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Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 08 2011 17:18 GMT
#7
/in
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 14 2011 02:58 GMT
#123
/confirm
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 14 2011 21:10 GMT
#192
sure
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 14 2011 22:46 GMT
#229
On August 15 2011 07:44 Navillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 07:40 Varpulis wrote:
http://pastebin.com/7uvxnYP2

slam500 is shifty as hell. Convo i had with him, i'm oystermeister, he's [zEn]slam500.


I disagree, not wanting to draw attention is a scum thing, saying that you don't want to draw attention looks more like a noob who doesn't want to be the day 1 lynch because he said something stupid, for example because he mentioned he didn't want to draw attention then got killed for it.


why didn't you let him defend himself? there was pressure on slam and you jsut gave him a way out of it without him dogin anything.
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 15 2011 15:04 GMT
#291
On August 15 2011 23:49 Varpulis wrote:
statistically unlikely, but possible that at least one of the scum hasn't posted yet. Lots of vets too. JeeJee, OrigninalName (vets compared to the very new playerbase of this game)


ON was in irc saying he was going until sometime today.
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 16 2011 00:47 GMT
#352
On August 16 2011 09:40 Nisani201 wrote:
Forumite isn't a good lynch for today. Though it might seem like he is just randomly babbling on about stuff if you look through the filter, it should be noted that they were mainly responding to someone else. So it's not spam.


He may have been responding to other people but he has yet to post any real opinions and has been only responding to questions. don't you think that makes him scummy?
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 16 2011 20:01 GMT
#376
On August 16 2011 04:08 Nisani201 wrote:
At least, I don't think they can.


This is the scum slip imo. not that he thinks that mafia didn't have any KP. Why would he try to make himself look like he wasn't sure unless after he posted he realized it wasn't common knowledge. I mean most people prob thought that the scum must not have had KP last night but hes the person who said it then tried to make it look like he wasn't certain.
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 17 2011 18:18 GMT
#469
On August 18 2011 03:13 Jackal58 wrote:
Why the fuck would you tell somebody in PMs the name of our medic?


this is what I Was thinking. What could that have done why would someone do this as a scum trap? sure but don't use a real medic....
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 17 2011 22:08 GMT
#498
I'm still looking at Nisani as scummy but i'm going to go back and look at forumite again.
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 18 2011 20:18 GMT
#536
What do you guys think of Dropbear
I feel like his plan and the whole rival thing still hasn't been addressed, The whole part about rivals claims seems like a great way for scum to have people to frame. kill someones rival they look like scum so they get lynched aka almost getting a free KP and wasting a lynch.


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On August 15 2011 05:52 DropBear wrote:
I present to you: THE PLAN!!!

[image loading]


CLAIMING

Traits are not alignment based so anyone with the following traits should openly claim immediately:

- Rivals should claim once Day 1 has started. Rivals are much more likely to be townies than Mafia. Mafia already have their rivals: the town. Not only this, it puts into perspective your motivations in getting specific people killed. If you prove yourself useful and don't fuck things up you will be assisted where possible in achieving your goals.

- Short Fuse should claim and never use their power of modkill. If you fail or succeed, deliberately goading people will shit up the thread to no end. Also it makes us seriously consider the lynching of a Short Fuse, the potential of having a VisceraEyes/BC event needs to be known beforehand.

- Rabid Fanboy #1. You are essentially a mayor. Do not use this power without first putting it out in the open. We get a replacement if you die anyway so you are not as important as other roles, no need to hide.

- Thief. The rapidly increasing chances of being instalynched as roles are stolen means that scum theives would be unlikely to risk stealing a role a second time, 1for1 trades are not good for Mafia. Claim outright so we can work out when and if you use your role.

Additionally, all players should claim their roles, traits and alignments to me via PM asap :D

VOTING

Multiple lynches should be avoided on the first few days. We can save them until later when we have more information. Especially with the Night 0 start where people will probably die before we can get a lynch off, we can't just start offing large numbers of people straight away if we mislynch we get fucked much quicker.

