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Will get to explaining why in a bit, I am catching up on the thread. He said something that stuck out at me as really really scum. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=230789¤tpage=15#287 | ||
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On June 18 2011 15:34 youngminii wrote: Everyone, do me a favour. Click that "All" button at the page numbers, type ctrl+F and look up rebirthoflegend. How the fuck is that not scummy. Here are some golden quotes. NOTE: He came up with the 'plan' to mass mason him. I have actually mason'd him and he's literally done NOTHING about it. We've sent each other 3 PMs basically saying 'sup'. Why the fuck would you make half the town mason you when you're literally not going to do a single thing about it? FOR WHAT? That's bullshit, it's the exact same reason as sandroba and you managed to word it differently. WHY WOULD YOU SOFT CLAIM MAD HATTER? ON THE FIRST NIGHT? Nah this is just scum pretending to leave bread crumbs. What the fuck nonsense is this. The only track record necessary in my eyes is this game. It scream out "HAS DONE NOTHING" Seriously? You get half the town to mason you then you make excuses about how you've been inactive? Nonononononono. "but youngminii you have the let him fly! just wait for him to spread his wings and soar gracefully over the shitfest that TL Mafiaa XLII has become!" This is not flying, this is madness. WHAT REASONING ARE YOU KIDDING ME ?????????????????????? ??????????????????? ?????????????????? You said this in the day. I don't even know why'd you say this, it's just stupid. He just used past experiences to gain cred even though he's done literally jackall for this game. I did this once too (it was Mafia XXX that was analysed by Ver, just in case you're curious). This is a big factor in the reason why I personally believe he's mafia, but I know most of you won't accept this as a point in my argument. Why are you playing this game. He makes half of town claim to him, does nothing, pulls this shit?? He's giving excuses for being inactive later. ALERT ALERT THIS IS SCUMMY. This just looks like he's taunting town to see how far he can get away with it. I'm sure it is too. Him being mafia can also explain his whole "DTs don't check anyone in the Zodiac list (including me)!!!" What do you have to say RoL? Because at this point you look FAR scummier than Kenpachi or even Hiro is. I am too lazy to actually remove all the content. The only thing I wish to respond to is this. On June 15 2011 06:55 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I have a better method of organizing blues that doesn't involve a potentially scum third party and is completely transparent to the town. X,Y,Z,1,2 are all inactive players. I take the player count (30) divide by 5. we get groups of 6. if you are a DT/Vig between 1-6 shoot/check X If you are a DT/Vig between 7-12 shoot/check Y If you are a DT/Vig between 13-18 shoot/check Z If you are a DT/Vig between 19-24 shoot/check 1 If you are a DT/Vig between 25-30 shoot/check 2 Minimal overlap, rapes lurkers, don't need some shitty plan that gets you killed, the best part of it is that anyone can make the list of who to check/vig and it can be carried out. I was serious, and this isn't retarded. Ask anyone who has any sense of literacy. It's a decent way to organize vigi's and detectives that minimizes overlap. I mean, I am sure it's not the MOST ideal, but sometimes its the best you can do. I would say it is without a doubt a better strategy then coordinating blues through one individual for several reasons. 1. You waste a night of checking on one guy and hope he isn't the godfather. With my strategy that night of checking is NOT wasted. 2. Vigi's CANNOT be safely inaugurated into this circle because we can't prove that the checked person isn't godfather, so they basically just have to blindly claim. With my strategy they are utilized the same exact way as DT's which retains their effectiveness with minimal risk. Point out any flaws with this and don't respond with something like "Wtf is this shit" this strategy is legitimate, and the risk of overlap decreases with the more targets you have. | ||
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On June 19 2011 05:49 sandroba wrote: Well RoL, I really don't think you are scum, because you are acting too controversial and reckless, claiming multiple shit and atracting attention to yourself, and that's the exact oposite of how scum usually behave imo. However, people are right that you have been useless so far, so how about you share with us your 3-4 scum suspects and do some analysis? You are saying ILJ lynch was retarded but you did not try to stop it. Also how are you supose to be able to "scumhunt in pm land" if you don't even have time to read the fucking thread? It's kind of hard to defend you when you do nothing to defend yourself. To explain that, I used that PM strategy to assure myself N0 medic protection because I assumed I was likely to get hit early on, and by pretending I was very important the mafia would be too scared to actually hit me, because I was likely to draw a protect. I actually never received even close to as many masons as I claimed. I have like 3 atm. | ||
