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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On July 13 2011 00:22 deconduo wrote: We had a framer who could choose to frame dead bodies if he wanted. Cool, no idea why you decided it was a good idea to include win con though. Did your own win con look like the one in OP? Previous night posts didn't mention win cons or role descriptions even | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On July 13 2011 00:24 syllogism wrote: Cool, no idea why you decided it was a good idea to include win con though. Did your own win con look like the one in OP? Previous night posts didn't mention win cons or role descriptions even Yeah, they made a mistake. If they hadn't included the role description it was an easy lynch of YM. Not that it mattered anyway lol. | ||
Mig
United States4714 Posts
Btw the mistake caller mentioned. I am pretty sure day 1 TAA should have been lynched instead of sandroba. TAA reached 3 votes first. That would have been pretty sick for town as well. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On July 13 2011 00:27 Mig wrote: Opz nuking syllo and sandroba being lynched were I think the biggest turning points which ruined town. They were the only 2 players who were actually actively trying to analyze and win for town. Although if sandroba had held off on nuking YM instantly we could have saved him because the death framer was figured out. Btw the mistake caller mentioned. I am pretty sure day 1 TAA should have been lynched instead of sandroba. TAA reached 3 votes first. That would have been pretty sick for town as well. Sandroba reached 3 votes first because third vote on TAA was Palmar's vote at the end of the day. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/utJSuwyyNhcj | ||
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
On July 13 2011 00:28 Kurumi wrote: Sandroba reached 3 votes first because third vote on TAA was Palmar's vote at the end of the day. Oh ok nm about what I said then haha. What was caller's mistake then? | ||
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
that doesn't sound very fair | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
So we had four factions in the Mafia then. Normal Mafia, dec who won by killing TAA and winning, and TAA who won with Conspirator. I'm sure Wiggles had an alternate win condition too but he died before I could figure out what it was. My role was a Framer. I could influence the night post and change flips for one night. This was my creation: Hail to you Earthlings from deep outer space, We’ve come here now to watch this place. Interested we are to see your fate, So for now no action, we’ll sit and wait. But before we depart, here’s what we saw, An intricate development that’ll drop the jaw. Nuke all you want until the whole world glows, And you’ll miss those zombies sitting under your nose. They have no heartbeat, the walking dead, They won’t be satisfied till they’re thoroughly fed. You squabble amongst yourselves as we laugh with mirth, Because human beings are not the only faction on Earth. This was to just throw as much confusion into Town as possible. Caller suggested the zombies to me and lol there were zombies. And this was my second night creation: Averted a coming crisis with that timely rotting death, Never trust those who never draw breath. One world leader dies and now only two remain, Locked together in death, one’s efforts will be in vain. Tides are shifting and alignments draw out, Of one thing in particular we have little doubt. Try as you may, dispel your utterly foolish notion, For it is most definitely impossible to lynch an entire ocean. Studying each one, we’ve had some great joy, Rubbish speak and trolls and an odd little boy. We’ve watched your people, some certainly bore, They’ve even taught us the meaning of “snore.” We applaud you Earthlings, it has been most fun, Missiles and killing, destruction a-ton. One more small tidbit we’d like to pose, The threshold of your planet, one of you knows. This was created before all the shit went down. Basically to confirm Kitaman as the Ocean (he wasn't), to get Navillus lynched/nuked for his misspelling, and to enforce my own fakeclaim. I breadcrumbed my fakeclaim (J. Brobert Oppenheimer, father of the atomic bomb) with my very first post: Considering that radiation levels increase on any sort of activity (hitting someone with multiple lives, dud missiles counting) then I think it's somewhat safe to assume that the nuclear cap is somewhat high. Last World at War had 34 nukes spread among 22 countries with 9 as the max radiation level. This game, assuming an average of 1.5 nukes per person (29 people), then we have about 43 nukes total. So I’m going to preemptively place the radiation level at around 12. Just my analysis based purely on the previous game. Take from it what you will. And with the night post would have said yep, I know the WRL (purely made up arbitrary number). Here are our role powers: Dec: You are in charge of the Wheatmarket. You have the power of blitzkrieg! You may double all actions that a player takes (besides yourself). Double role checks, double vigilante hits, double nuclear weapons, whatever. You may