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On May 21 2011 09:18 Radfield wrote:
Reading that analysis of KillerSOS makes me think he just terrible, and not scum at all. However, I've certainly played with players on my scum-team who posted like that.
I think we should shoot Killer, and vote normally. We get very little info from a KillerSOS vote, regardless of flip. We get all sorts of info from a Incog/Node vote no matter what.
I can certainly see why you'd say that. One of the biggest reasons I think he's scum is his response to pressure: he either fires back briefly at the accuser, or he just vanishes. The former may be terrible town play, but I can't see a townie simply disappearing as calls for his lynch rise.
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On May 21 2011 09:24 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2011 09:18 Radfield wrote:
Reading that analysis of KillerSOS makes me think he just terrible, and not scum at all. However, I've certainly played with players on my scum-team who posted like that.
I think we should shoot Killer, and vote normally. We get very little info from a KillerSOS vote, regardless of flip. We get all sorts of info from a Incog/Node vote no matter what. You are contradicting yourself. If you believe the Incog/Node flip would give more information than a Killer flip, why shoot Killer first? Wouldn't it be better the other way around?
I think he means the vote lists from an Incog/Node lynch would be more telling than vote lists from a KillerSOS lynch.
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On May 21 2011 09:44 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2011 09:41 KillerSOS wrote:On May 21 2011 09:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2011 09:33 KillerSOS wrote:
Managed to get through the last 2 pages on my horrible phone internet... If you want to lynch me it's a waste, but feel free.
I'm PYP Tracker
Results of your action last night? Ace visited Radfield. Ace said so himself though. Whoa, that sounds like BS though......
PYP Tracker gives very concrete and unique information. I'm pretty sure we can work out a plan to confirm this role quickly.
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EBWOP: confirm or anti-confirm (what's the word for that? i dont even know)
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On May 21 2011 10:06 KillerSOS wrote:
Checked Ace since he was near the bottom and had a high probability of being vanilla.
did you completely miss the several times Ace said he had a gun
+ tracking a vanilla town does nothing, and we didn't exactly try to deny mafia, so it's likely that any low mafia also have roles.
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On May 21 2011 10:42 Incognito wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2011 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2011 10:37 Incognito wrote:
Shooting into the list is not 2/5. Its only 2/5 if Chezinu is town. If Chezinu is mafia, its 1/5, which is worse than randomly shooting into the entire player list. Considering that you're already lynching me, its ridiculous to be shooting Node too. Wake up and stop sheeping Ace/Foolishness/Caller. Incog are you claiming mafia? If you are town you should be want more shots going into that group not less. Why is it foolish to shoot node even if we're lynching you? You should know you're town and want to hurt the mafia as much as possible. False. I don't trust the list check. I think someone was framed.
isn't that a direct contradiction to saying "it's 2/5 if chezinu is town"
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ON counting this as a win would be like counting this as a win >
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On May 21 2011 11:53 Radfield wrote:
On Incognito: Incognito is town. There are no two ways about it. I've thought about this some more, and theres just no way he's scum. Looking back on Day 1, Incog was sitting with about 5 votes, decon with 3 and Barundar had just gotten 2 after my case against him. The idea that Incog would try to save himself by building a case against Kavdragon, a player with zero votes, is ludicrous. I had given him a clear route to attack Barundar(he even agreed with my analysis at the time) and a concerted effort against Decon would probably have more success. The idea that he would go and pick a random townie with zero votes to build a case on is seriously stupid.... unless of course he was town, and actually thought that.
This is false, by the way. When Incog began building his case on Kavdragon, Caller had already made a couple posts against Kav and voted for Kav.
As for Node, I trust his Inventor claim. The breadcrumbing looks pretty solid, especially the post Wiggles pointed out. Whether he's town or not - I'm undecided. But what matters is that now that we know Node is the new Inventor, we know who to hold responsible for the inventions. Inventor is a pretty transparent role, as has been stated many times. Let's get some inventing going once this lynch is done.
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On May 21 2011 12:34 Ace wrote:
hmmmm something fishy is going on in that voting thread. Just like yesterday with the last minute wagon on Kav, now everyone is "convinced" KillerSOS is the right lynch over Incognito. I don't like this at all.
yeah because the people who think Incognito is town have been the most active in the last couple hours... it's as simple as that, I think.
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Also, as of right now, KillerSOS has surpassed Incognito for lynch lead, 11-10, unless my arithmetic sucks.
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For me, this is simple. I think Incognito is scum despite any martyrdom he's done in the last 24 hours; there are too many contradictions in his play. I want to see Node and KillerSOS prove/carry out their roles.
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Conclusion: I can't count.
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On May 21 2011 13:13 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2011 13:10 Ace wrote:
I've actually got a theory depending on what KillerSOS flips. Pretty sure some of the Scum team got nailed today. Jesus, get out of my head.
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the more you know
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no thats not fucking politician, since the nuke was launched straight at chez
thats a daytime bus driver -_-
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dammit if I had just asked Ver "is there any way to avoid being nuked" instead of "is there any way to block a nuke"
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that is the shadiest subtlety i've ever seen in a role, jesus christ
well done ver, now this is insane
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I propose the following: Whoever is King tomorrow, as soon as humanly possible, lynch Incognito, or Chezinu if he is dead. If anyone disagrees with this, feel free to say why.
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Fishball, Ace, are you guys by any chance very suspicious of a player who's been generally viewed as a townie?
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