Pick Their Power Mafia 2

On July 25 2011 10:50 Tackster wrote:
I thought heist claimed potter...

Also why are people claiming 2 hours into day 1?

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?

On July 25 2011 10:48 Jackal58 wrote:

Please reconsider.

On July 25 2011 13:39 Foolishness wrote:
Can we please stop the mass role claiming now? I'm looking at the title of the game and it clearly has the word 'Mafia' in it, and nowhere are the words 'claim'.

Has there ever been an instance where a mafia claimed day 1 in a game such as this? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think there has. TL mafia players aren't ballsy enough to do something like that. You guys can yap all you want about these people being mafia, but while you do players like kitaman get a free ride as they make useless posts while pretending to be active.

On July 25 2011 14:35 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Could ON actually be mafia, but just flips green, thus the "disguised as town" from Jackal's PM? Like a GF that keeps working after death. Other than that, I'm drawing a blank, besides that Jackal's scum.

On July 26 2011 01:38 chaos13 wrote:


-_-


WHEN WILL YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND

Role claims are not good.

On July 26 2011 04:19 Varpulis wrote:
Alright I'm caught up. Correct me if I'm wrong, but an accurate summary of the proceedings today is:

Jackal claims HP, ON claims voldy, ON dies, people say that Jackal is lying. YM kills ON, gets killed by tackster, supersoft kills tackster. Kitaman is lurking, Kurumi is trolling/soliciting votes.

I'm uneasy about lynching Jackal based purely on role speculation. I'd rather keep an eye on him and keep him the hell away from the hallows.

I'd be fine with lynching kitaman27 at the moment. Nobody vote for Kurumi, k?

On July 26 2011 05:43 Curu wrote:
Let's look at all the people flying under the radar too under disguise of this shitstorm and not contributing any opinions.

Nisani201
Drazerk
Mr. Wiggles
ketomai
Foolishness - actually here but being useless
Mig
Lanaia

What are your thoughts about recent events?

On July 26 2011 06:29 Foolishness wrote:

Wiggles is probably an SK. Lanaia does not seeM to be posting with a pro-town state of mind.

On July 26 2011 06:58 chaos13 wrote:


Why not?

On July 26 2011 07:06 chaos13 wrote:


Hmm, okay. Who do you think is a good lynch then?

On July 26 2011 13:59 Amber[LighT] wrote:


I think you're scum but that's for tomorrow.

On July 26 2011 23:53 Jackal58 wrote:

Get over yourself. Why don't you get checked by SS. Your only reason for calling me scum is ON flipped town. Show me anything anywhere that I have posted that pushes a scum agienda. Show me. Link it, quote it. Don't care just show me. You have nothing but what you perceive as a free lynch. You push it without any reason at all. You just say scum. That's how scum play. You get checked scummy.

On July 27 2011 00:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
As just a general thought to all the people voting me. What is the general rule of thumb when someone is being voted for and only 1 person ever sticks up for them aside from the defendant? Usually bussed townie.

Don't worry though, when I did and flip town, vigi's will have a list of people to sort out. Stress to all vigi's. EVERYONE who votes for me is on your shooting list. The mafia will use this as their chance to drop one of the few players that actually scares them shitless as such don't waste the opportunity.

As for who should take a hit out of you before the others. Dropbear/redff/jackal all stand out extremely high on lists.

On July 27 2011 02:46 Kurumi wrote:

I am saying things borderline modkill for my role. Think.

On July 27 2011 02:46 syllogism wrote:
It's a bit strange as he is somewhat trying to get lynched, but kind of half-heartedly. Almost as if his role stipulates he has to attempt to get lynched day 1, but if he doesn't, something good happens

On July 27 2011 03:14 Kurumi wrote:

Vote on me , today equals 0 tomorrow equals 1+1

On July 27 2011 03:18 sandroba wrote:
We trade today's lynch for double lynch tomorrow. Apparently he wins aswel.

On July 27 2011 05:26 Kurumi wrote:
Lynch me tomorrow. I am a mole.

On July 27 2011 06:25 GMarshal wrote:

do we really need to call people "fuckers" to get the point across?

