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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 09 2011 07:49 GMT
#1761
Also if we nuke YM we vote on who we think is most scummy to launch these nukes. None of this player list bullshit. I advocated hard for a randomized list if we used player list and sandroba advocated just as hard against it. If he's scum this leads me to believe that the players near the top of the list are not scum and he wants Town to be wasting their nukes.

It might take more than one nuke to kill YM. I propose we launch three max (even that's pushing it a bit. Maybe just two). If he still doesn't die we lynch one of him or sandroba and hope there's a Vig to take care of the other at night.
wat
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 09 2011 07:58 GMT
#1762
@curu I nuked YM already. I would not launch another nuke at him because if he had more lives he wouldn't have used his anti nuke on mataza's missile.
Why do you think I'm scum again? Really take your time to think about what I've done and how I'm pushing mafia objectives. If you make an analysis proving I'm scum I swear I'll vote for mylsef.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 09 2011 08:07 GMT
#1763
I made analysis on you already. It's on day 1. You completely ignored it and told me to stop focusing on you and find scum. Your actions are blatantly contradictory (usually a display of making constructive posts to appear pro Town but not committing to them once an advantageous situation comes up). You pushed hard for your policy saying anyone who might try to circumvent it is scum. You nailed Palmar with that analysis. So now I'm holding you to it: you went against your policy so you are probably scum.

The only thing I couldn't understand was why you and YM were acting so action magnet-y. But neither of you drew much heat on day one so I'm convinced Mafia had at least some of their members try to hide in plain sight. Judging by how you two avoided significant lynch attention I'd say it almost worked except for chaos's flip.
wat
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 08:33 GMT
#1764
I think chaos13 didn't want to counterclaim until today so he could get his extra life at least. Also this is the second game in a row I assumed someone isn't scum because he wouldn't play this bad haha
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 08:41 GMT
#1765
Also I hope that nuke doesn't quietly get redirected like the previous one
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 09 2011 08:51 GMT
#1766
A few last thoughts before I go to bed.

DO. NOT. RANDOM. NUKE. Wait for the flips. PLEASE. The only nukes we should be firing right now are at YM or sandroba.

YM and sandroba on the offchance that you are Town then give us your thoughts and analysis. In my eyes you are both dead men right now but if you are Town you will want to contribute something before you go. I am not going to give two shits about your analysis if you flip scum because I don't want to deal with WIFOM but I want these thoughts from both of you:

If both of you flip green, who do you suspect and why?
If you flip green and the other guy flips red, who do you suspect and why?
I don't care about your analysis if you both flip red. But you can provide that too for shits and giggles if you want.
I also don't care about your analysis if you flip red. Shits and giggles welcome.

Also if you two are not scum then do not fire your missiles. I see you've already fired one sandroba (although without the ##, so who knows if it counts) but at least it's at the other suspected guy.

As for the mass nameclaim thing, I'm going to come out and say that my power changes based on faction members dying. I'm sure scum has some similar mechanic. I tried to be as vague as possible in saying that there are probably anti nameclaim mechanisms but I'm going to come out and say it straight up now. I suspect there are some win conditions attached to the states of factions as well. Mataza got extra powers if a certain name died. I do not like the idea of name claiming but if you all agree to it then so be it.




wat
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 08:52 GMT
#1767
I'm inclined to agree with Jeejee being mafia after seeing his town play in CCM
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 09 2011 08:57 GMT
#1768
On July 09 2011 17:52 syllogism wrote:
I'm inclined to agree with Jeejee being mafia after seeing his town play in CCM


I've followed that game pretty closely (and boosted my e-peen with it).

JeeJee was Town for one day (he subbed in). And it was at lylo where you are forced into giving your utmost full analysis and thoughts. You don't care if you draw heat to yourself. You MUST compel your fellow players because knowing your own role is the single biggest advantage you have. No matter what playstyle you choose you have to be extremely vocal and extremely convicted at lylo.

I'm not saying take JeeJee off your radar. But let's see these flips and what YM/sandroba think.
wat
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 08:59 GMT
#1769
Curu: we definitely can not mass claim today because a certain frenchie has to stay alive until tomorrow. I also agree with the win conditions thing, obviously especially for cult and probably for cccp. Mafia having only one 1 KP does make mass claiming quite an attractive idea.

Also OriginalName wasn't axis campaign supposed to be announced too?