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syllogism The first post I want to point out is the one I linked earlier. On June 15 2011 21:26 syllogism wrote: My vote will be on ilovejonn and will remain there unless a better suspect arises. It's a typical early day 1 case, but youngminii did outline valid points and his defence has so far been questionable. Further, I would like to outline this post again This post would make more sense if he had just encouraged everyone on the list to start posting, though perhaps that town qualifier was just there to pressure mafia. In addition, logically it doesn't make much sense as getting killed on night 0 sucks whether you happened to make a few posts or not and posting would only make it more likely. The entire bold portion is completely non committing. He is voting for someone while saying its "Just until a better suspect arises" which is bullshit, its what mafia do when they know they are lynching a town. They want to look like they weren't the ones gungho for the lynch at all, and therefore can't be held accountable. The only reason you wouldn't want to be held accountable in mafia is if you have something to hide, which I believe is evidenced by this post. On June 17 2011 07:08 syllogism wrote: I won't be around for the deadline, so I'll rather leave my vote on ILJ than the random lurker. If ILJ doesn't show up before the deadline, you should get more suspicious. If we do have to go with a lurker lynch, sticking with grassgiraffe currently makes most sense. The voting was so heavily stacked against ILJ, if you are going AFK the only logical thing to do would be to switch your vote to the possible last minute switch that people were considering (ILJ was OBVIOUSLY green) I mean this could just be poor logic on his part. I am not going to quote every single post of his, but these two posts do a good job of sampling 90% of his posts. On June 15 2011 03:17 syllogism wrote: The only plan the town needs is everyone contributing, relentless analysis and focus on the most suspicious players. As noted, this is a standard game, the mason mechanic aside, so there's no way to break the game. This is literally just repeating word for word something I said a few posts earlier. He is contributing NOTHING while posting some shit other people said. That combined with the earlier tell I would of been happy to Day 1 him easily. On June 16 2011 03:23 syllogism wrote: You just did what he accused of, again. This is the only thing he said to ILJ, it didn't even explain what he was referring to and I read that post and the one he is referring to which can be found here so hes just trying to contribute to everyone thinking ILJ is scummy, when he was not. You have to prove your points and argue against someone, making blanket statements while ILJ is already taking on half the players in arguments about why he is/isn't scummy and all that does is needlessly throw more weight onto ILJ's back. On June 17 2011 01:48 syllogism wrote: RebirthOfLeGenD stealth [placeholder] voted Kenpachi and I can't blame him; that is to say obviously assign some blame for stealth voting, but not the target. His contributions so far + Show Spoiler + On June 15 2011 05:59 Kenpachi wrote: hi im Kenpachi i slept all day yesterday so thats the reason why i was mia (surprise!) btw, im a townie On June 16 2011 10:13 Kenpachi wrote: There is nothing to talk about for me really.. I cant say much except that Sinani has been a total hypocrite. Other than that, i just cant put a finger on w/e is going on right now On June 16 2011 22:49 Kenpachi wrote: kk. Time to get my shit on. /game face ... ill get my shit on later. ##Vote:Sinani206 Seems to be the only one suspicious You can do better than this Meanwhile, we've about 9 hours until lynch and 11 people haven't voted yet In addition, 5 people haven't even posted today. GGQ has been around today at least, but hasn't graced this thread with his presence. At the pace things are going, we won't have much material to work on tomorrow unless we somehow hit the jackpot with the lynch or night actions. This is his only largish post really. It is once again just echoing other players. My conclusion here is that syllogism is scum. He has one major scum tell early on day 1, then proceeds to never actually say anything of substance while sheeping a bad lynch. | ||
