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On June 30 2011 04:57 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 04:54 Mig wrote:On June 30 2011 04:48 sinani206 wrote:
I voted for VE because he promised analysis and didn't deliver, and when he did, it wasn't as good as he hyped it up to be. He probably took like 10 minutes to write that. I acknowledge that I haven't found anyone outstandingly scummy to do an analysis of. What do you want me to do, apologize? How can you not find anything scummy to analyze lol? Practically everyone else in the game has done at least some analysis. I mean it isn't hard. If you want to contribute just post your thoughts on the other players, who you suspect and why. I mean surely after 30 pages you have some people you are more suspicious of than others. GM. I can't explain though, it's just so hard to get this out of my head. It may be because of his leading, but for some reason I just find him extremely scummy.
Wow... that is stupidly weak
"I suspect GM ... But i have no reason why"
The only reason you have is him leading the town when we have already discussed how this is not scummy unless they constantly try to control every blue command.
Palmar is leading the town. Is he scum to you as well?
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On June 30 2011 05:10 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 05:04 Drazerk wrote:On June 30 2011 04:57 sinani206 wrote:On June 30 2011 04:54 Mig wrote:On June 30 2011 04:48 sinani206 wrote:
I voted for VE because he promised analysis and didn't deliver, and when he did, it wasn't as good as he hyped it up to be. He probably took like 10 minutes to write that. I acknowledge that I haven't found anyone outstandingly scummy to do an analysis of. What do you want me to do, apologize? How can you not find anything scummy to analyze lol? Practically everyone else in the game has done at least some analysis. I mean it isn't hard. If you want to contribute just post your thoughts on the other players, who you suspect and why. I mean surely after 30 pages you have some people you are more suspicious of than others. GM. I can't explain though, it's just so hard to get this out of my head. It may be because of his leading, but for some reason I just find him extremely scummy. Wow... that is stupidly weak "I suspect GM ... But i have no reason why" The only reason you have is him leading the town when we have already discussed how this is not scummy unless they constantly try to control every blue command. Palmar is leading the town. Is he scum to you as well? Quick! Help me decide whether I vote to lynch you, or vote to lynch VE....I've been saying I was gonna vote VE for a good minute, but srsly looks like the DT breadcrumbed that he checked you. I didn't bold your name in the post I quoted, it was already bolded....I bolded the capped letters.... But it could be a coincidence, I can't make my mind up! Cuz in all likelihood you both could be town. It is day one...But a lot of talking has occurred over you and GM... GM, I want your opinion on ViscEyes....
Vote Neither - Get 206 He's scum
If any of our votes can be Mafia lynch switched I suggest we get Eyes as he's been pretty scummy as well
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On June 30 2011 05:26 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 05:16 ~OpZ~ wrote:On June 30 2011 05:08 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Ok, so looking at the people who are up for lynching right now, drazerk looks like the scummiest by far, because of the major slip he made.
He not only martyred, but he martyred, and then about three posts later in the thread, he pointed out how he did the same thing as town. At first I though he might have been terrible town, but the fact that he explicitly states that he does the same thing as a townie looks scummy as all hell to me. Just a last ditch response to pressure that he reacted badly to, in my eyes. Ad on his weird flopping with GM and his attack on Sinani, and that's good enough for me to lynch on.
##Vote: Drazerk
Also, could someone explain the case on visc to me better? I'm not too too familiar with his play in other games, but it looks like the case on him is:
1. Isn't playing to his town meta
2. Doesn't contribute
I don't think that's enough for me to be comfortable lynching on, because looks a lot like he's just lazy. How does he normally act that makes this such a jarring change? Someone else had said that he matrys every game he is town before hand he said it himself iirc. You should seriously look into that if thats a primary reason of yours for voting him. Just saying. As far as I can see, he was the first one to mention it: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=237124¤tpage=24What reason does a townie have for martyring himself with 30 hours left in the lynch and then pointing out a specific game where he did the same thing as town? That looks like the bad self defense of a nooby scum.
