TL Mafia XLII - Page 2

On June 14 2011 13:05 hiro protagonist wrote:
Yeah, lets not put all our eggs in one basket. Lets not do any plans like this. I am sure anyone with a brain can see why this is a god awful plan.

On June 14 2011 13:10 hiro protagonist wrote:
EBWOP: I know its night time, and thats when we talk about blue roles, but lets not focus all of our energy into "what should blues do, and mansion me plz!!!" come day, lets focus on getting to know one another.

On June 14 2011 13:22 hiro protagonist wrote:
hell, even if you are town, Mafia is simply gonna spam you with PMs claiming there DTs and messing with you. There are so many ways this could go wrong...

Its night fucking Zero! Do not claim. No plans. That is all.

On June 17 2011 06:28 hiro protagonist wrote:
yeah, thing is Mig, BC is calling out those lurkers to post. It worked too. So step it up guys if you want to play.

As for the lynch targets, sinani, and ILJ still look suspicious to me. ILJ more so, because his slip into lurker mode. I want to see him scum hunt, cus right now the only contribution I see from him is defending himself. However, I wont vote for him because he is under the gun, We have ample opportunity to see if he slips up, or scum tells.

One person that is really flying under the radar is Impervious. So far all his post have had little substance, and smell sightly of scum.

As for the lurkers, One stands out and thats grassgiraffe. The others have yet to post much but grass last post SCREAMS out "I made my vote, and I'm out". I know, because that sounds exactly like some of the lurkers in SNMMII. They would simply come in once or twice during the day and say,"yep, I agree with so and so, vote: name here". I am 90% sure he is town, and 100% sure we dont need him. come prove me wrong grass.

##Vote: grassgiraffe

On May 17 2011 12:23 hiro protagonist wrote:
Ok, here are my thoughts so far,

the first two people I gonna talk about are the ones i have the most read on/talked the most o far:

VisceraEyes: He was the most active in the first few pages, with most of his post wanting simply for all active players to say hi. Also mentioning not to take suspicions of one another as a bad thing. I can agree with this line of logic, as it will foster a more friendly town, and get in on the scum hunting. His FoS of Mataza looks more like a call for discussion then an actual accusation. my worry is that he is almost TOO town, and is a likely prime hit for Mafia, unless of course he IS Mafia.

Mataza: considered the most suspicious as of right now, and with good reasoning. His first post was one of feinting a cop role. and Has been very Defensive initially when VisceraEye ask a question. Then he points the finger right back at VisceraEyes. after that he claims that he "just wanted to see how you would react". However he made a good post about how he wants to talk about what everyone else thinks, and his post are in the vein of scumhunting (when his not busy defending himself). not sure what to think of him tbh.

Next up GiygaS, nord, Palmar,:

These 3 have the most posts with the least amount of Analysis. most likely town wanting to hang low or wait and see before going into to much discussion. GiygaS has done the most in getting discussion going, expesialy around what VisceraEye and Mataza have been saying. not alot to go on.

prplhz: quite at first but then a solid post with good analysis.

Deepblue, Steff, Karshe: still need to here more from them. deepblue has gotten in pretty late with just a one liner. gonna watch to see if he is gonna just slide under the modkill, as there are still some inactives, and is laying low(as in acting scummy)

thats it for now.

On May 18 2011 09:05 hiro protagonist wrote:
Ok, LOTS to go on here, gonna give my take on things:

The General feeling for the first day started like this: the town began giving intro post that most had no content. the exception to this is of course Mataza, who kinda claimed Cop, and then retracted it.( I still do not like is explanation). the first three people to really get the ball rolling where ViscaraEyes, GiygaS, and Mataza. Of the three, I liked VisEyes approach the most, and Mataza's the least. but these 3 started talking, there still talking, and its leading somewhere. the way I feel about it is the longer they talk, the long one will slip up, and for me that does not make them A high priority lynch.

Is one of them Mafia? man it sure looks like it.

the next list of people include me: Hiro, Karshe, Palmar, Prplhz, and nard. Of this group, Prplhz and Karshe have had the most helpful post in my eyes. Palmar and nard mostly made some general post about the situation. Im leaving me out because thats a job for someone else.

Where does this leave me? I starting to look at inactives to vote for. but which one?

The only one I feel right now that would be an ok vote would be Skrammen, and heres why. the only post by Skrammen is one of agreeing with Mataza, apparently for no reason, ether he is a terrible Maffia, or a terrible townie.

Mataza, I want to believe your town, but the way you go about playing just rubs me a bit. I LOVE that you are taking swings at people, but as soon as some one wants to have a disscusion, you ether turn your finger on them, or call them a Bandwaggoner. I also dont like that almost every defense you say "I just wanted to see how you would react." that might be true, but it leaves me with no read on you...

what would we get if we voted Skrammen? if he flips town, we got a good reason to trust Mataza. If he flips scum, well, Mataza has some explaining to do...

will decide in a bit, to give more inactives time to post

On May 18 2011 09:48 hiro protagonist wrote:
gonna stay with my line of logic, and vote skrammen. I cant believe more people are not on him given his VERY little content, and insta bandwagon vote.

Best case scenario: town votes GiygaS, and he flips scum. We got reason to trust one another and the hunt is in full swing.

worst case: GiygaS flips green, and we have lots of suspicions. Very good chance of Mafia breaking up trust and getting us to turn on one another.

good no mater what: voting Skrammen. we get ride of a terrible player, and we get a possible read on Mataza. I chose this one.

Eather way, Im happy with day one.

##Vote: Skrammen

On June 16 2011 14:47 Mig wrote:
Thoughts

aidnai - aidnai posted in n0 that medics should ignore what BC said and protect the people on the zodiac list. Mafia then proceeded to blue snipe with 2 of their shots and shoot kita, someone unlikely to get medic protection on the Z list. Obviously this isn't even close to hard evidence but people should remember that aidnai pushed for a plan that was what the mafia either wanted or took advantage of n0. Besides that though I don't really have any problem with his posts, and he is active enough that I think he would be a bad day 1 lynch.

ilj - I am suspicious of. I played with him last game where he was scum. He seems a lot more outspoken right now in defending himself than he did then. But he said repeatedly at the end of the game how bad he played etc. I am sure he planned on changing his meta for the next time he was scum. So I find it very suspicious when he tells youngminii don't try to meta me because I may just be trying to play differently. If he is trying to play differently it is much much more likely that he would be trying to adjust his scum play and not his town play. Still though he has been decently active and outspoken in defending himself so he is not my preferred lynch for day1.

sinani - my preferred day 1 lynch. I played with sinani when he was scum in XXXIX. One of the main things sinani did that game was try to look like he was contributing without actually helping at all. He posted a list on inactives without commenting on it and he posted an extremely half-assed and nonsensical analysis of his thoughts on all the current players. He is doing the exact same thing here. He has posted several times criticizing other people's thoughts and telling various people to step up and start scum hunting without actually doing a single thing to contribute himself. His play to me seems consistent with his scum play in XXXIX

So I am voting sinani.

Brief thoughts on a couple other players

Sandroba - bad plan day 1 but I am not suspicious of him. It is more likely for townies to introduce large/risky plans at the start of the game than it is for mafia since it draws a lot of attention and scrutiny to the player. Also just feels to me like he had town's best interests in mind but didn't completely think through the possible risks.

node/impervious/ggq - I know all 3 of these players can contribute actively and be very pro town. The game is still early but people should keep their eyes on them if they don't become more active.