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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 19 2011 08:53 GMT
#8
It's kinda meant for the new players redFF
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 19 2011 12:22 GMT
#12
On July 19 2011 21:13 sandroba wrote:
Omg it's hard to pass up on Palmar's coaching...


If you ask me anything I'll troll you.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 19 2011 13:26 GMT
#14
On July 19 2011 21:23 sandroba wrote:
I guess I'll join ptp then =/




Really though, this game gives preference to newer players, I'm offering to guide them through the worst newbie mistakes. At your level of play we'd benefit much more from mutual discussion than straight up coaching.

Think of it as me trying to jump-start the completely new guys to a reasonable level, a level where they don't actively sabotage their faction with their posting.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 20 2011 09:15 GMT
#20
On July 20 2011 17:49 Ace wrote:
eh what? This is for new players only? So where do I go for small normals?


you missed merc mini
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 20 2011 11:10 GMT
#22
well fuck coaching then

I'd like to play. if that's ok with you GM?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 20 2011 11:25 GMT
#24
/in
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 20 2011 11:50 GMT
#27
lol ace should like this
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 20 2011 23:52 GMT
#42
@new guys

Just be prepared that this thing is actually hard work.

And don't take anything personally, this is a game.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#76
On July 22 2011 08:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi town! I'm VisceraEyes! Some of you I might know me from the several games I've lost for my team in the past. This game I'm going to turn that around.

Some requests:

If you're fluent in BB formatting, PLEASE use spoilers and quotes. Text walls are easier to swallow when they're broken up. If you're not, please keep your thoughts concise and to the point.

I'd like to try and keep the discussion focused this game. Obviously with such varied personalities, this is likely to be difficult. If we all do our part to keep the thread nice, we may even get to keep the All button! ^^

Probably my most sincere hope is that we avoid some of the mud-slinging and nonsense that tends to go with these games. Obviously some of us are going to get frustrated, but if we all try and primarily attack arguments, not people, I think the game will go a lot smoother.

[image loading]


Nice contribution bro, I think you're legit town.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 22 2011 01:31 GMT
#81
redFF is just saying that because he got lynched day 1 as scum in bc's aa for randomly trying to protect a failure of a town.

Here's a tip for mafia, when townies are about to die, just let them die.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 22 2011 01:32 GMT
#82
On July 22 2011 10:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hmmmmm...ACE with the first scummy post. Go figure.

Ace, what possible information could be gleaned from deciding who to lynch based on randomness (if that's what you're proposing?) I'm relatively new, so forgive if this is something obvious that I just haven't picked up yet...


It's a great idea.

Although, killing the third poster after the daypost has a far higher success-rate.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 22 2011 09:34 GMT
#166
lol, I can see why people say you're good Ace, you somehow convinced half the thread that a random lynch on day 1 is a good idea?

Like, I've played 8 mafia games, 5 of them we've lynched scum or 3rd party on day 1. That's far higher than 25%.

Is this just some clever ploy to start a discussion or try to figure out who is going to be the scummy white knight who trashes your plan?

btw, Killing ace day1 is stupid, just lynch him day 2 because the mafia will shoot him if he's not part of their team.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 22 2011 09:48 GMT
#167
On July 22 2011 09:58 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 09:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
*makes mud-pies* :D

And

##Vote: redFF

100% of your posts are spam so far. Keep it up my friend. I got....well, I just got the one vote...but I got a lot of scowls and at least 10 fingers to point at you sir!

Most people haven't even posted at all yet...

As for what to do now for the newbies, just post and wait for someone to slip up/look scummy. Also please do not lie, there have been a bunch of games recently where bad townies have lied and screwed over town, so don't lie! LAL is a very extreme policy but it makes sense. I'm not suggesting LAL, but if someone lies then I will personally look at them carefully and trust them a good deal less.

We have a lot of new players in this game so i encourage more experienced players to remember that there is a difference between DUMBand SCUM. Too often day 1 lynches end up with some townie getting lynched for trivial reasons when people dont realise the townie is just bad!


Holy shit redFF, thanks for giving advice on how to play. Here is a tip: LAL doesn't work unless you actually maintain the illusion that you'll follow through with it.

But of course, you want to have an out if at some point someone actually fucks up, so you leave a hole in your policies for bad townies, something you're most certainly going to try and convince us of when one of your scumbuddies gets under pressure


On July 22 2011 11:16 redFF wrote:
I've never actually seen or heard of random lynching before, well most day 1 lynches are random but outright saying they are and randomly deciding who is lynched is something i've never seen before, can you link me to a game where a random lynch has been used? It seems pretty dumb to me, because you could hit an active pro-town player just as likely as you could hit a lurking mafia.


