EPTBtw, if you check last night's lynch, he never even brings 206 up as an opportunity for lynching. He's only focusing on Draz and VE.
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Btw, if you check last night's lynch, he never even brings 206 up as an opportunity for lynching. He's only focusing on Draz and VE. | ||
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On July 02 2011 05:55 syllogism wrote: If you read Chaos' later post, he wanted to get Varpulis or VE checked. I'm not sure what that implies because he had ample time to react to the results, assuming he didn't waste his check on someone else earlier. VE can also be GF who shows up as DT, which would explain the bus and the gambit. It's possible, but I think we're in pretty good shape with Youngminii and Sinani201 up for a lynch tonight. | ||
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Now I want to direct everyone to two very important posts in today's discussion. 1. Syllo's analysis of youngminii http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=237124¤tpage=47#927 2. My accusation and sinani206's analysis on his twin http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10085514 If people are still doubting youngminii is a great lynch candidate, then I'd like to point out that sandroba and chaos13 both suspected him. In addition Cthsazsa who is very likely pro-town has pointed a finger his way. Sandroba happens to be one of our better analysts, and chaos13 is a good solid player. So it's not just syllo who is pushing that lynch. Sinani201 is being accused by his twin, myself, sandroba pointed out the analysis was excellent at the time. There are other links. GM and Kenpachi (along with myself) both commented on how that analysis on 201 was only done when being pressured. But with chaos13's breadcrumbs, I don't think 206 (or supersoft, now) is scum. So let's hear it town, should we lynch YM or sinani201? | ||
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On July 02 2011 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote: :O NOOOOOOOOO That means I'm in all likelihood the last DT...no pressure or anything.  @syllo and everyone concerned about the timing of my Draz check The fact of the matter is that I didn't SAVE my check, I checked him about an hour after I first could. The reasoning was based on meta, admittedly. Remember what I said about martyrs? I followed SNMMIV because SNMMII was my first game here and I bore witness to his little ploy in that game. I didn't like it then, in spite of him being town all along. I thought he might try the same nonsense in this game so I wanted to find out his alignment RIGHT off the bat. Not much of a reason, but there isn't much of a reason to do anything that early in the game...from what I gather, blues typically have to wait until after d1 to make any checks, which is AMPLE time to have sufficient reason to check someone. Also, regarding my Kenpachi vote, I've played a couple of games with this guy and I've read some too...he's active when town, to the point of annoyance sometimes. I guess I just missed the guy. It was really just a pressure vote, but I felt it was justified because of his inactivity / presence on the lurker list. If he was still on the lurker list tomorrow, he was my #1 priority to check. I'm reading over 206 and YM's posts now...I was leaning pretty town on YM before, so I'm starting with him. It's 201, not 206 I want to kill | ||
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On July 02 2011 07:36 ~OpZ~ wrote: Good choice Bro. I'm voting Hiro. His instasheeping is bugging me...And I'd vote for YM, but I'm not voting 201 just yet. And seriously...VE being DT? How possible is that... VE DT or not should no longer concern us. We just keep him around and take all his reports with a grain of salt. If he's not found a red by day 4 or something we shoot or lynch him. I don't think Hiro is scum. He plays really weirdly as town from the games I've played with him, generally not contributing much beyond exactly what he's doing, sheeping something that looks good. His scum play is however not bad at all in my opinion. Like, I can of course not be 100% sure, but telling us he's sheeping my accusation is much closer to what I'd expect Hiro's town play to look like than his scum play. I want YM or 201 hanging, much rather than hiro. | ||
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On July 02 2011 07:43 ~OpZ~ wrote: What is everyone's position on Mr. Wiggles? Scummy as hell, but not worth it today. | ||
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I agree with syllo and mig on youngminii Let's hang him ##Unvote Sinani201 ##Vote Youngminii | ||
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We're lynching youngminii or sinani201 tonight. I like your analysis hyaach, but we need a strong presence and not tons of random finger pointings, no matter how good the cases are. | ||
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I really like your style syllogism. And yes, it's totally insane. let's hear his report tomorrow. The cool part? He _doesn't_ tell us who he is investigating and he doesn't tell us the results until we're into the 6h before the lynch period, so he can't have his mafia buddies off the investigated person before we can call him out on the lie. But not tonight Tonight there shall be someone else hanging. | ||
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Vig-check GM tomorrow, and then we hang sinani201 if that doesn't solve it. | ||
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On July 02 2011 08:08 ~OpZ~ wrote: I really would like you to stop posting....and possibly die. But I was more concerned in hitting 100% scum, not 70%....I think someone who can argue convincingly should take a look at you. Like YM, or Jackal. I can't. But you've wanted us to wait for VE for a while, and wanted me to hit GM all day. Fuck that. Go back to day 1 and check why VE was up for this whole thing anyway. (what's that, was it my aggressive push and analysis towards him that got him to fake that roleclaim in the first place?) But anyway, nice shot Opz. | ||
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On July 02 2011 08:11 GMarshal wrote: Sure. Keep telling yourself that. But people were listening to him, no one doubted his report on Visc. So tell me, how does your argument that I am scum based on wanting to lynch the DT stand now? Does it look... weaker? What are the arguments for me being scum now? Other than defending Drazek, which I will admit was a blunder on my part. Again, I'm cool with confirm shooting me tomorrow, but at least this makes the majority of the arguments against me null and void. My arguments remain the same man. If you honestly believed that we should lynch the DT first, why not just actually push for it. Note though, if you actually read through this day, I've both accused you with what I consider a pretty reasonable analysis, and then pointed out several points in your defense. I am much more interested in what you think about the current lynch targets. Youngminii and Sinani201. | ||
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On July 02 2011 08:15 ~OpZ~ wrote: Good point...I was with you too tho...He was spamming. It was bugging me. What's it to you?! I just haven't seen you posting like you were at VE since then. Time draining my memory away. No one's been pressuring, and I've been away most of the day. Atleast now, I think I'll be left alone about this lurking shit -_-....*afk next 32 hours* Thanks for popping by and shooting him And yes, I've totally left VE alone because it's my firm belief that forcing people to spin a web of lies is a great way of catching scum, thus we were okay with gambling on him staying alive. | ||
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that's basically what we have on 201. But I don't think it matters, YM is hanging tonight. | ||
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