On July 27 2011 21:33 Kurumi wrote:
Lanaia if I die Your role is revealed.
Just saying.
And You, my sleeping bodyguard who-left-us-for-day-woke-up-during-the-night
better get lucky and roll 1+3+2 ok?
and give them 1+1 setting please.

On July 28 2011 02:04 redFF wrote:
I started tlpdizing my posts because it was fun and i never new you could just press the tlpd button and it would find player names in your post! I stopped now obviously, the nolvelty has worn off.

On July 28 2011 06:28 Varpulis wrote:
Lanaia who did you target yesterday, and what do they think is going to happen?

Day vig's please claim and let us discuss instead of shooting on a whim.

Damn, I thought the cycle changed at a totally different time. good to know.

Palmar how do you know that Mig shot Jackal?

On July 28 2011 07:31 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I think were at 3 me dropbear and drazerk

On July 28 2011 07:36 sandroba wrote:
@Lanaia Is that correct? Why exactly did you shot redFF?

On July 28 2011 07:41 sandroba wrote:
...
You shot someone on flimsy evidence? Great. Are you compulsive?

On July 29 2011 02:17 sandroba wrote:
Can we concentrate on one person at a time? For now I sugest we keep our targets limited to foolishness and chaos13.

On July 28 2011 23:47 sandroba wrote:
I really think we should ignore the penalties and claim whoever we made the roles for. This creates acountability and will make it easier to identify mafia acording to the actions so far. Is everyone in favor of this?

On July 29 2011 03:04 sandroba wrote:
@lanaia WTF? BC argued with the whole thread, while foolishness only sat on the side lines observing we mislynch. How can you compare both, when they were complete oposites?

On July 29 2011 03:07 sandroba wrote:
Do you even care who we lynch today?

On July 29 2011 03:31 sandroba wrote:
That was directed at you.

On July 29 2011 07:14 Amber[LighT] wrote:


So then who do you think is scum?

On July 28 2011 06:12 Kurumi wrote:
I request a day vig hit on Amber[LighT].
Voting Lanaia

On July 28 2011 18:39 Palmar wrote:


I don't believe you.

On July 30 2011 00:57 Curu wrote:
So Foolishness is apparently a really good player right.

His day 1 contribution consisted of randomly offered lynch targets with no desire to push or analyze any of them. Two of these have flipped Town already:



If he was actively Pro Town and those were his reads, he would be pushing for one of them to be lynched instead of appearing to contribute without actually contributing.



Soft defense of Jackal.

He didn't think BC was a good lynch but did nothing to try to stop the wagon. Taking a stand to save one of the more experienced and renowned players is the natural reaction from a Pro Town player that thinks BC is Town, but he was content to stay on the sidelines and post random stuff. Also his vote conveniently fell on a player that had no other votes rather than Jackal; he was content with the mislynch but didn't want to be a part of it, and also didn't want to vote Jackal in case the wagon managed to derail.

Since then his contribution has consisted of nothing but walls of text defending himself and a FoS/vote onto Nisani. Nisani is the EASIEST target to attack in the world as either Town OR Mafia, and I can't believe Foolishness's contribution is a throwaway analysis/vote like that.

Now sandroba, the information I said I could give: I was the Role Thief. I could steal someone's role, and I stole Foolishness's. His post restriction is complete and utter BS, there was no restriction. What's the motivation behind it? Likely so he could draw out his role creator to snipe him. That or derail the Town into discussing it. Either way it's not real. He doesn't have a history of purposeful trolling like Kurumi does.

He also has not publicly claimed his role was stolen and I have no idea why a Town player would withhold that information. But I can see a reason Mafia would: he's the Godfather.

My theory is that he made his role description the same as the power he originally held WITH the added caveat of a post restriction and a Townie alignment. But now he can't claim his power was stolen, because any role check on him would reveal that he still had his old role and out him as the Godfather.

One final bit of evidence, Mafia clearly tried to snipe active/vet players last night. Wiggles, Mig, and likely Amber (based on Wiggles's role and him being double stacked) were the hits last night. redFF was Lanaia's Vig shot. Why not Foolishness? If what I've heard is correct, he's senior to all of them.

