EPTShraft has as of right now over 9000 points more than everyone else.
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(This is only the first draft of evaluation criteria. "Good looks" will be dropped, "Pictures of cats" seems pretty valid though)
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Mataza
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Shraft has as of right now over 9000 points more than everyone else. + Show Spoiler + (This is only the first draft of evaluation criteria. "Good looks" will be dropped, "Pictures of cats" seems pretty valid though) | ||
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I will decide that the alphabetical first player to not talk is lynched. Right now it´s Demorcerf. | ||
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That´s Fudgemunkey for you. Get talking or get shot. | ||
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If you are masoned to one of the other galdiators, feel free to use the PMs you exchanged to accuse one another. You are all unreadable. Whoever of Mr. wiggles and GGQ is not already scum will be dead tomorrow. Then we are at the same situation as now. That is why you all must begin talking now. If you don´t talk, then why the hell do you even sign up? ##vote DeMorcerf | ||
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That´s what the Colosseum is for. We know rather well were we all stand, but you 6 are clean slates. Now, according to what I think there 1, 2 or 3 scum in the 6 of you. If you are as silent as them, maybe you know how to find the scum among you? If you guys would talk, no one of us "evil, oppressing players" would interfere. You still haven´t voiced any opinion yet besides that we should know why you don´t talk(which I do not). | ||
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That will automatically open a search for the posts said player wrote. That is how I do it usually. | ||
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I have been pushing my opinion in small and medium length posts all game. | ||
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It was a heated discussion between Shraft and....nobody else actually. Sinani206 was the only other guy to post and his only comment was he is happy to be the one to be pressured last. Now Round 2: Accusathron starts! You have to state whether or not you find these players suspicious: GGQ, RebirthofLegend and Mr. Wiggles. You are still encouraged to look for the scum hiding among you 6: DeMorcerf, Fudgemunkey, Jacinto, Landenc, Sinani206, Shraft | ||
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We have 3 nights of Lynch right or Lose coming up. If we don´t get anything out of you less outspoken people, and you don´t have any information or opinion yourself, then I don´t see much hope. | ||
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I don´t have any. If we lynch RoL, a combination of Wiggles, you and me is being shot tonight, which leaves tomorrow to one guy who talks at all. And to win we must get to the day *after* that. Or we have a really good vig in the audience. I don´t want anymore. I´m not here to tell others what to think and who to vote. There is 1 scum or more in the 6 lurkers. If we can´t find him now, good luck finding him later. (Hint: He is not going to say anything) (Another hint: The others aren´t going to say anything either) | ||
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On June 25 2011 12:04 FudgeMunkey wrote: Rather than lynching me save the lynches for actual mafia. If you really want me dead then just Vig me at night... You do realise that vig hitting wrong also means we lose? We cannot lose another townie to townside kp unless we get a magical blue action directly after it. | ||
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Now I am ready to go by an odd bit of advice I picked up on Epicmafia: If you are in lylo and you must either lynch a person who´s been scummy all game long or someone who´s been clean and pro town, you should probably lynch the clean pro townplayer. Or in another way, some of the players here have such bad posts in general that scum would have begun prewriting their posts days ago. With that in mind let´s look again: Jacinto - Has less than 10 posts.... In his posts it shows that he has no clue what is going on. Sinani - A couple more posts than 10. Very active in the beginning, than he was at the grand canyon LandenC - Only like 10 posts also. Just look at some posts. He agrees BC may be the godfather, for example. Promising to make a post, yet 2 hours later it didn´t get that long. If he really has the opinions he shows in his posts, he would have plenty reasons to post more. Lurkers lurk because they don´t know what to say. If you have something to say and just don´t post, you are withholding. Demorcerf - Has also like 10 posts or so. He notices nodes inactivity, and then vanishes himself for almost a day. Now this is interesting. Here´s the quote: On June 18 2011 15:54 DeMorcerf wrote: @aidnai and wiggles: [removedspoiler] @aidnai With my inexperience, I'm not going to claim to know anyone is definitively mafia -- I will post to say what strikes me as particularly suspicious or strange. (I'll post my opinion on hiro after I sleep.) wiggles and someone else pointed a finger at GGQ on d1, I don't see it yet; he seems to be playing similar to game I played with him before where he was town. @wiggles, I don't think I was brought as a candidate for lynching except by sandroba, who then retracted saying he had misread my post. Either way, I understand why you'd be bothered by my lack of contribution; it's not intentional.[spoilerend] On grassg and jacinto: + Show Spoiler + In my opinion, I would have thought that if grassg or jacinto were mafia, their teammates would have given them better direction by now, but by the same token if they were overwhelmed newb town they could have made some note of that as well. It's suspicious certainly, but they just seem quite inactive or disinterested. On Jacinto, he made his first post in a few different threads before finding the right one, it was a decent enough post, but his second and last post advocated killing lurkers that don't start posting because "if we don't and they happen to be mafia, we're gonna be in trouble" -- that was over 32 hours ago, (I'll admit I got busy and was afk for a similar time period) so maybe he'll still return. But grassg's lack of any real post seems unlikely to change; why didn't he just let himself be modkilled. FudgeMunkey and RoL had an extensive exchange at the start where Fudge told people not to mason RoL (or mason in general til later in the game). Then: + Show Spoiler + On June 15 2011 15:59 FudgeMunkey wrote: Yes, I agree with 'youngminii'... It seems as if the 'scum' never seem to support a strategy and instead find ways to make it look like its incorrect/false or just plain stupid... They hope to make it look like the person there arguing with is obviously Scum rather than townie or Blue. Look at this: He say he is inexperienced and won´t know definitely someone as scum. And then later he suggests that FudgeM is very likely scum, because "Why would a town" do this. Also highlighted "Don´t think that I know whether or not Sinani is town" -> It´s a preemptive defence. No one has accused him, yet he goes and explains something. In this case that he didn´t have certain knowledge that scum for example would have. First of all, townies usually believe someone is town. There is never someone knowing and excusing yourself for not magically knowing is just unnecessary. That is why I strongly suspect Demorcerf and LandenC to be mafia. | ||
