• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 15:40
CET 21:40
KST 05:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT6Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up0ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0224LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)44Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker15
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? StarCraft 1 & 2 Added to Xbox Game Pass
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) WardiTV Team League Season 10 PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea Ladder maps - how we can make blizz update them? TvZ is the most complete match up Brood War inspired Terran vs Zerg cinematic – feed Which units you wish saw more use in the game?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Corso Formazione Insegnanti Yoga Nintendo Switch Thread What Game makes you happy and stress free? Diablo 2 thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013 2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Search For Meaning in Vi…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2283 users

Pick Your Power Insane! - Page 4

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 21 2011 04:34 GMT
#1318
##Does a bus-drive from night last throughout the day as well?
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 21 2011 04:34 GMT
#1320
Actually never mind, it says at any point in the game.
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 22 2011 02:36 GMT
#1401
One. Two. Three.
Hey, look at me!
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 22 2011 18:49 GMT
#1482
Night 2's over, sorry I was gone yesterday, I went fishing. :p Tnkted is the busdriver, or who else did you check last night, Ace? Reds better watch out, unless it's a town player, then don't claim it.

Random
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I'm very interested in seeing the results of the police radio, do we have any ETA on that?

As for the lynch, I'm sticking by what I said earlier that someone on the Kav lynch was likely to be framed. (Probably incog). That said, I don't think we should lynch Caller just to "clear the list". I'm sure there are much better targets for today, than Caller.

Also, Ace, Radfield being alive still isn't suspicious unless mafia have a role-blocker. After 2 nights, no one has claimed to be RB'ed, so I'm doubting they have one. This means mafia have no way to kill him besides through lynching. So, if Radfield is town, mafia will push to lynch him.
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 22 2011 19:17 GMT
#1488
@Wiggles: It is suspicious when taken in the right context. The other top picks have died so far, and neither Caller nor Radfield have been touched right? Then explain to me why. Also I didn't check anyone last night as I shot Incognito.


Like I said, no Role-Blocker. Scum can't kill Radfield with KP unless they have a role-blocker, or a role which goes through bullet-proof, most of which involve various forms of dying or suicide. After Night 1 there were no claims of anyone being role-blocked. So, unless scum were just trying to hide it in case a bullet proof townie showed up, they most likely don't have one. That said, there haven't been any suicide bombers or zombies, or anything like that yet, meaning that scum haven't had any other opportunities to kill Radfield that we know of. Beyond that, the argument is complete WIFOM.

As for Caller, as has been stated, he was purposefully left alive where two others on the Kav list where shot dead. So now, if the list is correct, there's GM and Caller, one of whom is scum. GM doesn't seem to be scum at the moment, as it makes no sense to make a list and then clear it so that you'll sacrifice yourself, whereas you could have "checked" the other list and strung town along for much longer. So, that leaves Caller. I've already made known my belief that someone on the Kav vote-list was likely to have been framed, so that's part of my reasoning for it. The rest becomes WIFOM however, much like your argument against caller, so it is mostly useless to delve into it.

I think we should wait for the police radio transmission as well, as someone may have checked Caller, or others, and we can compare that to the vote lists that GM has provided. There is a decent chance that the list will bea ble to help us narrow down our suspects, at the very least.

Ver, when do you plan on releasing the Police Radio report?
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 22 2011 19:27 GMT
#1491
On May 23 2011 04:21 Ace wrote:
...

If the Scum don't have a Roleblocker and didn't know Radfield was BP then why wasn't he hit? Get it now?

Either they already knew he was BP or he's Scum with an alibi for not getting hit while all the other top picks except Caller did get hit.



Uhhhh....

Scamp and FW, the top two on the list were shot night 1.

On night 2, in major part thanks to you, it was publicly known that Radfield was BP. So, why would they shoot a BP townie on Night 2 and waste half their KP just to check he's BP?

They shot the very top of the list night 1 (So not Radfield), after that they knew he was BP.