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That's the same shit you could see with ILJ, no one was really fighting for him and he was getting sucker punched and sheeped the whole day. Any other candidates that were brought up were just spammed away. So apply that to this situation. We are about 24 hours into Day 2, there are 7 votes on me, and the only other vote not on me is the person I am voting for. Hint: I am not scum. Anyone going along with this is an idiot. I decided to wait a while before pointing this out just to emphasize just how much the thread has died. In the last 8 hours, there has been like 3 posts not by me. If you want an explanation for what I was doing, then ask specific questions and I will answer it, but honestly it will be a waste of time. | ||
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On June 19 2011 10:21 Mataza wrote: Huh, odd. At the start I assumed your strategy was for you to draw a hit since you are veteran or already have a Doctor at hand to protect you. But isn´t this behavior rather selfish? Lie to get Doctor protection *and* be avoided by mafia hits. On the other hand there is LAL for a reason. If you lie too often, people stop believing you, even if you tell the truth. For you 2 questions:
Bonus question: Youngminii already told us he is masoned to RoL. If you really have only 3 masons, why did you find the time to post BS in the thread, but not PM anything serious with one of your 3 PM buddies? 1. I was bored and thought it would be funny and I wanted kenpachi dead. 2. I was going to help either way, I just hoped that would give some incentive to kill kenpachi. +1 who says I haven't been talking to my PM contacts? Youngminii is the only person I haven'tbeen actively talking to and that's because he won't get on skype. | ||
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On June 20 2011 04:28 Varpulis wrote: I'm still really unsure about syllogism. I've read through his posts 3 times, and I can't confidently say mafia or town. I'm leaving my vote on Hiro, at least for the time being. I suggest that we consolidate our votes to three possible lynches, to avoid letting scum hide behind outlier votes.
Is that list OK with people? Everybody should pick one, and vote for them, providing reasons as to why they are picking that person over the other two. Protest voting a lurker or somebody in no danger of being lynched is not going to accomplish anything. Seriously, why am I even on this list? | ||
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On June 20 2011 05:16 hiro protagonist wrote: Seriously, why is it when I vote for an inactive, its scummy, but when BC or node does it, they get no flack? No matter what I do, its scummy. RoL: what changed your mind about me? ##vote syllogism I agree that the vote should be between me and syllogism. Both act scummy, one of us is probably scum. should give us good info with the votes. I'm fine with the other being viged like BC said. I am tired of defending myself, vote for who you think is more scummy. peace. I never actually had an opinion about you. | ||
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On June 20 2011 06:07 syllogism wrote: With the way the voting is progressing and the justifications people are using for voting me over hiro, I'm comfortable voting Hiro, not that the current situation leaves me other alternatives. I do not, however, think I should be vigied if Hiro gets lynched tonight instead of me and does not flip red. It should be discussed at the very least and that should only be the course of action if it is determined a lynch would otherwise be wasted on me. If we lynch green we should vigi the other one. If we vigi red we probably shouldn't vigi the other. | ||
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On June 20 2011 06:53 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I never actually had an opinion about you. | ||
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On June 20 2011 08:21 Node wrote: I like how aidnai can say something like "if RoL was scum, someone would be there defending him" while defending him and convince people that he's innocent. Sorry, but I don't buy it, and I find it ludicrous that he's able to dodge a lynch like this. So, that's where my vote's going. No one defended me or said ANYTHING for the first 24 hours of the day. Stop making stupid arguments. I made sure to wait that long before starting to defend myself just so that when people made your exact counter argument, I can show that no one defended me for the first 24 hours where I was 6-7 votes up. I know you aren't stupid enough to actually believe what you are saying, so that leaves the next question of why are you saying this? If there is a mad hatter, I would without a doubt suggest you as a target. | ||
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