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On June 30 2011 18:00 sandroba wrote: Clearly I'm a more important kill than the DT =) Well you asked me who I'd suggest DT checking and vigging  I guess the scum was stupid enough to think you were actually a) stupid enough to be that obvious, and b) stupid enough to take instructions from me. | ||
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On June 30 2011 18:11 syllogism wrote: If your action is on a timer and you are roleblocked, do you get the notified of the roleblock immediately lol stop soft-claiming and just ask the hosts in pm. | ||
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I still think DropBear might be one of our scum, he's playing almost exactly like I remember his scumplay from ptp, he completely rule out the Drazerk lynch but liked both VE and Sinani206 lynch. He's pointing fingers in all directions, he's called GMarshal, Eiii, Mig, Sinani206 all scum, and even in the same post. This is a great way to look like you're contributing while not commiting to anything because he knows, just as well as we know, that you're never going to get anything done unless you commit to it. @youngminii I quickly ctrl+f-ed my way through the thread, and I'm inclined to agree with you on mig for now. let's leave him off the hook for now. | ||
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On June 30 2011 23:32 Jackal58 wrote: Not really. If you do it there are 2 outcomes. Your guy gets lynched because the real DT claimed and you now have the real dt wrapped up. Or the real dt keeps his mouth shut until he can bring a case. Either way if you had 2 guys leading the lynch you still come out 1 day ahead. I'm just pointing out a scenario that is not outside of the realm of possibility. If another DT claims before VE is resolved there is a chance he'll be lynched. I don't think anyone is under the impression that VE is somehow cleared. I'm just fine with it being an excuse for letting him slide at the moment. Worst case: he's scum, and we're hunting 4 scum instead of 5. Best case: he's dt and either holds their roleblocker occupied or gets us an investigation or two. If he brings us another guilty case (I'm going to pretty much ignore any innocent case until he's dead), then I'll be fine testing it too. But for now, the risk vs reward is in my opinion in the town's favour, so that's the direction I intend to take us. | ||
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I wonder what propped that shot, youngminii and I pointing in his direction? Go town, lol | ||
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typing on a phone atm, sorry about the shortness | ||
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Also, this immediately clears me of being the vigilante, as DropBear wasn't a DT. | ||
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On July 01 2011 01:54 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, check is back...I'm not disclosing role because that would give information to all you mafia out there, but I can say that he's innocent. So there you have it...my one free investigation. Either DB was targetting me or all the mafia roleblocks were still on cooldown. Now we have to figure out how to proceed from here. I suggest d3 I do a lurker check - there are some serious people on the lurker list, not just the typical new players I was expecting to see there...so we should consider doing a lurker check d3. I'm going back to reread posts from the following: Lanaia, 201, Mr.Wiggles, and Vain. I'm hoping something comes up, as I'm not really hopeful about getting a check d3. PS, I'm still waiting on a vig to confirm GM's claim...a confirmed townie in GM would be a powerful weapon against scum. Please don't investigate people on the lurker list, those are better investigated with bullets. I like vain, chaos13, youngminii, syllo for checks. | ||
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On July 01 2011 03:23 Lanaia wrote: Let me preface this post by saying Kurumi is my favourite for the post with the Hello Kitty picture. <3 I agree with chaos13 here. GM's play is making my head spin because of this play of his. I don't think he should have said anything and should have waited until a vig hit, and then possibly said something? I don't know, but I know I don't like what he's done here. And I don't like how he's constantly talking about it. It feels really damn wifom-y to me. I'm not going to give a list of people I think should be vigged or protected. Those who should be protected are probably obvious. I have this crazy sensation that sinasi206 or however you spell it is scum. I will have to reread him in isolation though. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10062251 I don't care if he's acted pro-town. GM is way too good at this game to do what I described in this short analysis. | ||
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On July 01 2011 03:39 Lanaia wrote: Okay, changed my mind. I'll wait to see how supersoft plays. I never said I still think he's town. I read your post and I agree with it. Especially the toe-dipping analogy. I feel it really fits. As you've said, I also think he should be shot, but it really bothers me that he's actively seeking it out. If he isn't shot today, I'll probably vote for him. If he doesn't get shot then yes, I think he should hang. Whatever happens, GM needs to die. I was hoping a one-shot vigi would realize the urgency of shooting him, and then confirming it if GM is a veteran. | ||