PaqMan why did you claim basically VT when there was little to no pressure on you? Do you also do this in standard games?
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
July 09 2011 09:17 GMT
#1770
On July 09 2011 17:59 syllogism wrote:
Curu: we definitely can not mass claim today because a certain frenchie has to stay alive until tomorrow. I also agree with the win conditions thing, obviously especially for cult and probably for cccp. Mafia having only one 1 KP does make mass claiming quite an attractive idea.

Also OriginalName wasn't axis campaign supposed to be announced too?

PaqMan why did you claim basically VT when there was little to no pressure on you? Do you also do this in standard games?


I didn't claim VT? I said I have no special abilities, which I'm disappointed about.

I'm going to bed now, it's way too late here. I'll check back sometime in the afternoon.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
July 09 2011 09:18 GMT
#1771
@syllo are you talking about my post when I voted for the Dunkirk operation? Lol. I wasn't talking about myself >.>
t(ツ)t
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 09:26 GMT
#1772
Oh right, I misread a bit, I thought you didn't even have a gimmick name and you were just some generic polish person
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 09:45 GMT
#1773
Also we shouldn't believe there are zombies just because a voice in the sky told us so. That could easily be a scum ability. If there is at least one other "town aligned" zombie, perhaps he should claim (don't reveal anything besides that you are a zombie)? That either gives some credibility to sandroba's claim, or give us another scum prospect later on if we get a reason to disbelieve that claim
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 09 2011 09:50 GMT
#1774
What the hell?

Why the hell would you nuke if he's claiming he's British it obviously means he is a zombie and is nuke immune forcing you to raise to work radiation level in order to "Prove" his innocence.

Lynch the guy. Don't nuke as we have probably just doomed us all now.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 09 2011 10:03 GMT
#1775
Lol we're even discussing lynching/nuking the guy who's claim turned to be false? I am voting YM now.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 09 2011 10:04 GMT
#1776
I know guys(You and me) You're against nuking but if we can kill him and get a lynch, that's great. If we can't, then that's bad. We need to get rid of him anyway. About lurkers.. Prod them to talk more, lurkers look all same sometimes (all blue, all green, all red etc)
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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 10:05 GMT
#1777
How much should we read into flavor? I was so convinced YM couldn't be scum, that I dismissed this earlier, but could it be YM had special nukes that couldn't be shot down?

"Mataza saw all the nukes heading out and thought, gee, what a nice way to go. So he ran out into the middle of the field to welcome the new missile. Unfortunately for him, the missile armed a bit later than timed.""

That would make GM's claim about his anti-nuke failing due to "shoddy chinese technology" a lie
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 09 2011 10:09 GMT
#1778
Well I suppose we will likely know after YM's flip
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 09 2011 10:15 GMT
#1779
Ok YM you claim you are town.
If you are town and we are going to lynch you the Mafia would blend in *again* and we would start day3 as we started day1 and day2, with no actions to work with. The mafia would just carry on with lurking and disrupting and they would not stand out. YM if you let it come to a lynch against you it is your own fault, and you would screw the town over and put us in a really bad position. Also you claimed you have 2 lives, which makes the one nuke being fired at you do nothing, but there is absolutely no way that you could let this come to a lynch. It is sad, no matter what your role is you screwed up and are going to die. If you are town however you could do us a last favor and not waste another lynch.
Thats why I ask you, if you are town, to nuke yourself.
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Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
July 09 2011 10:38 GMT
#1780
On July 09 2011 19:15 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
Ok YM you claim you are town.
If you are town and we are going to lynch you the Mafia would blend in *again* and we would start day3 as we started day1 and day2, with no actions to work with. The mafia would just carry on with lurking and disrupting and they would not stand out. YM if you let it come to a lynch against you it is your own fault, and you would screw the town over and put us in a really bad position. Also you claimed you have 2 lives, which makes the one nuke being fired at you do nothing, but there is absolutely no way that you could let this come to a lynch. It is sad, no matter what your role is you screwed up and are going to die. If you are town however you could do us a last favor and not waste another lynch.
Thats why I ask you, if you are town, to nuke yourself.

That sounds very conspiratorial to me, as that basically forces a nuke out to increase rads. Why can't you just ask him to be blatantly honest in his player readings, get him lynched, and see where he flips? I'd rather have some sort of analysis whether BSed or not than not squeeze him for information. Same thing with Sandroba, since they're both up by the bloody wall, I want to hear his analysis as well so we can all start poking holes and shit on it.
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