Martyring keeps me around as the Mafia will use me as an Obvious lynch target / Vig shot, If I can make it through all of that it becomes pretty easy to stay alive and Hunt mafia based of who is trying to push me
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On June 30 2011 05:41 Varpulis wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 05:18 ~OpZ~ wrote:On June 30 2011 05:14 Varpulis wrote:Back from camp, just caught up on the thread. First things first: Palmar, stop calling yourself the brother protector and guide of the town, please. The more you try to call for authority the more suspicious i get. That said, I agree with your big post about how to play (win), and your lists. Second, on Drazerk: I'm glad to see that he's not given up completely yet. If I may make a suggestion, any compulsive vig that we've got should shoot him. If he's town, we get to lynch somebody else, with additional information from his flip, and if he's scum, it's a win-win situation. If you're a normal vig with one shot, keep it holstered, but if you need to shoot, there's your target. Third: On June 30 2011 04:09 Sinani201 wrote:
You're trying to draw attention away from the large amount of votes you have accumulated. We have pretty much established that you are scum so why should anyone trust you? This post is really bad, to the point of being scummy. "Don't listen to him, because he's leading the lynch, which means he's scum." Just taking note of that, for later reference. I'm going to look through the posts of VisceraEyes and Drazerk, and make my decision for who to lynch in a little bit. Stay tuned. ...VIGILANTES, need to NOT be shooting. Omg. Town killing itself if exactly what the mafia wants. Compulsive vig should be discussed a little. But now is not the time for that. Night phase, or the day he starts being able to shoot. did you not read the piece about regular vig's not shooting? Compulsive vig's have to shoot. I think that Drazerk is a perfect person to take that shot. There is no night phase. Go read the setup, please.
I still think that 206 would be a better target ( read my earlier analysis ), Depends on how many compulsive Vigis we have though if you still want to shoot me.
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On June 30 2011 05:51 sinani206 wrote:
Of course you think I'm a better target because you don't want to die. lol
If I did not care about dying why would I martyr in every game I join?
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On June 30 2011 05:53 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 05:51 sinani206 wrote:
Of course you think I'm a better target because you don't want to die. lol If I cared about dying why would I martyr in every game I join?
Edited because I fail at English
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On June 30 2011 05:56 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 05:54 Drazerk wrote:On June 30 2011 05:53 Drazerk wrote:On June 30 2011 05:51 sinani206 wrote:
Of course you think I'm a better target because you don't want to die. lol If I cared about dying why would I martyr in every game I join? Edited because I fail at English You're using the martyr thing to defend yourself again. Do you not understand that dying is detrimental to your team?
A death can reveal a lot of information ...
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On June 30 2011 05:58 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 05:56 Drazerk wrote:On June 30 2011 05:56 sinani206 wrote:On June 30 2011 05:54 Drazerk wrote:On June 30 2011 05:53 Drazerk wrote:On June 30 2011 05:51 sinani206 wrote:
Of course you think I'm a better target because you don't want to die. lol If I cared about dying why would I martyr in every game I join? Edited because I fail at English You're using the martyr thing to defend yourself again. Do you not understand that dying is detrimental to your team? A death can reveal a lot of information ... Not in your case.
I would like to throw this conversation out there that He is Still not contributing but rather using OMGUS in One liners ...
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Can we also address the fact most Europeans will be locking their votes in the next few hours as so I urge to to vote sinani206
Reasoning
If your not going to vote for him I understand as VE is still acting suspicious
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On June 30 2011 06:09 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 06:00 Drazerk wrote:On June 30 2011 05:58 sinani206 wrote:On June 30 2011 05:56 Drazerk wrote:On June 30 2011 05:56 sinani206 wrote:On June 30 2011 05:54 Drazerk wrote:On June 30 2011 05:53 Drazerk wrote:On June 30 2011 05:51 sinani206 wrote:
Of course you think I'm a better target because you don't want to die. lol If I cared about dying why would I martyr in every game I join? Edited because I fail at English You're using the martyr thing to defend yourself again. Do you not understand that dying is detrimental to your team? A death can reveal a lot of information ... Not in your case. I would like to throw this conversation out there that He is Still not contributing but rather using OMGUS in One liners ... Also, you're "throwing it out there" on purpose to make people vote for me instead of you. That's a really scummy defense.
Someone who has not contributed much making one liners and then claims that me pointing out is a scummy move...