CELLS

Are stupid. From what I have read in past games everyone ignores them and chooses to PM whoever they please. I am in favour of communicating with who you want and whoever wants to talk to you, forcing people into an arbitrarily formed cell doesn't make sense when the formation of such groups can easily be biased.

Discuss!

Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 18 2011 20:30 GMT
#538
im a retard that is all
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 18 2011 20:44 GMT
#542
On August 19 2011 05:33 OriginalName wrote:
I personally feel like lynching trotske.

Do you know why:

First he doesnt read who dies,
lurks like mad,
Then sends me this PM N0 before i have even posted.


Show nested quote +
Original Message From Trotske:
I am a Rival with Hiro Protagonist

Rivals: These players hate each other obsessively, and must do everything in their power to eliminate their rival. If a person's rival is alive at the end of the game, they lose, no matter which side wins, if their rival/s is killed, they will in turn win if alive at endgame, and their side wins. They will know the name of their rival/s from the start.

I'm telling you this because you said you would be inactive until after the day post. and I don't have any sort of scum lean on you.

If I die to a mafia hit look at his ass. I have to this information to Sevryn also. in the event he posts after I die and it doesn't say anything about hiro look at him as mafia also.


He claims to me then Contradicts with this post

What do you guys think of Dropbear
I feel like his plan and the whole rival thing still hasn't been addressed, The whole part about rivals claims seems like a great way for scum to have people to frame. kill someones rival they look like scum so they get lynched aka almost getting a free KP and wasting a lynch.

I just dont know what to think of this anymore. We need to pressure him, we need him to be here and contribute.

##Vote Trotske


I sent you that PM because I was afraid Hiro could be scum and kil lme night one so I wanted to make sure that someone knew.
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 18 2011 20:44 GMT
#543
oh and sorry ive been inactive im not a fan of spam a thread and I have commented when I thought I should.
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 18 2011 21:01 GMT
#546
I didn't the whole reason I chose you was because you had said you were afk for a day in IRC aka not going to take an action n0. I had told sevryn without thinking and was trying to recover from this mistake aka making sure that someone else knew.
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 18 2011 21:02 GMT
#547
and sevryn why didn't you bring it up sooner? seems scummy to me.
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 18 2011 21:21 GMT
#550
reads from the bottom up

+ Show Spoiler +
16:13 -!- OriginalName [webchat@S01060026f3985757.wp.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed]
16:13 < Sknowman>
16:13 < OriginalName>
16:13 < OriginalName> you cant kill me
16:13 < OriginalName> No sknow
16:13 < OriginalName> Good shit
16:13 < taa__> but sure
16:12 < taa__> already tried to vote
16:12 < Sknowman> can we kill you?
16:12 < taa__> its night
16:12 < OriginalName> ok?
16:12 < OriginalName> till I get back
16:12 < OriginalName> dont fucking kill each other guys
16:12 < OriginalName> im gonna be inactive till later tonight/early tommorrow
16:12 < taa__> kratos who bist du?
16:12 < OriginalName> Ok
16:11 < Sknowman> *lost*
16:11 < Kratos_2_0> the host and the cohost both confirmed it -___
16:11 < taa__> lol
16:11 < taa__> and it turned out to be a lie
16:11 < taa__> then the co host confirmed that
16:11 < taa__> or it was drazerk who said that
16:10 < taa__> he migh have been
16:10 < taa__> conspirator : nukes dont cause radiation
16:10 < Varpulis> wasn't palmar conspirator?
16:10 < taa__> this is what happened
16:10 < taa__> he didnt get lynched
16:10 < taa__> it took a caller move
16:10 < Varpulis> he even claimed and got lynched, right?
16:10 < taa__> well
16:10 < Varpulis> called it from the start lol
16:10 < Varpulis> free win for conspirator
16:10 < Nisani201> Poor poor bennet
16:09 < Sknowman> crazy from the start
16:09 < Sknowman> looked
16:09 < Sknowman> i didnt keep up with that
16:09 < taa__> poor poor navilus lol
16:09 -!- OriginalName [webchat@S01060026f3985757.
wp.shawcable.net] has joined #loonybin
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 18 2011 21:22 GMT
#551
messed up spoiler T.T