So where's the inconsistency?
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 22 2011 19:36 GMT
#1501
On May 18 2011 15:52 Ver wrote:
Day 1 final vote Tally


INCOGNITO (5): Ace, infinitestory, Foolishness, Chaoser, Barundar



On May 21 2011 13:09 Ver wrote:
killersos: 10
flamewheel
meapak
kurumi
deconduo
radfield
eiii
incognito
mr. wiggles
tnkted
kitaman


KillerSOS is to be lynched


So, between these two lists, we have 3 unique scum, as there's literally no cross-over.
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 22 2011 19:42 GMT
#1507
On May 23 2011 04:36 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 04:27 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On May 23 2011 04:21 Ace wrote:
...

If the Scum don't have a Roleblocker and didn't know Radfield was BP then why wasn't he hit? Get it now?

Either they already knew he was BP or he's Scum with an alibi for not getting hit while all the other top picks except Caller did get hit.



Uhhhh....

Scamp and FW, the top two on the list were shot night 1.

On night 2, in major part thanks to you, it was publicly known that Radfield was BP. So, why would they shoot a BP townie on Night 2 and waste half their KP just to check he's BP?

They shot the very top of the list night 1 (So not Radfield), after that they knew he was BP.

So where's the inconsistency?


And Node was killed Night 2 along with Barundar
Flamewheel got a nuke bussed on to him

What don't you understand here? There was a concentrated effort to eliminate the top of the list. Radfield wasn't shot NIGHT 1, before he was revealed to be Bullet proof. Are you misreading on purpose here?



I'm not sure what you're arguing here, could you clarify?

Draft Order Results:
1. Flamewheel <--- Shot Night 1
2. Scamp <--- Shot Night 1
3. Caller
4. Barundar
5. Radfield


They shot the two top slots on night 1, which makes sense. Can you explain why mafia would randomly shoot at Radfield when there was a claimed Chuiu Jack, and likely inventor in the two top slots? After Night 1, Radfield was known to be bullet-proof.
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 22 2011 19:43 GMT
#1508
On May 23 2011 04:41 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 04:39 kitaman27 wrote:
Bum lied about his watcher claim.

OR watcher doesn't count as a detective for the purposes of the radio.

Do Watcher and (doesn't really matter) Tracker count as Detective roles for the purposes of Police Radio?


Besides this, Bum already said he lied about being Watcher.

And also I will have to confess, I am not really the watcher the radio will show that, but I can explain if you want me to. Otherwise, I'd rather keep my real role a secret.
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 22 2011 21:47 GMT
#1537
You appear to DTs as any role of your choice just like a normal godfather (you cannot change the role that you appear as after you PM to me). You are effectively immune to any kind of rolechecks and general detective actions, including the modern detective type of rolecheck. You are also immune to votechecks. However, a mafia caller godfather will show up as red to alignment-only checks. In addition, after Day 3, you may pm me the name of one person, and if they are not being protected by a medic, martyr, or thrown in jail they are inducted into mafia! (only 1 recruitment attempt possible). The new mafia member is inducted at the start of day 4 if the conversion is successful. If a townie picks this role, the conversion acts as an expensive alignment check that follows normal DT rules.


Barundar couldn't have been the alignment check. It says the conversion, which works as an alignment check, is a night 3 ability. Meaning, we have an alignment DT.
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 23 2011 06:17 GMT
#1558
Ok, so things we can discuss:

What to do with GM's vote-list check
Who is are good candidates for role-checks
Who are good candidates for alignment checks
If anyone needs to be shot

I'll start:

For Gm's vote list check, I'm going to look back and see if there are any lists that can be cross-referenced to currently existing ones to help narrow down candidates. Barring that, I think GM's list might be useful to use on the tnkted vote today, to verify two things. One, the presence of any GF, and two, the presence of any framers. We have a nice advantage, in that we know the scum numbers this game, and after day 3, moles will officially count as mafia, so the only other factor we need to worry about is the traitor. When we check the list, it should give us total visible scum numbers. If the number falls short of 4, then there is a GF, if it is larger than 4, then there is a traitor and/or framer. If the number is four, that doesn't tell us much though, as there are multiple possibilities for this, such as GF+framer, GF+traitor, or no traitor/GF/framer. Again, this is only barring that there isn't a list we can use to cross-check with the currently existing ones, and if we want to take a risk of no info. GM could also check one of the one person votes, and it would effectively become a DT check too.

