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Gah I'm going to read the whole thread before I reply next time.
I still like the BC lynch very very much. I don't like the kita lynch.
On July 26 2011 13:57 Amber[LighT] wrote:
YET Jackal [Harry Fucking Potter] gets to go without posting since the idea of having Dropbear claim. Once that happens Jackals posting completely stops. Weird huh?
This is actually very interesting. Jackal has pretty much disappeared.
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Foolishness what makes you so sure that Wiggles is an SK?
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In fact, what makes Lanaia and redFF good lynches?
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...... That isn't going to convince me to get behind you.
You didn't answer my question about Wiggles. Why are you so sure he is SK?
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On July 26 2011 21:20 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 21:00 DropBear wrote:
...... That isn't going to convince me to get behind you.
You didn't answer my question about Wiggles. Why are you so sure he is SK? Why not? I randomly picked a person who's relatively inactive and someone who's half trolling and has barely posted anything longer than 3 lines. That's just like you right? You randomly picked between flavor text lynch, policy lynch, and anger lynch right? I mean your reasoning for your vote made a nice bloodstain on my wall. Perhaps you can refresh my memory on why BC needs to die? I'm going to vote for the troll now, redFF. Should be obvious when you click the filter button what I mean.
I have said before that jackal, the flavour text lynch is a bad idea. It is interesting that he is disappeared but it isn't enough of a reason to lynch him.
I don't know who you mean by the policy lynch and the anger lynch but I'm assuming BC is one of them.
I would like to kill BC for a few reasons.
- Firstly for trying to stop supersoft using a DT check. There is no reason to do this.
- Second, because he is shitting up the thread, arguing wildly about something that isn't really that important. When he was my scumcoach for XVIII he advocated this as an underused and highly effective scum strategy.
- Third, because he is strongly suggesting that supersoft could be Mafia which I now know is impossible. We used this argument of "he killed his scumbuddy to buy town cred" to get Palmar lynched over bumatlarge in PTP1. And it's a ridiculous argument.
If supersoft is also Mafia, then he had no need to kill Tackster. I was saying that supersoft killed him, he could have just gone "yeah sorry guys I suck and I used my ability and now Mafia knows who I am  "
- Fourth because of his bizarre chainsaw defence of you early on which immediately set off alarm bells for me.
Additionally, if you want me to vote with you at any point in this game, why not show me some reasoning rather than casting insults?
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EBWOP, I was saying supersoft killed youngminii
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On July 26 2011 22:10 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 21:41 DropBear wrote:On July 26 2011 21:20 Foolishness wrote:On July 26 2011 21:00 DropBear wrote:
...... That isn't going to convince me to get behind you.
You didn't answer my question about Wiggles. Why are you so sure he is SK? Why not? I randomly picked a person who's relatively inactive and someone who's half trolling and has barely posted anything longer than 3 lines. That's just like you right? You randomly picked between flavor text lynch, policy lynch, and anger lynch right? I mean your reasoning for your vote made a nice bloodstain on my wall. Perhaps you can refresh my memory on why BC needs to die? I'm going to vote for the troll now, redFF. Should be obvious when you click the filter button what I mean. I have said before that jackal, the flavour text lynch is a bad idea. It is interesting that he is disappeared but it isn't enough of a reason to lynch him. I don't know who you mean by the policy lynch and the anger lynch but I'm assuming BC is one of them. I would like to kill BC for a few reasons. - Firstly for trying to stop supersoft using a DT check. There is no reason to do this. - Second, because he is shitting up the thread, arguing wildly about something that isn't really that important. When he was my scumcoach for XVIII he advocated this as an underused and highly effective scum strategy. - Third, because he is strongly suggesting that supersoft could be Mafia which I now know is impossible. We used this argument of "he killed his scumbuddy to buy town cred" to get Palmar lynched over bumatlarge in PTP1. And it's a ridiculous argument. If supersoft is also Mafia, then he had no need to kill Tackster. I was saying that supersoft killed him, he could have just gone "yeah sorry guys I suck and I used my ability and now Mafia knows who I am " - Fourth because of his bizarre chainsaw defence of you early on which immediately set off alarm bells for me. Additionally, if you want me to vote with you at any point in this game, why not show me some reasoning rather than casting insults? 1) When the result of the check shows up red and we lynch the person and they flip  Green what are you going to do? Kill supersoft? 1a) He flips green. Great, we wasted 2 days minimum and did no scumhunting 1b) He flips red. This is fine since 1 for 1 trade. When his results turn up green, are you going to kill that person to confirm? No cause that's just silly. So are you going to leave said person alone the rest of the game? If this was a normal game that'd be dandy but this is PTP. There could be framers, roleblockers, heck the mafia may have already converted supersoft to their team by now. I am for the check but his reasons for not wanting to use it aren't an issue. Let me be clear: BC is worried about the town misusing the information (as am I, that's why I want a check on a random person instead), which is an all too common theme in mafia. His solution to the problem of "the town is going to misuse this information" is preventing the town from getting the information in the first place. Given the track record of the town so far I don't blame him. One mafia is already dead through stupidity why take the chance with a DT check in a game where people have bizarre roles when we can just analyze and let DT's do work later in the game. And speaking of analyze, redFF is acting just like in BC's game where he flipped red. Make a lot of one liner troll posts, then a 2 paragraph post to try to blend in and/or justify his post, rinse and repeat. That's what he's doing this game too. BC can be held accountable in the near future if he disappears. If he survives this lynch then goes afk we auto lynch him easy. He knows that so no matter what his role is he'll be around. (On the same note, if Jackal continues being afk we should lynch him tomorrow as well.) 2) It's very important whether the check gets used and who it gets used on. I'm banking that one of the people arguing with BC is mafia for the exact reasons you stated. 3) fine, I wouldn't rule it out as impossible since this is PTP mafia, but Occam's Razor says he's town and that's good enough for me. 4) link or it didn't happen. Wait I know this didn't happen so don't bother.