Why don't you just come flat out and say the plan is terrible? We all know it's not good, the problem is identifying which is more scummy, the idiots supporting the plan or the white knights fighting against it.

But I think you're just posting random shit to make yourself look good.

#vote redFF
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 22 2011 12:26 GMT
#170
your mother.

But it's still interesting.

Ace proposes terrible plan, Jacinto and VE don't like it, DragonReborn actually likes it. Like.. would scum actually take the chance? The lynch isn't really 25% chance because the mafia can co-ordinate their votes, if they so please, so I think what DragonReborn did was stupid, but probably not scummy.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 22 2011 14:29 GMT
#178
On July 22 2011 23:15 DragonReborn422 wrote:
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On July 22 2011 21:26 Palmar wrote:
your mother.

But it's still interesting.

Ace proposes terrible plan, Jacinto and VE don't like it, DragonReborn actually likes it. Like.. would scum actually take the chance? The lynch isn't really 25% chance because the mafia can co-ordinate their votes, if they so please, so I think what DragonReborn did was stupid, but probably not scummy.


what exactly did i do that is stupid oh god of mafia?



You agreed with ace's plan.

From town perspective it doesn't make any sense, as judging by the sample of games I've played town has more like 50%+ chance of hitting mafia on day one, so if you're town, you should by logic never agree to this plan.

But I don't think you'd out yourself as mafia like that... early, so I'm inclined to believe it's bad judgement.

redFF however responded in the scummiest way possible to Ace's plan, he was indecisive, tried to appear interested in the plan by asking further questions, when just thinking about the problem would lead you to understand why it's bad.

That's why I'm voting for redFF, I think it's pretty obvious that he was avoiding taking a firm stance on it. Don't forget a random lynch is really the worst scenario for town (aside from the fact mafia can stack), and the entire point of the mafia game, is to increase that chance by analysis and logic.

So yeah, read red's posts, realize that they don't make sense, given his experience as a player.

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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 22 2011 15:08 GMT
#181
How the fuck have you played 100 games? have you been playing for years?

Anyway


On July 22 2011 12:03 DragonReborn422 wrote:
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On July 22 2011 11:59 Trotske wrote:
On July 22 2011 11:54 DragonReborn422 wrote:
On July 22 2011 11:49 Trotske wrote:
On July 22 2011 11:43 DragonReborn422 wrote:
You're missing the point of my argument Viscera. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. I found it strange that you protest it making you look scummy. That is all. Perhaps our chances of hitting the mafia is more than 25% perhaps not. Again, I don't care a lick about the lynch. I'm pointing out that you are trying to helpful to the inexperienced whereas you're actually not.


Could you point out the flaws in his reasoning? It seems to me that your posts have been more useless than his by bashing what he has to say and not supporting it at all other than saying "It has worked before" and not giving and evidence.


I haven't bashed anyone. What are you talking about? His reasoning is that the town can do better than a random lynch on day 1 and we should not random lynch. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. Maybe THIS town CAN do better than a random lynch on day1. It could also DO worse than a random lynch on day1. I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHICH.

I am pointing out that he appears helpful by saying that oh yea we can analayze and talk and discuss and we have a better chance of finding a mafia on day1. I think this looks pretty cool to the casual observer as yea...he sounds intelligent and useful...whereas in reality....we really don't know how good this town is. If we have a terrible town maybe we should just keeping randoming!!


How can the town do worse than a RL day1.


I'm not sure if that's a serious question. But I'll bite.

We can be led down the wrong path by inexperienced townspeople or experienced mafia players or the combination of both and easily have wagons on only townspeople. With the mafia members knowing whos who, they have an advantage on day 1 to control the wagons more.



This makes it look like you're perfectly fine with RL. That's a terrible idea and you should know it. And yes, I call out anyone who acts stupidly for acting stupidly.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 22 2011 15:14 GMT
#183
haha live games, sure I have 100 games on epicmafia... herpderpherpderp

Anyway, redFF, tell me your thoughts.

Also, pyo, he needs to be shot in the face, if we default to a policy lynch, Pyo is a great one, as he refuses to commit on day 1 when he's "town". So he just self-votes or something.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 22 2011 15:15 GMT
#185
By that I meant

DR422: tell me your thoughts on redFF.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 22 2011 15:17 GMT
#187
interesting, unwarranted self-importance.

Maybe that Jac guy was on to something.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 22 2011 15:35 GMT
#190
I want to lynch redFF VisEyes...
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