ok lucidity originally fos'd redff or whatever for opposing the plan. now that lucidity has dropped the plan why is he still accusing redff? sounds like some major mafia shit to me. team tells him to drop the plan but he still tunnels redff lol

DoctorHelvetica

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August 02 2011 22:05 GMT

#317

townies tend to be more ignorant of rules/the thread than mafia the more confused someone is the less likely they are mafia

mafia will lurk/not post but they pay attentiont oe verythin thats going on thats an important thing to consider

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

August 02 2011 22:13 GMT

#318

btw where is bc lol

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

August 02 2011 22:23 GMT

#327

btw cop check should check bc

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

August 02 2011 22:41 GMT

#329

id rather lynch varp than lucidity right now because of heists chainsaw defense of varpulis and while im 50/50 on the two of them if varp flips that transitions well into day 2

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

August 02 2011 23:07 GMT

#332

lynch kenpachi

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

August 03 2011 00:45 GMT

#344

i said it like twice you were absent for much more than that lol you haven't weighed in on either of the two main lynch candidates and all the shit that has been flying around don't try to turn this around on me

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

August 03 2011 11:40 GMT

#365

I'm far more concerned with the players that appear active but contribute nothing of substance, this is pretty typical mafia behavior. The problem with inactives is that there is nothing to lynch them on one way or another and I think it's better to lynch people who are directly suspicious above people who are simply unhelpful.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

August 03 2011 11:45 GMT

#366

BC's play fits his meta from TLMafia XLII other than the fact that he is posting much less in this game. In that game he made a list of "veteran" players and said it was a bad idea to check them (in this game he is saying I look scummy for saying a DT should check him), here is another direct quote from that game.

" Day 1 with the little discussion overall we have had and the options, I would rather remove someone who isn't contributing positively but avoiding the modkill and being replaced by a player who would actually play."

Does this sort of play fit his town meta as well? I was just looking at the most recent numbered normal game so I'm not sure.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

August 03 2011 11:46 GMT

#367

ah, should have mentioned he was godfather in xlii

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

August 03 2011 13:02 GMT

#374

It isn't scummy that I agree with redFF and ON. ON was giving good advice at a time when people were saying some pretty shockingly bad things. redFF needs to contribute a hell of a lot more in the thread but based on what he was saying in irc and my pms with him his disposition is very sensible and protown, he has exactly the right mindset i think a townie should have but he hasn't been showing it in thread which is going to be a problem later. He acknowledges this.

I don't know how many games you've played Curu, or played with me, but if you look at my meta this is how I play. I change my mind a lot and I have a problem with stating my opinion right away before I settle on something which makes me look really wishy washy. I need to be less impulsive and post less, new players always think I'm scum. But we need to understand changing your mind is NOT a scumtell at all. I just have a haphazard way of posting I guess, it isn't helpful and I need to clean it up.

youngminii tunnels stupid shit as town too and while I think he has decent reasons to suspect mig, using a lynch/dayvig shot on mig would be a terrible idea which I never supported. But this fits both of his metas, strongly. I think mig would make a good DT check and I think in this game the DT's are better off checking the dangerous players unless they have a strong hunch (BC/mig/myself/etc) since the godfather role is randomly assigned.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

August 03 2011 13:05 GMT

#376

I wouldn't mind a DT on munk-e or heist. Heist is the inactive player that sits wrongly with me but that all depends on how varpulis flips. His attack on trotske screamed "chainsaw" to me. I didn't really agree too much with the points he had made either, they were fairly weak.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

August 03 2011 14:03 GMT

#380

I don't think that's a great scumtell, not knowing the rules. I think town is more likely to be confused on that personally.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

August 03 2011 22:11 GMT

#422

fuck yes. surprised heist isn't mafia too. DT's should check BC/JeeJee or anyone connected to Varpulis. If I were DT i'd check BC.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

August 03 2011 22:31 GMT

#430

JeeJee and BC may not both be scum unless BC is simply trying to distance himself from the team. One does not clear the other. I'd be very keen with a vig on JeeJee and a DT on BC.

Since there are only 4 scum in this game. If a DT hits red he should absolutely claim it.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

August 03 2011 22:37 GMT

#432

On August 04 2011 07:36 JeeJee wrote:
lol, i was planning to go with http://www.nelsonhaha.com/ @ minii post-flip

surprising, although the flip doesn't make the argument against varp any less shitty

can you explain what was shitty about it he set off my scum sense right away imo for pretty good reasons maybe you're just bad and don't see how he was scummy

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

August 03 2011 22:46 GMT

#434

On August 03 2011 21:30 Curu wrote:
That's why I said somewhat youngminii.

Another note on Varpulis, he posted an analysis on redFF that used pretty much the exact same words and reasoning as something I brainstormed on Skype, so if he flips red then certainly someone in my Skype circle is also red.

There's the chance that we just saw the exact same thing but I don't think it that likely since a lot of what I was saying came from IRC and I don't think he was even in there at the time (but I don't remember exactly).

who else in your skype circle or is it the rest of your mafia team

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

August 03 2011 22:49 GMT

#438

On August 04 2011 07:39 JeeJee wrote:
no, i don't. perhaps your majesty can enlighten me.

as far as i see, it's the same argument as was against redff, except with pointless meta thrown in. correct me?

Immediate post with advice related to mechanics/irrelevant shit (trying to appear pro town while contributing nothing)
Plays it safe by going with the anti-town plan when everyone seems to agree with sandroba
when people drop the plan he starts arguing vehemently against it then picks it up again out of nowhere (his objective has nothing to do with the plan, since it's anti-town at once, i see this as a fuck up by him)
paragraphs of post with no helpful content, just "pro-town" posturing
most of his posts are related to rules/mechanics and appear helpful but aren't

typical day 1 behavior of a scum ive seen it countless times and now its getting really transparent. it's day 1 no case is "strong" but varpulis was definitely playing like scum and hey it turns out i was right