1. I am not going to kill supersoft. I am going to fight anyone who tries to get him killed. This whole paragraph you wrote there was kind of pointless.
If a supersoft check turns up green, why would you shoot them to confirm? I trust supersoft. I would leave them alone for the time being at least and revisit them later in the game.
Reasons for not wanting a check are a huge issue. Reasons for doing anything are important.
Why deny the information? Not only this, one Mafia is already dead through stupidity? The town's track record is really bad so early in the game? This almost sounds as though you are disappointed that Tackster is dead.
2. To echo Mig, is it important enough to have a 10 page argument about? He isn't actually following his big argument that we should be scumhunting. You admit that the mass argument about it is indeed a good Mafia strategy, yet refuse to entertain the possibility that BC is the Mafia among them. It must be one of the others and not him, right?
3. I'm glad we are in agreement on supersoft being town. BC isn't a noob, if you and I can make this connection he should be able to very easily do so as well. Yet he perpetuates the argument that it is a possibility, when it isn't.
4. This is what I'm talking about. It's a strange response to a question that wasn't in any way accusatory. Here's the link.
On July 25 2011 14:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 14:13 DropBear wrote:
At the risk of being mauled by youngminii, is there a reason why Foolishness is using TLPD in all his posts so far? Any reason why you chose to rhyme in your last post? Prob a random accidental click of tlpd
Your hostility regarding this seemingly minor issue is a little strange Master Foolishness. As was his hostility in the original post. I do wonder about you now.
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Gah
every wednsday night i always end up at fucken bar1
its such a hole and i keep goin back
its so narby and close though can run home
fuxken brother is pusst always goes home early
2 of these millllarr dickheads are dead now
dt chek will be good in future yes?
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drugs are bad mkay
I say we look at kitaman. He always ruins my plan s, dam kitaman! Hes def the bad guy
Im not saying wat my penalty is somene asked. its not that bad tho whoever wrote it is nice
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wat? mini man and cobblerface were millaaaaaaars and they is dead
so tim roth is probs right now with his chekcs?
i have to go do my uni calndar its due in the morning.
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k so i went out again
will try analuse probs wont be good
everyone giveing lanaia shit i think shes a good guy
vote before tim roth chekc
hard to make colour
On July 27 2011 04:46 deconduo wrote:
Vote Count:
BloodyC0bbler - 8
DropBear
redFF
Nisani201
Mig
supersoft
Jackal58
kitaman27
Palmar
Jackal58 - 8
BloodyC0bbler
Amber[LighT]
heist
Mr. Wiggles
Drazerk
Curu
syllogism
Lanaia
Kurumi - 2
chaos13
sandroba
Lanaia - 1
Kurumi
redFF - 1
Foolishness
was close vote jackl cobblerface
i say at lesat one more bad guy in coblerface list
nisani206?
evil kitaman?
eidur gudjonsen?
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look at these 3 leave da fool for later
no way he last ti late game if town, mafia will kick him with their fist til hes dead
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SINANI206
On July 26 2011 10:13 Nisani201 wrote:BC is suspicious, but not just for trying to avoid an alignment check. This post I found particularly scummy: Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 13:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
What, the fuck is this shit? Multiple day 1 claims? people already lying. Day vig already shooting? The fuck is this shit. Purely for knowing better, and combination of a townie role designed around killing another player Jackal is now up for lynch.