+ Show Spoiler +
16:13 -!- OriginalName [webchat@S01060026f3985757.wp.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed]
16:13 < Sknowman>
16:13 < OriginalName>
16:13 < OriginalName> you cant kill me
16:13 < OriginalName> No sknow
16:13 < OriginalName> Good shit
16:13 < taa__> but sure
16:12 < taa__> already tried to vote
16:12 < Sknowman> can we kill you?
16:12 < taa__> its night
16:12 < OriginalName> ok?
16:12 < OriginalName> till I get back
16:12 < OriginalName> dont fucking kill each other guys
16:12 < OriginalName> im gonna be inactive till later tonight/early tommorrow
16:12 < taa__> kratos who bist du?
16:12 < OriginalName> Ok
16:11 < Sknowman> *lost*
16:11 < Kratos_2_0> the host and the cohost both confirmed it -___
16:11 < taa__> lol
16:11 < taa__> and it turned out to be a lie
16:11 < taa__> then the co host confirmed that
16:11 < taa__> or it was drazerk who said that
16:10 < taa__> he migh have been
16:10 < taa__> conspirator : nukes dont cause radiation
16:10 < Varpulis> wasn't palmar conspirator?
16:10 < taa__> this is what happened
16:10 < taa__> he didnt get lynched
16:10 < taa__> it took a caller move
16:10 < Varpulis> he even claimed and got lynched, right?
16:10 < taa__> well
16:10 < Varpulis> called it from the start lol
16:10 < Varpulis> free win for conspirator
16:10 < Nisani201> Poor poor bennet
16:09 < Sknowman> crazy from the start
16:09 < Sknowman> looked
16:09 < Sknowman> i didnt keep up with that
16:09 < taa__> poor poor navilus lol
16:09 -!- OriginalName [webchat@S01060026f3985757.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #loonybin
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 18 2011 21:23 GMT
#552
So i figured that you had left and wouldn't be back hence you wouldn't take an action.
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 18 2011 22:18 GMT
#556
On August 19 2011 07:11 hiro protagonist wrote:
Cool story Trotske, but I am not your rival, so you dont have to worry about Me tunneling or killing you... at least, not until I think your scum

I PMed GMan, and he said it is possible for someone to have a rival that is not a rival back, so you might not be lying.


Are you a rival?
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 18 2011 22:31 GMT
#558
On August 19 2011 07:25 Curu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 07:18 OriginalName wrote:
On August 19 2011 07:00 Curu wrote:
ON take a step back, think about the Trotske/hiro situation again, and lemme know if you come to a new conclusion.


Meh i got what I wanted out of this.


Which was?

For anyone who doesn't get my meaning, if either of Trotske/hiro were rivals and scum, one would have definitely shot the other during the night.

Thus I don't understand your vote on Trotske.


This is why night one when I thought scum had a KP I wanted to make sure someone knew who my rival was.

Can we please get on with the game and start looking for scum people.
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 18 2011 23:11 GMT
#563
On August 19 2011 08:04 Forumite wrote:
Okay, something is going on here. Either Trotske and Hiro really are Rivals, and Hiro is trying to get Trotske killed by lying about it, Trotske is scum and is trying to get Hiro lynched with this rival accusation, or both are scum. They are both sticking to their stories, so it doesn´t look like Trotskes PM was a trick. Town don´t lie, but Rival Town has other priorities, they need to kill a player and stay alive, both are anti-Town goals, as they divert from scumhunting. Being rivals doesn´t make them Scum, but if they really are scum pretending to be Rivals, being known as Rivals is a good way to hide scummy behavior. I don´t like it, so I´m putting on the pressure.