use this power only once per day/night cycle. Kurumi: In the tradition of most Japanese things involving cards you may summon monsters with them. These monsters may give you anything from role and name checks to an extra night life to an anti-missile card/medic protection to a single night hit. You may only pick one power per day and must use all four abilities before you can use them all again. Curu: You are the Tree Reich's Dharma Gobbels! You are the Cropaganda minister. You may frame anything you want about a player once per night, be it country, name, alignment, role, whatever! You may also deliver a speech for night phase which you PM to me during the day and I post with the night post. TAA: You are the leader of the Tree Reich. Aptly, you are also not only the head of the Axis (godfather, appears as you want to role and alignment checks) but also may once choose to end day at your choosing (namely, you will set the remaining time for day to 3 hours). You also have the power to once cancel an Allied campaign. You also have two anti-nuclear weapons. Kita: I have three nukes and a two time use activated protection role that will save me from kills for a cycle. I'm not sure if it will save me from lynches too, but if so I'll scum up the thread to distract everyone from the rest of you. My secondary ability is that when I die, all remaining Japanese players must immediately Admiral Ackbar a target by the end of the day/night phase in which you are killed, killing the target and anyone that used a role action on them during that cycle and bypassing medic protection. I guess it depends on how big a part of the axis my faction takes up to see how active I'll play. I still have to read the thread, so I'll probably post again in a bit. Here are my thoughts on the setup so far: prplhz: You are in charge of the ESES, the Environmental Services Endogenous Security. You welcome people of all colors like the Rainbow you are. You may check anyone of your choice to figure out what their identity and role is, and where they are from, once per night. That person is also jailed, meaning they will be roleblocked and immune to other night actions. Wiggles: Basically he can choose one person at night and that person is immune to all night actions, day actions, and nukes for one cycle. We should have easily won if we were all online. TAA shoots down the nuke at Wiggles, Kurumi throws his extra life onto himself. Unfortunately it was like 5 AM in Europe when their nukes landed so TAA and Kurumi weren't on in time. So I made a new plan: Alright guys. Here is who is left currently: Gmarshal – ONE LIFE LEFT Ciryandor – American, SHOULD die to kita’s nuke. Chance he survives because he’s Roosevelt. Coagulation – British, FUCKTON OF LIVES AND/OR NUKE IMMUNE Mig – can redirect nukes, I DON’T THINK HE’S BRITISH. SO MANY BRITISH ALREADY Drazerk – British, FUCKTON OF LIVES Gtr – what the fuck is he Nav – British, FUCKTON OF LIVES 7 of them alive. Kita survives his lynch and we night hit Mig. I'm going to assume Ciryandor will survive his nuke because he hasn't claimed any powers. This is worst possible scenario (besides if Mig survives, which will be bullshit because ANOTHER vet?). So 6 alive to 5 of us. Not bad but TAA is 100% getting lynched next day. That'll leave us 6 to 4 possibly going into the next night. Maybe TAA nukes someone as he dies, 5 to 4 (best case). Problem is like 4 of them have confirmed each other so me/Dec/GM/prplhz are the next on the list. None of us can survive nukes. We will probably lose. THIS IS WHAT I PROPOSE. BLITZKRIEG. TAA you cancel the extra life British campaign. Let's make sure none of these fuckers stay vets. THEN AGAIN, I don't think their vet status includes nukes. YM and Misder both died to 1 nuke and they were British. TAA shortens the day. I HOPE THIS MEANS NUKES WONT PROLONG DAY or this seems like a useless ability. We BLITZ lynch someone. Preferably Coag since he claims nuke immunity. We also nuke the fuck out of every remaining Townie (we have enough nukes, especially with dec's doubling power). This means we fire 6 nukes. Game goes to night. We hit Roosevelt in case he has a crapload of antinukes. If we haven't won by the next day then kita has one of his lives left (JeeJee used his Jack power to put the life on kita so he shouldn't have to use both of his to survive today. PLZ CONFIRM CALLER) and TAA has 1 antinuke left. We nuke the fuck out of every townie again (again, 6 nukes) and have kita use his life and TAA shoot down one of theirs. WE MAKE SURE WE NUKE FIRST SO THEY CANT FIRE OFF TWO EACH DUE TO RETALIATION STRIKES. What I need from you guys is a count of how many nukes you have left so dec knows who to double. If anyone has 3 nukes we double him on first day so he can nuke again second day. kita you need to scum the fuck out of this thread today. TAA MUST NOT BE LYNCHED. I had to attack Mig because he basically figured out 5 scum and was reaching confirmed Town status. How I came up with my plan: Kitaman can activate two extra lives that will save him from anything. He can only activate one each day though. This includes lynch. Kurumi was a Jack who could throw an extra life onto someone. So Kurumi threw the life