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I know bc claimed mason I know opz claimed mason I know jitsu claimed mason I know supersoft claimed mason am I missing someone? | ||
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BC Supersoft opz jitsu glurio I'd say out of those two BC & opz sounds reasonable or only BC. This is speculation but let me explain my train of thoughts: What we lynched so far: Godfather + Goon + Goon + Goon So 6 people are left and we only found 1 powerrole, their beloved godfather. Let's just assume mafia HAS at least 1 mason. Do you think they would give mason powers to people like jitsu? I mean mason? They could give him another power role, no problem because those new people get away with lurking way more than people like BC. Therefore he's more safe and they can talk about how he would use it. Let me get this clear: I am NOT sayin jitsu is mafia, it's a thought experiment (wtf, dict.cc says it's "Gedankenexperiment" in english as well? That's german :p ). Especially mason is hard to do for new players so BC makes perfect sense. Also Godfather on L makes perfect sense if BC is mayor because they don't need to godfather BC if he gets mayor. He's immune to DT's. Given what I just said and yes it is speculation it sounds perfectly reasonable that BC might as well be a Mason and those other 3 power roles might or might now be hidden within lurkers. However again, I doubt mafia would give people like glurio or jitsu mason. I could see opz or Supersoft as reasonable but other than that? Of course that implies that there's no other masons around who did not claim until now but since noone said a thing I'd say there's noone left. If there is another mason or you've been masoned by someone you're a moron and need to tell us. I really don't see how mafia gave mason powers to someone like I already mentioned. Why did L flip without mason? Why did Sandroba flip without mason? Because there's another good player in here who's got mason powers, and that player is BC. | ||
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On January 24 2012 07:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: well toad allow me to speculate as well. If BC is mafia then he had to spend literally hours faking a chat log with sandroba. HOURS. do you get how long they talked? And how casually as well? That's not something that can just get faked like that. Maybe I'm getting played like a boss, however I cannot mentally accept that BC and sandroba faked that entire convo when both were scum. Now let's talk opz. He's a vet, he's been around for several years iirc. If you think that a mason has to be a vet then opz fits your bill just about as well as BC. This is completely ignoring play as well. I would argue that BC has been more or less helpful to the town, meanwhile opz has been fairly bad. Also since we're speculating, no one who's gone after BC hardcore has ended up dead. Meanwhile the person who went after opz the hardest ended up dead. Just consider that while we're speculating toad  That goes out to both, you and BC: Yes I considered opz as well, that's why I said "probably BC + opz or only BC" early on. It's not even meant to be a case to lynch someone but rather a defence. I thought glurio might be scummy but given what I just said I'm not going to lynch him, same with jitsu and cwave because I don't think mafia would chose them to be masons at all. It's a fos and something to discuss about. Yeah I see the problems you mention BC and those are the reason I haven't said that I want to lynch you. | ||
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if BM flips green I'd like to lynch BC+opz tomorrow. If BM flips red I'd like to lynch ops + someone else | ||
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Well what about the fact that you lynched 2 townies so far? What happens if BM flips green? A green hattrick? We probably not going to get someone else lynched but if that happens you're going to hang. What about the fact that you've done nearly nothing for town so far? Sure you're mason and have important stuff to do in pm-land but that's also a nice excuse isn't it? What about the fact that you said early on that we won't lynch someone today but BC (if I recall correctly here) and for the rest of the day you've been standing next to us, doing nothing but watching the thread? Sure that's what a townie does. What about all your talk with foolish and protact? Am I the only one who thinks that you're desperatly trying to get towncred? Like you really HAVE TO point out that you're so protown? | ||
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On January 24 2012 07:43 Toadesstern wrote: and about solid reasons about BC: Well what about the fact that you lynched 2 townies so far? What happens if BM flips green? A green hattrick? We probably not going to get someone else lynched but if that happens you're going to hang. What about the fact that you've done nearly nothing for town so far? Sure you're mason and have important stuff to do in pm-land but that's also a nice excuse isn't it? What about the fact that you said early on that we won't lynch someone today but BM (if I recall correctly here) and for the rest of the day you've been standing next to us, doing nothing but watching the thread? Sure that's what a townie does. What about all your talk with foolish and protact? Am I the only one who thinks that you're desperatly trying to get towncred? Like you really HAVE TO point out that you're so protown? EBWOP | ||