Candidates for role-checks for me descending in order of importance are:

Foolishness
Chaoser
Eiii

Candidates for alignment checks for me with emphasis on the top 3 are:

Ace
Radfield
Caller
Kitaman27

I'm not sure if we have any shots left, but if there are:

Eiii
Kitaman27
Chaoser

Are all lurkers that can be shot. (With vig discretion)

There's some of my thoughts quickly, feel free to add or make changes, we need to get talking again.

Also, if there's anything particular, or some piece of analysis you want to discuss, now would be a good time to bring it up, when it won't be lost amidst the thread and we can go through stuff carefully.
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 23 2011 06:32 GMT
#1559
Looking at the view-count of the thread, it's been opened 9 times since I posted. I KNOW YOU'RE HERE, why aren't you posting? :p
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 23 2011 19:03 GMT
#1571
Question:

Nigh 1: Why not protect Inventor?
Night 2: Why not protect Inventor?
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 23 2011 23:03 GMT
#1590
He could be Ackbar as well.

Admiral Akbar

Can suicide and kill someone and all medics protecting them and everyone who has made an action on them that cycle. You may use your ability day or night!


I don't think it will kill the parity cop though, just the kingmaker. Cycle resets in the morning right?
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 24 2011 07:47 GMT
#1641
Mafia XII Godfather

You are the Godfather of the Mafia. You lead the Mafia by example and have a number of abilities which assist your minions in bringing Liquiville to it's knees. You have the ability to cover a player, changing their role and alignment to anything you want. You can choose to appear as a role of your choice (including vanilla townie) to any and all types of detective-esque actions. You are immune to votechecks.


Just realized role-cops aren't fool-proof.
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 24 2011 20:52 GMT
#1659
Look where we are. At our present state. This is where we're heading.
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 25 2011 01:52 GMT
#1667
If you're going to kill me, tell me, I don't trust you all to decipher my clues :p

Look At This
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 25 2011 04:47 GMT
#1698
+ Show Spoiler +

Well, GG, Comrades! You may have lost Comrade Wiggles, but do not fear for glorious victory awaits us with swift return to Motherland! May have you strength of great Russian bear in your fight against dirty American capitalists!
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 29 2011 04:11 GMT
#1988
Good job town, too bad no one tried to reveal my hidden breadcrumbs. :p

On May 22 2011 11:36 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
One. Two. Three.
Hey, look at me!


On May 25 2011 10:52 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
If you're going to kill me, tell me, I don't trust you all to decipher my clues :p

Look At This


On May 25 2011 05:52 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Look where we are. At our present state. This is where we're heading.


On May 19 2011 13:15 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Or they have copycat and have inventor now

Night 1 is over at least, and we can start discussing more again. Foolishness, you gonna continue talking? :p Green or not, I enjoy when people talk more, gives us more to work with.


On May 23 2011 03:49 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Night 2's over, sorry I was gone yesterday, I went fishing. :p Tnkted is the busdriver, or who else did you check last night, Ace? Reds better watch out, unless it's a town player, then don't claim it.


Should've just claimed, but I like clues and wanted to have fun. :p

you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 29 2011 04:17 GMT
#1996
Also, if anyone were curious, as NKVD agent, I decided to show up as methman because I thought mafia might try to take a role-checker. :p
you gotta dance
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 20m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 308
elazer 191
IndyStarCraft 170
UpATreeSC 147
ForJumy 49
MindelVK 22
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 17162
Sea 2547
Shuttle 471
Aegong 36
NaDa 13
Purpose 10
Dota 2
Dendi593
League of Legends
C9.Mang0129
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps2811
edward105
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu498
Other Games
Grubby3252
FrodaN2374
Beastyqt672
shahzam587
ArmadaUGS153
Trikslyr92
KnowMe55
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 27
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Shameless 15
• Reevou 8
• Kozan
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki33
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV427
League of Legends
• TFBlade1162
Other Games
• imaqtpie1293
• Shiphtur395
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
4h 20m
Replay Cast
12h 20m
WardiTV Winter Champion…
15h 20m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 12h
Maru vs Bunny
Classic vs SHIN
The PondCast
1d 13h
KCM Race Survival
1d 13h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 15h
OSC
1d 15h
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Clem vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Epic.LAN
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Epic.LAN
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-League Week 31
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026: China & Korea Invitational
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
WardiTV Winter 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.