onto Kita (survived Mig's redirection nuke), TAA shot down the second nuke heading at Kita. Dec doubles Kita's power so he activates one life to survive Navillus's nuke and has one left to survive the lynch. I had to shoot down Mig and make sure Kita did not get nuked one more time. So I came up with my big retaliation speech. It seemed to work since Mig said "damn I regret asking people to nuke Kita now." And Drazerk seemed to be on board with me too and suspect Mig. Navillus would obviously be on board with me but he was dead anyways. Coagulation seemed to suspect Mig a bit too now. I also used him asking TAA to be nuked against him since I knew TAA would flip scum when he died next day and would survive all nukes this day. THEN ANOTHER THING CAME UP IN THE IRC. Dec could only win if we killed TAA too. He also had a new operation: he gains 1 KP that night and an extra life and 2 nukes if TAA dies. So I convinced TAA that he was going to be dead next anyways and to bus him. Me and Kita had to make sure Dec did not shoot TAA with that night KP so we convinced him to simply nuke TAA the next day in an attempt to gain town cred. Dec's fakeclaim was amazing for this (all credit to Dec) as his scummy actions could be explained by the traitor part while he also appears Town by killing TAA. All of this was just the work we put into DAY 2 ONLY. So you see why I am pissed off that PALMAR won? I focused more on planning the mechanics and actions of what we should do rather than clearing myself. For some reason no one really suspected me as scum when I was pretending to be some super smart soldier but all my analysis flipped green people. | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On July 13 2011 00:33 Curu wrote: And that Palmar won simply because Caller lied to us in the thread about no radiation confirmation. Sigh. u mad? | ||
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On July 13 2011 00:37 Mig wrote: Kita's ocean claim was so ridiculous haha. We had so many great fake claims. The best part was the more ridiculous the claim the more believable it is. If it gets questioned just say 'Caller game lol' | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
CAPTAIN PLANET IS VERY MAD! | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On July 13 2011 00:38 deconduo wrote: We had so many great fake claims. The best part was the more ridiculous the claim the more believable it is. If it gets questioned just say 'Caller game lol' They were all bad, except for the Boreritish ones, which were fairly neutral but that's easy when all you have to do is wiki some name | ||
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
Curu your fake claim was good. When you first said oppenheimer I was like huh the only non military leader in the game? But then its like eh invented nukes whatever could be in there and just sort of dismissed it. | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
On July 13 2011 00:18 syllogism wrote: I think Mr. Wiggles was the only player on mafia team who played well. Curu was good but gave himself away by obviously being insightful/smart and yet tunnelling very obvious townies and being all over the place with his anti role claims stance. Once people started flipping it became obvious he wasn't just some townie with a delicate win con. Prplhz pushed his completely braindead newbie gimmick too far. Unfortunately the few townies who were actually playing seriously had to spend too much time fighting against other townies just to stop stupid lynches/nukes to actually pin the mafia down. Mig was awesome except for that kitaman nuke slip up lol I failed in my play but not the way you think I did. I was trying to scum up as much as possible without actually revealing myself as scum (I die to a single nuke and wouldn't want to waste one of our only two anitnukes on me so I wanted to be lynched) once anyone else got suspected because my power was by far the most useless out of the whole Mafia team. Unfortunately it didn't work and no one pointed at me solidly and as a result Kurumi, Wiggles, and JeeJee all died before me. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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TheAwesomeAll
Netherlands1609 Posts
 Also i found out that it sucks to be mafia since you cant really tunnel scum as much, and you can only tunnel townies. Also the town should have lynched GM imo, i made a pretty good case against him. MiG and draz WellPlayed, you guys were pretty good. A big mistake was the nuking kita | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
On July 13 2011 00:40 Mig wrote: Yea haha. I couldn't believe I had to argue for 10 pages about how fake kita's was. And heist wanted to let him live so he could confirm it even tho we already knew you guys were fucking with the day posts. Curu your fake claim was good. When you first said oppenheimer I was like huh the only non military leader in the game? But then its like eh invented nukes whatever could be in there and just sort of dismissed it. All credit for my claim goes to TAA (I think?). I wasn't the one that came up with Oppenheimer, one of my Mafia buddies did. | ||
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