Also palmar sometimes people just get warnings for doing things like that, especially if kurumi did it without knowing it was against the rules. So we can't auto assume he will be modkilled for it. It will be up to the host's discretion.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 04 2011 21:53 GMT

#1830

I doubt bum can be much help considering he is almost certainly scum lol.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 05 2011 09:35 GMT

#1892

On June 05 2011 14:48 bumatlarge wrote:
Great, so get off my ass for getting roleblocked you silly townies.

lol bum the problem is that you claimed roleblock for being unable to shoot sinani. Yet we know that roleblocking wouldn't prevent you from shooting if you were actually an SK.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 05 2011 19:51 GMT

#1916

Yea that would be fine with me also red. Vigs shouldn't shoot bum we can lynch him today incase he is bulletproof.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 05 2011 20:11 GMT

#1919

When is the day post?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 05 2011 21:33 GMT

#1945

kill bum now please.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 05 2011 21:39 GMT

#1952

gmarsh why didn't you kill Kurumi?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 05 2011 22:19 GMT

#1975

WTF palmar wasnt it obvious that chaos had a tracker role since he was the only person to talk to red and red knew about tdl visiting GM. Why would you kill him.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 05 2011 22:35 GMT

#1989

Yea clearly we need to kill bum tonight he has proven to A) lie to us and B) he is a confirmed not town. But hm who did bum shoot tonight. All the kills are accounted for.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 05 2011 22:40 GMT

#1993

sinani wtf even if you trust him he has been proven to be completely incompetent with his shooting. He acts like shooting a mole was a good play by him when he shot someone who thought they were town. Then he killed an obviously power town role.

I believe palmar is probably town just because I can't imagine the mafia shooting their mole but I think it is clear he has no clue who he should be shooting.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 05 2011 22:52 GMT

#2002

On June 06 2011 07:47 Jackal58 wrote:
Depends on how Mataza flips.

I see it as a distinct possibility.

Scum shooting a mole or bussing another scum for town cred is not out of the ordinary

Bussing isn't out of the ordinary but shooting their mole night 1 certainly would be. If they wanted to buy palmar town cred would be much much better for them to just shoot whichever one of them has a weak role power.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 05 2011 22:59 GMT

#2005

Yea I mean it is possible but bussing someone is a lot different than killing the mole when the mole is so incredibly valuable late game for the mafia. So not 100% palmar is town but I am like 85% sure of it. Btw here is kita's post on his reads before he died.
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 05 2011 07:19 kitaman27 wrote:
Here are my current reads. I'll post again about the best way to assign the night shots a bit later.

Palmar

Shot varp day one. I would be shocked if mafia didn't use his kp on him tonight. A good target for medics and watchers. I'm slightly concerned he might shoot a town if his list from earlier was serious though.

#Fistpound Palmer

sinani206

Assuming his role claim is true, I don't see him being mafia. He has an incredibly powerful role, but I wish he hadn't claimed.

Karshe

Needs to post more.

Amber[light]

Town, I guess? It would be incredibly easy to play scum with this role. I would assume he would be dt checked by someone.

redFF

Aggressively posting. Shows motivation to help town.

stefftastiq

Just a gut read, I guess. Nothing to back this up.

DropBear

Starts strong on day one, but has dropped off since. He defended sandroba day one, which I like since it was a dumb bandwagon.

chaos13

He has a larger investment in this game than I'm used to. I haven't seen his style as scum, which makes me less confidant of my read, but I'm leaning town.

Cthsazsa

Mostly town motivated posts.

tnkted

He is either scum or playing a real bad town game. He has made little effort to contribute because he claims to be immortal. At this point, I think he has lost the luxury to keep his power private and eventually should be forced to claim.

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GMarshal

Shows little indication that he wants town to win this game. Playing incredibly safe. Inducts Palmer to his kill circle, rather than someone he suspects as scum.

Rean

Hardcore lurker. Previous games as town he becomes rather defensive when accusations are made against him, while this game he ignores them. His aggressiveness has taken a serious hit this game.

Jackal58

Jackal has a distinctive aggressive town style. I haven't seen it this game. He has been either neutered or is scum.

Torte de Lini

Pretty useless so far. Strongly playing the newb card.

Mataza

I'm having a really hard time deciding between inexperienced player or obvious scum. Most of his posts I disagree with, but I'm not confidant a scum would ever post like this.

bumatlarge

Red or SK. Either way, I'd like to see him dead.

Kurumi

It is pretty likely he is the SK. He claims to intend to want to help town. I would be much more willing to trust him over bum. Wouldn't mind if he cut down his post frequency a bit though.

Null Reads:
Kenpachi
Mig
Meapak_Ziphh
Barundar

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 05 2011 23:13 GMT

#2007

Steff you get a random action pmd to you every night right. So what did you see?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 05 2011 23:59 GMT

#2016

So who was rbd by torte last night? Meapak said that tld's power would likely role block a bunch of people.

I have to think there was a reason behind the meapak kill from the mafia. Either he was right about some mafia not claiming they were roleblocked and they didn't want it revealed or more likely tld is mafia and they didn't want meapak to tell the townies how to avoid his roleblocking power. So I am not 100% sure tld is mafia but his posting has been useless/if he is red it confirms GM as town/ and there could have been motivation to kill meapak to keep tld's role secret. Eh overall it isn't the strongest case, I definitely wouldn't say tld is 100% mafia but I would consider voting to lynch him if we can't find someone better after bum.

Other than that red I think your list is pretty decent. But I am still pretty uncertain about a lot of people. The only people I feel confident in being town are red, palmar, cthsazsa, steff.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 06 2011 00:02 GMT

#2017

Oh and sinani he seems 100% town.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 06 2011 00:03 GMT

#2018

Could you fully roleclaim palmar? Exact wording please.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 06 2011 00:10 GMT

#2023

Red why do you think tdl is 100% scum. Meapak confirmed he can't pick who he visits at night. So how can you be so sure he is scum?

Bum straight up lied to us either about his role or about being roleblocked n1 and he is confirmed not town. He is the most obvious lynch of all time.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 06 2011 00:15 GMT

#2025

Ok palmar I trust you.

#Fistpound: Palmar

But I would really ask that you confirm with town before you shoot someone. I would be willing to risk a bus, considering we haven't seen mafia use that power yet, to help prevent anymore townies being shot.

I mean personally I don't think the mafia can bus. Since no one has said they created a bus role I would assume that then the mafia would have had to have the bus role + the bus role creator on their side. And we haven't seen the power in action yet. So I think it is a small risk for us to take.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

June 06 2011 00:16 GMT

#2026

Either kurumi and GM are working together or kurumi is invincible and we will have to lynch him to kill him. But I am like 95% sure he is a SK and he has no more shots left. So personally I think kurumi should be low priority for us right now.