##Unvote
##Vote: Foolishness

On July 29 2011 21:11 chaos13 wrote:
I also still feel that we haven't pulled ourselves together enough. I'm still seeing a lot of random accusations that don't really have much force behind them. Yes, I'm aware that's what my post on Foolishness is like, but there have been enough people explaining why he is scummy that it would not do any good for me to repeat them again.

So here is how all accusations must be made in the future, in order to make things clear and understandable.

Player Name
Verdict:

Explanation and evidence. Quotes must be used here.

Player Name is mafia/town.

##Vote: Player Name


This will allow everyone to clearly see and understand what you are saying. This will provide us with stronger analysis and stronger reference after players flip. Of course this will only apply to the original accusation. If you're supporting someone else's, say so, but there is no need to go through this again.

On July 30 2011 04:33 Kurumi wrote:

1)
To kick role-maker's ass.
2)
To punch role-maker in the face
3)
To date Lanaia
4)
It might not work now. Anyway, I am neither vet or good player. They wouldn't shoot me unless I had good role.

On July 30 2011 06:46 Kurumi wrote:
Lanaia, sorry..
I was just joking (I tend to do that when everything goes wrong)
I hope You're not scared/creeped

On July 30 2011 07:09 Curu wrote:
Yes, he was honest. I know this for a fact because of the state his role was in when I received it.

On July 30 2011 07:10 heist wrote:


Remember that I might have been the target and it transferred onto Foolishness. Or he could be lying. Or someone not-scum did actually target him.

On July 30 2011 07:12 bumatlarge wrote:
Regardless of what you planned, there is very little doubt in my mind that you are town. Good work.

On July 31 2011 06:06 Palmar wrote:
Deconduo fucked up.

Chaos13 tried to kill Sandroba.

On July 31 2011 06:41 sandroba wrote:
Lanaia, did you get role blocked? Who did you target with your night action?

On July 31 2011 06:40 Palmar wrote:
didn't dropbear say he roleblocked chaos13?

On July 31 2011 06:48 Palmar wrote:
read my ability, I see any action they perform

initially decon just said chaos13 visited sandroba, but I sent him a pm, and he said I also saw chaos tried to kill sandroba

On July 31 2011 06:52 sandroba wrote:
@Lanaia Can I get some more clarification in regards to your role? You choose to perform an action on a player during the day, but actually perform it during the night? If so to which player have you chosen to perform any sort of action?

On July 31 2011 07:23 Lanaia wrote:


I only chose a person d1. This person was redff1.

I forgot to choose yesterday.

I have no yet chosen today.

I cannot use the same ability two days in a row, though.

Do you need anything more than this? Varpulis confirmed that this is how my role works the first time I mentioned it.

On July 31 2011 07:35 sandroba wrote:
Lanaia, there are 3 options here:
1) You are sk or mafia (leaning sk since mafia wouldn't shoot drazerk imo) and shot drazerk at night and thus got roleblocked.

2) Mafia has a roleblocker. In that case palmar is mafia since he didn't get roleblocked and you did instead.

3) Some random townie roleblocked you, which I find unlikely since I see no reason a townie would RB you. If that's the case such townie should claim.

On July 31 2011 08:09 sandroba wrote:
Could you claim pls lanaia?

On July 31 2011 08:18 Varpulis wrote:
@lanaia

either predict my or sandroba's imminent doom, or proclaim that the gods watch kita/chaos (whoever we don't lynch)

this will make sense when/if she claims.

On July 31 2011 08:20 sandroba wrote:
@Lanaia Alright. If you have some sort of check use it on kita/palmar. Since you have no night actions as you claim either palmar is scum or you are SK. If you are town I would sugest you check palmar.

On July 31 2011 08:28 sandroba wrote:
Got this PM right now. What does it mean lanaia?
The Crackpot Fortune Teller has predicted your imminent doom. You will die the night after next.

On July 31 2011 12:42 sandroba wrote:
Hmm, and there's also Palmar's slip about the role thief role.

