scum hunters. Yes, my filter is lacking, I acknowledge that right here link my friend died in a car accident on the weekend. The only reason I haven’t asked for a replacement is because I know there aren’t any, with close to 10 people getting modkilled. You said it yourself “If we were both town”. I don’t know if you’re town, I’m really doubting it now though. I do find your case on me interesting however, not once do you call me scum. You try to cast doubt on me and construe things in a way that make them look worse then they are. Are you trying to see if your case takes off before you finally come out and say it? Lets see how you answered that post where I asked you about myself and ech: -VE could be town or scum. Thanks for that one Sherlock. -Null on Kenpachi -Null to weak town on kingjames -Null on Echelon -Null on me Are you even trying? On January 18 2012 05:25 wherebugsgo wrote: Oh kill that Adam guy too, he's been saying weird shit for days. Bugs, you want me dead because you think I’m saying ‘weird shit’? I’m here to kill scum, not people who say stuff I don’t agree with. Are you? 1. sorry about your friend. 2. do you really doubt CC is town? I think he's town. I thought you were scum but not quite anymore. 3. who do you want to lynch now? Town direction is skewy. I'm only strong for Chaosquo, don't know about 2nd target yet. | ||
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I thought BM was town for a long time, but I realized I only thought this because he called a bunch of people town, who I also thought were town. Which is utter garbage because that's all he's really done... there's a lot of other weird stuff like having a STRONG TOWN tell on nisani and Adam which makes no sense considering their light post count. His list, which has a number of problems. People mentioned the Lanaia thing; I'm not sure if anyone noticed that he had previously marked Kurumi and OpZ as scum/suspicious here, yet on the list they are Town and Don't Want to Lynch respectively. Weird stuff. Considering Kurumi flipped blue later, and OpZ is on heavy scrutiny now, I could see this as BM trying to 1. show support for kurumi who he knows is going to be shot, and 2. try and give OpZ towncred. I'm down to lynch, but I'd like to see the opinions of people who previously expressed knowledge of the mind of BM. | ||
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On January 19 2012 11:36 VisceraEyes wrote: I haven't liked his play on the whole, but scum tend to not push a candidate like Sandroba with as much fervor as Toad has...plus his case is pretty good aside from it being based mostly on what Sandroba has NOT done instead of what he HAS done. And I DO like GGQ as a candidate, and never ever said that I don't support it "because it's vet-supported". I only assumed that GGQ was the sub-out of HIS lynches because BM is far scummier (imo), and once vets set their sights, they're not moved by the likes of Toad and I (and you and ANYONE who's not a vet.) It's not their way - and it's what makes them good at what they do. Now, care to explain your blatant misrepresentation of my post? 5 pages ago you said Toad was one of your lynch choices. But then you said you support Toad's view on Sandroba. I don't usually support the viewpoints of people I think are scum, which is why your post looked glaringly weird. If you changed your mind on Toad, whatever. Just a little inconsistent is all as you never indicated a change. I didn't say you don't support GGQ as a candidate. I wasn't sure if you were just being insecure about vets being more right than you are, of if you were being uneasy because you felt vets were wrongly tunneling. ...yeah. No, I didn't blatantly misrepresent your post. I asked you questions. | ||
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