Before anyone one goes "lets slow down here" He outright lied about his role, and we know based on a role flip that ON had a statement saying he was out to kill harry potter. As such the two should be opposite alignment, or at the very least, HP third party. As such he dies. We do not keep liars around, we do not keep people around who are on a quest to find bullshit items.
Also whoever made my role, go die in a fire.
##vote jackal58
The above post was extremely uninformed and looked like it was trying to start a bandwagon. That, in addition to the reasons I stated earlier in this post, I think that BC is the best lynch. ##Vote: Bloodyc0bbler
this post is suss now
what other reasons derp. uninformed? what you talking bout boyyyy
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=245008¤tpage=81#1616 big omgus when sandy wasnt even talking to him. conscionce must be hurtin
no post bout jackal at all at any point. never even mention his name.
so much one liners quoting others not saying nothing
I don't like this guy
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i am tired will do kitaman tmoro
hes probably evil though he always ruins my plans
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my penalty is not use power on same guy twice in a row
im actaully drunk lol
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On July 29 2011 21:14 chaos13 wrote:
Sorry about all the posts, but I keep thinking of things that I didn't say in the last one.
I'm guessing there is probably 5 scum. I would say the remaining scum team is Palmar, Nisani, and Foolishness. One of the more active vocal players is probably third party. Sandroba or DropBear maybe. DB might even be faking his penalty here, it could be something completely different and he's just doing that to distract from the content in his posts.
My posts the last few days were not posting restrictions. It's the last week before I go back to uni so I've got to make it count 
I don't think Foolishness is a good lynch today. I am a little concerned by him but I don't think he's a good lynch.
- The Foolishness is godfather theory isn't a good one. Deconduo has said that it was assigned randomly. Sure it's possible but nowhere near as likely as Curu has made out.
- Going on the Mafia quiz and the XXXVII analysis, he tends to be less active in the first few days and then ramps it up later on.
- If we just completely ignore him for now it benefits us in a few ways. If he's town, Mafia will take him out sooner rather than later. He's too much of a risk. The longer he lives, the more he can help us if he's town, if he's Mafia it will become increasingly obvious if he doesn't lift his game.
I would prefer that we lynch today based on the voting pattern from Day 1.
I may have been drunk when I wrote this but the point still stands. There is almost guaranteed that the vote list for BC just before supersoft's check has more than just the one Mafia on it.
I'd like to see the lynch between Nisani and kitaman. Vote staying on Nisani for now.
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KITAMAN27
First 10 or so posts are vague questions.
This confused me.
The explanation confused me too. It just seemed unnecessary. His point about giving away the stick so quickly was a good one though.
This is a good defence. Not only that but he willingly submitted to supersoft's check.
Posts a couple of times saying he'll give his opinions later then delivers with this. All of these made sense.
The following is his reasoning for voting BC:
On July 27 2011 01:37 kitaman27 wrote:
Voting for BC because
1) I enjoy watching him die
2) He refuses to submit to an alignment check
Others should be forced to quote SS. There are a surprisingly few people who are willing to submit to it.
His vote made it 9-6 in BC's favour so it wasn't lynch changing. He doesn't however, like nisani, mention Jackal at all, which I think is slightly suss. Someone who was debated so much wasn't even mentioned.
Since here he's been quiet but it was his birthday so I'm willing to cut him some slack.
CONCLUSION
Unsure.
I feel better about him than Nisani and worse about him than Palmar.
Now that I've done the three of them, I would like to see Nisani dead first, failing that kita, failing that Palmar.
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Bum I did claim supersoft's role, however decon changed it. Read supersoft's flip again. What I sent in was it got revealed to everyone, decon changed it to being revealed to the Mafia. If you are telling the truth about you not receiving a PM then you are not Mafia. Are you telling the truth though
And again, the drunk posting was me being drunk and isn't a penalty. I've already claimed my penalty.
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My name is coming up, understandably.
- I roleblocked Foolishness Night 1.
- Not only this, my role has a kicker. heist was not the only one who had Foolishness by the balls.
- I was the first one to call out his bizarre TLPDising. Read my posts.
- My reasoning for wanting to keep him around was partly because I had him by the balls (and so did heist) but because the longer he lasted the more obvious it would be if he was mafia and the more he could help if he was town
- My actions directly contributed to Tackster's death Day 1. If I had kept my mouth shut about supersoft's role supersoft may not have killed him.
- I attacked BC because he used the same argument about supersoft that the PTP1 Mafia team, which I was part of, used to kill Palmar.
My voting has been bad but my actions hopefully convince everyone that I am indeed town.
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