On July 31 2011 13:15 Curu wrote:
So here's how I see it:

sandroba is the most Pro Town player thus far. I'm not banking on him lying.

chaos's action against sandroba must have gone through for them to be in the circle. That means it was not a kill, unless sandroba is the SK and/or can somehow survive night hits.

Palmar and DropBear must be lying or this game has the weirdest mechanics I've ever seen.

The only thing that gets me is I'm almost certain Foolishness was RBed night 1 and DropBear claimed that one as well.

On July 31 2011 13:26 Curu wrote:
The only part that doesn't make sense to me is Foolishness's claimed roleblock. But reading over my role PM again, Foolishness may have thought he gets new powers just for waiting rather than actively using the powers and thus didn't use anything since there's the insanity caveat and the first two powers weren't all that helpful for Mafia.

DropBear, your full role PM please. There is a daykill ability still out there (supersoft's death) but no one claiming a power related to it, someone is BSing.

And for the cult thing, once again unless sandroba lied about his ability (I don't believe he did) then he was not the one. supersoft never did any action to sandroba either.

On August 02 2011 01:27 sandroba wrote:
That bread crumb kind of convinced me. When I think I got the game solved I start getting paranoid =P

On August 02 2011 06:00 Eiii wrote:
chaos13
DropBear
Drazerk
Kurumi
Curu
Lanaia <-----
heist
Palmar
sandroba
kitaman27

On August 02 2011 08:09 sandroba wrote:
That means shit. Chaos vote was on foolishness and they were both mafia. But anyway shoot palmar first =)

On August 02 2011 08:52 bumatlarge wrote:
He's probably SK, or ninja at this rate, if what he says is true. But then my bullet will nail him only if he isn't SK, and in that case he's assured and we can lynch him. This is probably good for mafia to hear, as it prolongs their defeat, but now it is possible that they only have 1 member left.

On August 02 2011 12:54 Lanaia wrote:
But yeah, if he hasn't actioned yet, he should block me.

On August 03 2011 06:05 Curu wrote:
wtf, I thought Lanaia had prot on sandroba.

##Vote Palmar

On August 03 2011 06:38 heist wrote:
Dropbear did you RB bum?

Only two people can roleblock: dropbear and bum. Kita claims rb. Bum claims rb.

On August 03 2011 06:56 heist wrote:
How do propose you got roleblocked then? Palmar, dropbear, and kita are lying?

On August 03 2011 06:57 Kurumi wrote:
BUMATLARGE IS SCUM AND HAS ROLE WITH KP, THERE'S YOUR STACK
OH GIVE ME A BREAK

On August 03 2011 07:09 Palmar wrote:
Lanaia did not visit sandroba.

SHE'S A LIAR!

On August 03 2011 07:04 bumatlarge wrote:


You should have claimed RB and blamed your prot failure on me, and kept me around a bit til you could get a lynch on me. If your mafia that is

On August 03 2011 07:31 Kurumi wrote:

bumatlarge himself claimed he is scum, why not lynch him?

On August 03 2011 07:57 bumatlarge wrote:
Lanaia just used her protection of the angels on me.

On August 03 2011 08:02 Palmar wrote:


NO

The hero lanaia brought us closer to victory!

Now we must kill EVIL KITAMAN27!!!!

On August 05 2011 09:15 Curu wrote:
I third Kurumi's request for a sped-up cycle.

Also Lanaia your gut may be right this time!

On August 07 2011 04:42 Curu wrote:
I have read the thread Drazerk. I've seen where you did nothing to stop the BC mislynch even though you claim to have known he was lying, where you came in with some bullshit cred buying move AFTER Jackal was already dead but didn't try to influence the actual lynch in any way. How you posted nothing at all in the game until it came down to trying to keep you alive till the end of the game.

Look, one of Drazerk, bum, and DropBear is the last Mafia. Drazerk is UNACTIONABLE, which means he HAS to be lynched. Me and Lanaia can kill bum and DropBear at night.

Kurumi just tell me what you'll do if bum flips Town.