##Vote: Trotske

Quoted posts: + Show Spoiler +
Original Message From Trotske:
I am a Rival with Hiro Protagonist

Rivals: These players hate each other obsessively, and must do everything in their power to eliminate their rival. If a person's rival is alive at the end of the game, they lose, no matter which side wins, if their rival/s is killed, they will in turn win if alive at endgame, and their side wins. They will know the name of their rival/s from the start.

I'm telling you this because you said you would be inactive until after the day post. and I don't have any sort of scum lean on you.

If I die to a mafia hit look at his ass. I have to this information to Sevryn also. in the event he posts after I die and it doesn't say anything about hiro look at him as mafia also.
On August 19 2011 07:11 hiro protagonist wrote:
Cool story Trotske, but I am not your rival, so you dont have to worry about Me tunneling or killing you... at least, not until I think your scum

I PMed GMan, and he said it is possible for someone to have a rival that is not a rival back, so you might not be lying.


Just curious did you read the last page?


Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 19 2011 01:21 GMT
#577
I'm also going to vote Forumite due to the fact that alot of his posts are just pure info with little analasis. and some of his reason's are very poor for who he goes after. and he's the scummiest person we have a chance to lynch.
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 19 2011 01:39 GMT
#579
On August 19 2011 10:34 Sevryn wrote:
I'm really not convinced about Forumite alot of his posts just look like confused townie


Who do you think is a better lynch.
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 20 2011 19:34 GMT
#654
On August 20 2011 09:28 snotboogie wrote:
I'm not convinced either way between Curu and Nisani's argument. I could see a situation where both are town because what Curu is saying makes sense. If he was scum, killing DropBear would pretty much get him killed. Most obvious fish ever. And Nisani may have just played it wrong as town (seriously, who claims DT in a PM that early in the game with no reason to believe in Curu being town?) and then drawn conclusions from that. But then again it wouldn't really surprise me if either one were scum.

I'm putting my vote on Trotske for now. He's been pretty quiet now that the focus has shifted off him and I'd like to put him under some pressure, especially since the questions asked from the following post haven't been answered, as the discussion was sidetracked by asking whether or not rivals could be non-reciprocal. He hasn't accounted for his random Rival claim in N0 yet, which I find very strange.

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 19 2011 05:33 OriginalName wrote:
I personally feel like lynching trotske.

Do you know why:

First he doesnt read who dies,
lurks like mad,
Then sends me this PM N0 before i have even posted.


Show nested quote +
Original Message From Trotske:
I am a Rival with Hiro Protagonist

Rivals: These players hate each other obsessively, and must do everything in their power to eliminate their rival. If a person's rival is alive at the end of the game, they lose, no matter which side wins, if their rival/s is killed, they will in turn win if alive at endgame, and their side wins. They will know the name of their rival/s from the start.

I'm telling you this because you said you would be inactive until after the day post. and I don't have any sort of scum lean on you.

If I die to a mafia hit look at his ass. I have to this information to Sevryn also. in the event he posts after I die and it doesn't say anything about hiro look at him as mafia also.


He claims to me then Contradicts with this post

What do you guys think of Dropbear
I feel like his plan and the whole rival thing still hasn't been addressed, The whole part about rivals claims seems like a great way for scum to have people to frame. kill someones rival they look like scum so they get lynched aka almost getting a free KP and wasting a lynch.

I just dont know what to think of this anymore. We need to pressure him, we need him to be here and contribute.

##Vote Trotske



##Vote Trotske


first of all I went to bed.

Second if you had read my posts you wouldn't be asking why I claimed n0.
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 21 2011 16:48 GMT
#688
sorry lost track of this game the whole day and night at the same time is confusing.
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