You are Scum and unless you can prove me other whys my vote will stay on you
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On June 30 2011 06:14 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 06:12 Drazerk wrote:On June 30 2011 06:09 sinani206 wrote:On June 30 2011 06:00 Drazerk wrote:On June 30 2011 05:58 sinani206 wrote:On June 30 2011 05:56 Drazerk wrote:On June 30 2011 05:56 sinani206 wrote:On June 30 2011 05:54 Drazerk wrote:On June 30 2011 05:53 Drazerk wrote:On June 30 2011 05:51 sinani206 wrote:
Of course you think I'm a better target because you don't want to die. lol If I cared about dying why would I martyr in every game I join? Edited because I fail at English You're using the martyr thing to defend yourself again. Do you not understand that dying is detrimental to your team? A death can reveal a lot of information ... Not in your case. I would like to throw this conversation out there that He is Still not contributing but rather using OMGUS in One liners ... Also, you're "throwing it out there" on purpose to make people vote for me instead of you. That's a really scummy defense. Someone who has not contributed much making one liners and then claims that me pointing out is a scummy move... You are Scum and unless you can prove me other whys my vote will stay on you OK, how do I prove you "otherwhys"?
Actually produce an analysis, Form a real opinion for yourself rather than jumping on band wagons and stop producing all this pointless fluff to try and blend in as a townie when you are obviously not
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On June 30 2011 06:40 sinani206 wrote:
I think I may have pinned someone, but I'm not entirely sure about him/her yet. Give me a few minutes.
More Whishy washy scum posting?
Get a suspect and commit to it.
this is just fluff buying you enough times for people in Europe to go to sleep unable to change votes
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On June 30 2011 06:52 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 06:48 Drazerk wrote:On June 30 2011 06:40 sinani206 wrote:
I think I may have pinned someone, but I'm not entirely sure about him/her yet. Give me a few minutes. More Whishy washy scum posting? Get a suspect and commit to it. this is just fluff buying you enough times for people in Europe to go to sleep unable to change votes um? what? If sinani is scum that would be idiotic of him. Im a fair bit more interested in why you came to this conclusion. I thought you didn't mind dying?
Doesn't mean I can't pressure people I think are scum
Hence why I am ignoring Kerpachi's post about still voting for me
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On June 30 2011 08:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
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206 is playing pretty standard to his meta...any game I've seen him as town in, he claims having a hard time coming up with stuff to post, when he does, it typically parrots others' analysis and isn't EVER a strong stance one way or the other.
Drazerk I have no meta on, aside from his game in SNMMIV. He DID martyr in that game, but I notice that he didn't bring attention to the fact that it's one of his "strategies" in that game. I think him bringing up his OWN meta in an attempt to verify his town status REEKS of scum, and it should to everyone else too. Meta is only useful if the person using it notices it on their own. It's absolutely useless if pointed out by the accused, as you then have to question whether or not there are ulterior motives behind it.
Drazerk's play can be described as.....erratic. That much is for sure. But I lean more toward scum in his case mainly because of the whole martyr thing. I did that once, I found it was a terrible idea and is WHOLLY detrimental to my team. I can honestly say that I'd NEVER play that way again. It's like saying 'Fine, if you don't believe me, I'll just sabotage your numbers so you have less of a chance to win'....hidden under the guise of 'so you can confirm me one way or the other'. It's wrong, I consider it cheating, and the fact that he's saying that he does it all the time makes me want to lynch him even if he's town.
Also, he attacked you...and you're one of the towniest townies that ever towned a town, imho. You might be a little gung-ho against inactives, but on this forum, that's just a happy byproduct of having played and hosted a TON of games where inactives LOST town the game.
So there, in a nutshell, why Drazerk over 206. I think 206 is newb-town and I think Draz is newb-scum.
I did not attack GM i suspected him, I never committed and when i did commit it was by far in the other direction. Why not use myself as a sacrificial lamb for Mafia votes? - It worked at the end of Mini Mafia and if gtrsrs had not flamed everyone in day one we would have won as I had predicted every Mafia member thanks to the martyring.
206 has huge Evidence stacked behind him ( Ill get to his big post in while ) and would be a much better choice for today. Don't like what you see after the lynch just vig shoot me tomorrow.
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Right I am going to bed, 206 you have actually picked up but I am keeping my vote on you for today if you carry on through tomorrow ill look into 201 ( Originally suspected so good pick up )
If I die while i am a sleep, well GG it was fun
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Ahh well that happened...
Good luck everyone 
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Hang on you let GM live? 
I need to work on making people more scummy so when I flip they die as well.
Cheers for hosting RoL even if you let town win at the end.
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On July 04 2011 20:43 GMarshal wrote:Apologies for playing a god awful game, RL really fucked me over. I give myself the LVP award 
No No I get that one, I should of befriended you earlier when suspicion wasn't on me. Allowing the remaining mafia to actually build a good case against you.
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