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This guy i an excellent lurker-vig target. | ||
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On July 01 2011 04:45 ~OpZ~ wrote: That's not possible....Point your icky finger at me again and I'm biting it. Come on Jackal, I can't have a little fun...I'm waiting for the herd to thin out a bit. Can't stand this 30+ pages a day shit. My opinion's as of now, VIGING GM IS RETARDED. Scum would pop him the instant he claimed vig hit. He should have just claimed he was vig hit. If there is another vig out there, he'd probably be thinking "Oh shit, there's ANOTHER vig? Okay. That makes sense." and tried to draw the scum hit instead. Nub. Put a point in malicious anti-scum plotting. GM Scum would love to pop you if you were town, at least according to everyone else. I've been very vehemently stating that I don't think vigi's should pop people this early (But good job with DropBear). Honestly, if GM does die, and pops town, I'd point at all those people who said for a vig to shoot him. YoungMinii and You, Mr. Palmar. I also very much so think YM is scum, buuuuuuut with that said, I always think YM is scum....Always. I don't trust YM, read up and see I suggested him for a DT check. And once again, I want to kill GMarshal. I want him dead and I stand by that notion. If I'm wrong, then so be it. But I outlined my reasons quite clearly in my analysis of his actions around and after the Drazerk lynch. But sure, you can come guns blazing at me. I'm at my best when under heavy pressure, that's why I'm putting myself in the driver's seat for this town. If you think Youngminii is scum, why don't you actually do something useful and try to prove to the rest of us he's scum? Same thing if you think I am scum. The first part of the Day should be all about figuring out who we are going after. If YM is scum, and you called it, but never got even close to getting him lynched, that doesn't make you right, it simply makes you a bad townie. Being right and being smart is useless if you can't actually turn that knowledge into something. | ||
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On July 01 2011 05:13 Cthsazsa wrote: EBWOP: I might as well say it now since I'm pretty positive someone's going to bring it up in the future. The hidden reason why I switched to VE was because I thought I saw a blue hint from Palmar. Sadly I was wrong  I'm not the subtle kind of guy, I usually say things quite straight out. Never look for breadcrumbs, clues or hints in my posts. I will not use those unless I have a really good reason to. | ||
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On July 01 2011 05:48 syllogism wrote: As for GM, I don't see how vigi hitting him is useful. The vigi would have to roleclaim and we've no way of knowing if the vigi is town without wasting a DT check on him. Now, this would net us two scum, but the odds them doing this gambit are low. However the mere possibility means GM can't be confirmed in this manner. Even assuming we believe the vigi and thus confirm both, one or both of them will be likely mafia targets. If the vigi is a compulsory vigi, this doesn't seem like a good trade. It seems to me GM has to be lynched sooner or later. Cause we always kill GM at some point anyway. Even if a vigi claims shooting him, and he claims shot, then he still dies before we're in lylo. We can't have such a controversial player with such important slips and fuck-ups in lylo, when we need as much clean, simple information as we can possibly get. By the way, just so everyone is aware. DropBear writes to point some of his fingers towards fellow scum when he's doing his "point at everyone" thing to distract town. But I still need more evidence before I'm willing to push a lynch on someone like Eiii. This is the time to bring up ideas. I'm going to have a look at chaos13. Anyone who says I'm posting well is probably scum. | ||
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On July 01 2011 06:51 VisceraEyes wrote: I do not agree that GM is scum. I think he's too set on catching a bullet. I mean, he COULD be like, GF that's painted up to LOOK like a Vet, but I seriously doubt he'd gamble his life against 1)Vigs too chickenshit to do something for town, 2) DT noticing this and throwing a check on him, 3) DT verifying his claim. It doesn't make sense. Period. GM CAN NOT be scum, I 100% guarantee it. I'll check him tomorrow if you guys spare him tonight, but really...thinking he's scum after BEGGING for a bullet is...guys, it's retarded. There's no other way to say it. Scum WOULD NOT do that. Unless this is exactly the reaction he's hoping for. I want him dead. I refer to my earlier analysis. | ||
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On July 01 2011 08:16 Eiii wrote: hahahaha Anyway, town seems to have lost focus between the GM ordeal and everything else. I think all that needs to be said is that he's used the pressure as an excuse to completely stop contributing analysis or anything at all apart from 'shoot me', which is extremely scummy in my eyes. We can lynch him today, but I'd rather just pretend that every non-useful post of his in the thread doesn't exist so we can focus on more interesting targets. I'm still curious to see what other people have to say about chaos/hiro. I don't think the case against 206 is too strong, he just feels like bad town to me. I'll reorganize town tomorrow, but for now I like a bit of chaos. I want people thinking and going off on their own hunting scum | ||
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