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We needed to unearth at least something today so we don´t go into tomorrow without even trying. Shraft has won the Colisseum by default. I was really looking forward to make a lot of Harry Potter references for the next 3 days with me as "the boy who survived" and RoL as "You know who" who keeps whispering in my ear until we have the final showdown at 3 way lylo. | ||
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You must fight to ther bitter end! | ||
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OH MY GOD! HE WASN´T DIAMONDS! | ||
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Also yes that 100% of regularly speaking was scum.... Thanks for lying, then lying and then lying a bit more RoL. Was awesome anyway. And Sandroba leaked the plan while drunk? Really? | ||
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On June 26 2011 01:31 Mataza wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Hooray, we are in a world of trouble it seems. Now I am ready to go by an odd bit of advice I picked up on Epicmafia: If you are in lylo and you must either lynch a person who´s been scummy all game long or someone who´s been clean and pro town, you should probably lynch the clean pro townplayer. Or in another way, some of the players here have such bad posts in general that scum would have begun prewriting their posts days ago. With that in mind let´s look again: Jacinto - Has less than 10 posts.... In his posts it shows that he has no clue what is going on. Sinani - A couple more posts than 10. Very active in the beginning, than he was at the grand canyon LandenC - Only like 10 posts also. Just look at some posts. He agrees BC may be the godfather, for example. Promising to make a post, yet 2 hours later it didn´t get that long. If he really has the opinions he shows in his posts, he would have plenty reasons to post more. Lurkers lurk because they don´t know what to say. If you have something to say and just don´t post, you are withholding. Demorcerf - Has also like 10 posts or so. He notices nodes inactivity, and then vanishes himself for almost a day. Now this is interesting. Here´s the quote: On June 18 2011 15:54 DeMorcerf wrote: @aidnai and wiggles: [removedspoiler] @aidnai With my inexperience, I'm not going to claim to know anyone is definitively mafia -- I will post to say what strikes me as particularly suspicious or strange. (I'll post my opinion on hiro after I sleep.) wiggles and someone else pointed a finger at GGQ on d1, I don't see it yet; he seems to be playing similar to game I played with him before where he was town. @wiggles, I don't think I was brought as a candidate for lynching except by sandroba, who then retracted saying he had misread my post. Either way, I understand why you'd be bothered by my lack of contribution; it's not intentional.[spoilerend] On grassg and jacinto: + Show Spoiler + In my opinion, I would have thought that if grassg or jacinto were mafia, their teammates would have given them better direction by now, but by the same token if they were overwhelmed newb town they could have made some note of that as well. It's suspicious certainly, but they just seem quite inactive or disinterested. On Jacinto, he made his first post in a few different threads before finding the right one, it was a decent enough post, but his second and last post advocated killing lurkers that don't start posting because "if we don't and they happen to be mafia, we're gonna be in trouble" -- that was over 32 hours ago, (I'll admit I got busy and was afk for a similar time period) so maybe he'll still return. But grassg's lack of any real post seems unlikely to change; why didn't he just let himself be modkilled. FudgeMunkey and RoL had an extensive exchange at the start where Fudge told people not to mason RoL (or mason in general til later in the game). Then: + Show Spoiler + On June 15 2011 15:59 FudgeMunkey wrote: Yes, I agree with 'youngminii'... It seems as if the 'scum' never seem to support a strategy and instead find ways to make it look like its incorrect/false or just plain stupid... They hope to make it look like the person there arguing with is obviously Scum rather than townie or Blue. Look at this: He say he is inexperienced and won´t know definitely someone as scum. And then later he suggests that FudgeM is very likely scum, because "Why would a town" do this. Also highlighted "Don´t think that I know whether or not Sinani is town" -> It´s a preemptive defence. No one has accused him, yet he goes and explains something. In this case that he didn´t have certain knowledge that scum for example would have. First of all, townies usually believe someone is town. There is never someone knowing and excusing yourself for not magically knowing is just unnecessary. That is why I strongly suspect Demorcerf and LandenC to be mafia. Bam! I guessed the millers right, lol. Some things here happened really strange. I caught BC because I thought RoL was scum. I was sure that Wiggles and RoL wouldn´t be same team as Wiggles reacted to my accusation by sheeping RoL´s YM lynch without a second thought. I had Jacinto for a moment, also GGQ, but then the RoL incident happened, which led to BC <.< This shit was bananas, don´t deny it. | ||
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On June 27 2011 07:12 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Oh, haha. So tat actually is what the slip was supposed to be? Not very strong then, as far as laying a trap goes :p You tell me. There are a lot of "ifs" and "buts" to it. I will never again just believe someone he did something, because he says so. | ||
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I overheard that Sandroba went ahead and told BC who he suspects, and it was along the lines of Wiggles/GGQ/one other scum. Afaik he did only share it with BC, and BC obviously couldn´t let him live after that. I was shot because.........I think as a medicsnipe. I did not know that Sandroba painted a huge target on his back to someone else and that´s why my trap didn´t work out. | ||
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