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It's a part of todays log (I'm only quoting the part I need to quote) both in german and english, it's really short because I did those posts on BC on purpose: + Show Spoiler [german] + Session Start: Mon Jan 23 23:35:36 2012 Session Ident: supers [23:35] Session Ident: supers (QuakeNet, Toad|)(censored) [23:36] <supers> also warte [23:36] <supers> sehr geil [23:36] <supers> dein post ist richtig gut angekommen [23:37] <supers> das lockt die ganzen trottel aus ihren löchern [23:37] <supers> perfekt 01[23:37] <Toad|> ja wollte was zum diskutieren kriegen [23:37] <supers> sogar slardar lässt sich zu einem kommentar hinreißen 01[23:37] <Toad|> und endlich was von BC hören [23:37] <supers> ja!!!!! [23:37] <supers> extrem gut [23:37] <supers> wir machen das noch weiter [23:37] <supers> also 01[23:37] <Toad|> also hab ich einfach mal die logischen lücken ignoriert [23:37] <supers> du machst BC noch ein bisschen an 01[23:37] <Toad|> und hoffe dass mich keiner dafür lyncht :D [23:37] <supers> nein [23:37] <supers> weil ich ja beweisen kann, [23:37] <supers> dass du das absichtlich machst [23:37] <supers> um diskussion zu erzeugen [23:37] <supers> das ist perfekt [23:38] <supers> so machen wirs [23:38] <supers> mach mal weiter [23:38] <supers> und wir schaun [23:38] <supers> wer drauf anspringt [23:38] <supers> wenn BC town ist [23:38] <supers> dann macht die mafia da mit [23:38] <supers> die müssen ihn anschiessen [23:38] <supers> wenn danach rauskommt, dass du das nur gefaked hast [23:38] <supers> dann stehen sie komplett nakt da censored by sopa [23:39] <supers> BM ist wahrscheinlich einfach nur ein idiot [23:39] <supers> er könnte noch von Nutzen sein [23:40] <supers> wenn nicht dann nicht [23:42] <supers> slardar war orange [23:42] <supers> ay ay ay [23:52] <supers> haha [23:53] <supers> okay du solltest es lassen ^_^ censored by sopa [23:53] <supers> lass es mal noch ne stunde dahinstehen [23:53] <supers> ich bin ma ne runde LOL nerden [23:53] <supers> ^_:^ 01[23:53] <Toad|> :p + Show Spoiler [english] + Session Start: Mon Jan 23 23:35:36 2012 Session Ident: supers [23:35] Session Ident: supers (QuakeNet, Toad|) (webchat@XXXXXXXX) [23:35] <supers> sehr gut - 01[23:35] supers is webchat@XXXXXXXXX * http://webchat.quakenet.org 01[23:35] supers on #TLMafia 01[23:35] supers using *.quakenet.org QuakeNet IRC Server 01[23:35] supers End of /WHOIS list. - 01[23:36] <Toad|> yeah thought the same when I read that post [23:36] <supers> ok wait [23:36] <supers> really awesome [23:36] <supers> your post got a lot of attention [23:37] <supers> it gets all those fools crawl out of their holes [23:37] <supers> perfect 01[23:37] <Toad|> yeah wanted to generate something for discussion [23:37] <supers> even slardar is posting something 01[23:37] <Toad|> and get some information about BC [23:37] <supers> yes!!!!! [23:37] <supers> really awesome [23:37] <supers> we're going to continue with that [23:37] <supers> ok 01[23:37] <Toad|> so I just ignored everything that's not making sense [23:37] <supers> keep on hitting BC 01[23:37] <Toad|> and I hope that noone is going to get my lynched for that :p [23:37] <supers> no [23:37] <supers> I can prove [23:37] <supers> that you did that on purpose [23:37] <supers> to generate some discussion [23:37] <supers> that's perfect [23:38] <supers> that's how we're going to proceed [23:38] <supers> keep on going [23:38] <supers> and we'll see [23:38] <supers> who jumps on that [23:38] <supers> if BC's town [23:38] <supers> mafia will want to get on that [23:38] <supers> they have to discredit him [23:38] <supers> later when everyone knows this was faked [23:38] <supers> they'll be completly fucked censored by sopa! [23:39] <supers> BM's probably just an idiot [23:39] <supers> and might come in handy [23:40] <supers> if not who cares [23:42] <supers> slardar was orange [23:42] <supers> ay ay ay [23:52] <supers> haha [23:53] <supers> okay you should stop ^-^ censored by sopa! [23:53] <supers> just wait for another hour [23:53] <supers> I'm playing LOL [23:53] <supers> ^_:^ 01[23:53] <Toad|> :p censored reads about townies a bit and only included the important stuff. So yeah. It was meant to generate some discussion and get people take somebody's side. Even got slardar talking so yeah, sry for looking so foolish but I really did want to get some information and I did not think that we could or even should try to avoid a BM lynch, because the situation about him is not going to get better and we'd have the exact same situation tomorrow again. | ||
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On January 24 2012 11:22 jcarlsoniv wrote: Let me elaborate. I did not personally tell the bodyguards that they are. Whether or not flamewheel did, I do not know. that's kind of important to know right now | ||
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just a question, did you read what I posted about those BC-posts? | ||
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you haven't given me a single reason why you think I am mafia, same goes for wbg. VE thinks I'm mafia because I did not believe his claim because of that random pattern+ I did not know you can't RB vets, which was a huge deal for me because that explains why mafia did not RB him. But yeah sure, lynch the guy who lynched macpo, made everyone voted Sandroba and lynched BM. | ||
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On January 24 2012 12:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote: EBWOP Forgot the third name Kenpachi. Of the bgs he seems the shiftiest. other names that stand out fast, lanaia, bum, slardar. pretty much agree here, However I'd swap lanaia with nisani. So for me it's opz,glurio, 1 or 2 out of (kenpachi+bum+nisani) | ||
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On January 24 2012 12:18 wherebugsgo wrote: BC that's two reads, not 3... lul also I agree with you. The third I'd say is a toss up between like, Brownbear, Echelontee, vaderseven, and Toad. Ofc I'm only including Toad in there now because it's been fun trolling him for the past day when I actually haven't even believed he's scum. oh come on screw you. People like VE and Jitsu are actually believing what you're saying... You think it's going to be helpful when we try to get opz lynched tomorrow and CC, VE and jitsu are voting me instead? | ||
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