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Original Message From chaos13: If it was anyone who visited, that would be more of a problem. However, you place it between two specific players and it is only if one of those two visits each other that it is activated. As such, I have been recommending that one of the two targets be a strong suspect. On top of this, I think it is unlikely we have conventional blue roles. I think most of them will be like mine, involving only the ability to make or sell stuff. Show nested quote +Original Message From Palmar: And our cops and docs? Original Message From chaos13: Almost. You'll see I mentioned early on that I would not sell them to anyone on my suspect list. No reason to give them to someone who is mafia. That said, they'll do a hell of a lot more good to town than mafia, so I'm not overly worried if a mafia does end up with one. Based on simple probability a mafia will already have contacted me inquiring about them, as there have been a few. Original Message From Palmar: And you're perfectly fine with selling those to whomever asks? Original Message From chaos13: I can make them each for 350,000, so I'm asking 355,000 to cover that and the cost of the contract. At night you place it between any two players (including yourself if you wish). If one tries to visit the other, instead they get blown up. Pop one between yourself and a scum/SK and it's a dandy little tool. You interested Original Message From Palmar:
So
You say you're selling, I'm in the market for buying.
What exactly does your equipment do, and what's the asking price?
And this one, slightly later, I think I pointed a finger his way in the thread.
Original Message From chaos13: -.- I try to be helpful... I don't see why you would turn this down either, cause you can only benefit from it. Oh well Show nested quote +Original Message From Palmar: Why does it bother you so much I think you're scum? I'm clearly not pushing for a lynch on you today, I'm going after ON. So just sit back and chill, you're not helping your cause. Original Message From chaos13:
Alright, what do you need me to do to convince you I'm town?
I think you're town, so here's the deal. Since it's probably because of our earlier PM's that you think I'm scum, I will make a contract with you. This guarantees that I will truthfully inform you of every contract I have made and will make in the future with other players, within 24 hours of making it. You will receive the full details of each contract. I also promise to discuss any contracts I plan on making in the future. Hell, I'll even cover the cost of making this contract with you. If this isn't enough to satisfy you, I'll make a trust fund with you, and in the event that either of us dies and flips mafia/SK, the other gets everything in it. This trust fund will include all of our money. Items will not be included, but it will contain an up-to-date list of what we each have in our inventory.
How does that sound to you?
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interesting 
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btw as far as I'm concerned, syllo and sandroba are confirmed town... or at least not scum.
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that's the same thing that I got in those pms syllo, I asked him if he was just cool with selling them to anyone.
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By the way, half the remaining players have roleclaimed to me.
I sent out pms to the people I actually think are town and haven't roleclaimed to me yet. If you scummy types want to, you can try to think of a believable roleclaim now.
Except Chaos13, I don't give a shit what your role is, you're dying.
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is that burning pants I smell?
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Unless Syllogism is playing super-mad-awesome-I-see-into-the-future-good scum game, Chaos13 basically lied.
Like there is no way about it, Chaos cannot both have created a testament and a contract, that contradicts something syllogism told me this morning, long before syllo or I had any idea what transactions Chaos13 would claim.
So please Chaos, explain why you're lying?
And if he's in fact telling the truth, we nail Syllo.
But yes, you guys have given statements that cannot both be true, and I think Syllo is telling the truth.
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On July 15 2011 03:02 chaos13 wrote:
Why would I be unable to make both a testament and contract?
Stop rolefishing, scum.
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Already done.
Actually most of town knows.
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ON
Roleclaim to me please.
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how much money do you have Chaos?
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Anyway, I need to leave for a few hours to play golf.
Will be around for 20 more minutes or so.
I already have roleclaims from Kurumi, Syllogism, Sandroba, Radfield, Jackal58 and Chaos13 has claimed publicly in the thread. That means Heist, ON, Chezinu, GM need to claim.
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how much did you sell your landmine for?
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Cause by my calculations, and judging by the PM you sent me, you sold your landmine for 355,000 kronos, and of course you had to pay 10.000 to LSB bank.
That makes 1,345,000 kronos.
But why aren't there additional 20,000 kronos missing from paying for your testament?
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Few things I want to touch on.
LSB: If anyone made a testament today, would he already have been charged the money, or does it get charged at daybreak?
If Chaos isn't lying about the testament, then that slightly reduces the suspicion on him.
I have the roles of everyone in the game except for heist. Although I'm inclined to disbelieve Chez being a bank. Some of the others may be lying but we can dissect that tomorrow.
I still think Chaos13 is our best lynch tomorrow, closely followed by ON or Radfield. Chezinu is completely unreadable, but he is exclusively trolling this game so he is probably a good vigi target, as we're never going to get a read on him. Barring that, a DT check would be good.
If everything goes according to plan I will reveal almost every role tomorrow, I think there's almost nothing important in the claims that I have gotten enough to warrant holding it back. Then we just continue on day 2 with mass claims.
I will also reveal the order I got the claims in, I'm inclined to believe the later I got the claims, the more likely they were fabricated by scum, although this isn't really a strong tell.
But most importantly, we can match claims to behavior and see who doesn't fit.
Some claims need to be outed tonight in PMs, I have sent everyone all the information they need to continue playing this game.
Good luck town.
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oh wait, GM hasn't roleclaimed either.
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He can easily lie about that part. It's chez
Are you available for an IRC conversation Chaos13? Contrary to what you might think, I really, really want to hear what you have to say.
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interesting, we should have time to discuss that tomorrow.
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This did not go according to plan.
I don't know whom I should trust.
Chaos13 left me all his belongings, basically his money.
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I need information.
If anyone targeted one of the following last night, I have to know.
OriginalName
GMarshal
Radfield
You _have_ to tell me if you visited or targeted one of those people.
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