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Why? 1. flamewheel is always townie. It's a rule. 2. I don't know you that well and it's easier to kill strangers 3. Your the only one giving me attention, which I have been begging for. thanks. 4. Cause it's funny. | ||
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Mini-mafia 2 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=105463 Mini-mafia 3 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=110026 | ||
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On May 18 2011 02:56 Ace wrote: I don't know if you're on LSD and just reading whats not there but not once did I suggest playing passive, "sitting back" or "relaxing". I said we've got too much finger pointing and no new information is going to come out of all of that. I also didn't say we should rely on blues to win the game for us because - guess what - I was the one who started beating that into everyone's heads around here years ago. Wouldn't it be silly for me to say that now? But thats just more of you digging a hole for yourself. Keep talking. It's the last day you'll have the chance to. On May 14 2011 12:35 Ace wrote: *nods in agreement with bum's post* I'm not doing any work though. I feel like relaxing this game. You kind of did suggest it if you someone infers that you follow your feelings. On May 14 2011 12:43 chaoser wrote: you feel like relaxing every game ace | ||
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On May 18 2011 07:02 bumatlarge wrote: Woah chez I read those games again, you have to PM me to tell me how to properly play like your mad right this instance. Whos got the good role foolishness? who are we killing that isnt useless. People lynch useful people and its like "oh why you do that he so townie" and then we lynch nobodies and its like "oh why him obvious townie" Screw it all chaoser is scum. Im leaving my vote on and if you want to lynch scum you'll help me. He's not posting like hes blue because its PYPInsane; you dont get to be able to have that excuse. He's scum. I'd love to analyze him but all his scummy posts are discussing what he can do with his scumbuddies to win the game in one night. You need to invite me to your treehouse first. | ||
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On May 18 2011 07:13 bumatlarge wrote: + Show Spoiler + Back to business, Chez you really think node is scum? It had to be minecraft.. you know me too well.. I'm not really that suspicious of Node -- I just lack any other candidate. The only read I have right now is that flamewheel is townie because he prides himself that he has never been mafia and therefore would never be mafia unless he is on a smurf account. | ||
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alrighty! I love scamp too much to vote for him..I'll switch my vote last second to him if I know he will live. | ||
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On May 18 2011 09:15 flamewheel wrote: Ah, TL Mafia games sure do ramp up in the last few hours of the day. I'll be commenting after dinner. Just a quick question though... Hey Ace, if Kavdragon is lynched who are you going to shoot instead? Let's make sure not to overlap now, eh? That's exactly why I wait 24 hours first for 48 hour days. | ||
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On May 18 2011 09:53 Fishball wrote: I'm rarely super pro-town either; I've evolved. See beyond the Town and Mafia. You will see new horizons. It's called the Brown Horizon.. Welcome.. | ||
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On May 19 2011 09:52 chaoser wrote: It's pronounced chow-ser. Like Bowser but not. Or you can be like fucking RoL and call me chaos-er. Putting that aside, why don't we make an x-ray machine or something that can be used in conjunction with a vote-check/alignment check that gets rid of covers and such. lol, I'm like RoL | ||
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If I have a lover out there... tonight I hope to finally meet you, so we can discuss the rest of the game together!  I R Scared... Can I hide behind somebodies right now? Maybe someone will invite me to their treehouse... Maybe someone will be my martyr... If only we lynched a true hero... may the medics save me.. or the priest raise me.. | ||
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B Kareful Tis coud be da koodward! | ||
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On May 19 2011 15:51 Scamp wrote: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Shortest game I've ever played. Good luck town. It might not be o,v,e,r... There could be a P=r-i(es)t a[m[on-g u's | ||
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Hello everyone, A miracle has occurred. The great voice of Ver has spoken to me. “Spam no longer or your sanity will be far worse than it is now.” Immediately after these words were spoken, my mind became clear and my sanity restored! My attitude and approach to the world has changed. No longer do I strive to amuse my personal desire for laughter over the expense of distracting others. My focus now as I read the thread looks not for humor or jokes, but on veiled secrets of darkness that hide behind deceiving texts. I started to scum hunt like a no other. I dove into the texts of the past and searched in the dwellings of the shadows where perniciousness skulks. There, yes there, I found what I was looking for. A lurker with a nefarious agenda eating the decaying remains of a monkey. Foolishness:+ Show Spoiler + On May 16 2011 09:01 Foolishness wrote: These plans for the top 5-8 players to pick roles is retarded in it's current form. If flamewheel/Caller/whoever don't agree to take their designated role (assuming we have a consensus on what roles they should take) we need to lynch them, no questions asked. What's to stop Scamp for all of a sudden posting "hey guys, I'm going to take Hero or Assassin (or whatever role he might want) sorry"? Are you just going to shift down the important role list even further? Yawn. Waste of time. People are going to pick whatever they want to pick. I'm not opposed to general guidelines, such as town should focus on DT related roles or survival roles, whatever, but assigning roles to the top 5 players is just silly. If you are going to go that route, we should have everyone claim as soon as the picks are out. Either everyone should claim or no one should claim (that includes assigning roles before the picks). Nothing in between. On May 16 2011 09:57 Foolishness wrote: WAIT! I FIGURED IT OUT! You're going to pick the editor and as soon as game starts you're going to edit all your posts out! That way mafia can't see what roles people took, but you will still know! Brilliant! On May 17 2011 04:36 Foolishness wrote: Are we really going to try to base a plan around rigging the votes and getting a votecheck? What happened to "let's treat this as a normal game until someone claims"? On May 17 2011 04:48 Foolishness wrote: Yeah easy. I played a mini mafia game with him. He was a medic. He was very outspoken and fairly aggressive. One of his firsts post in the game: + Show Spoiler + On May 14 2011 13:30 Incognito wrote: List of invisible posters: GMarshal Kitaman27 tnkted Bum's post is on spot. Fortunately, I already mapped out some stuff. PYP Insane Game Plan The optimal picking strategy revolves around this cute little role: This role obsoletes the PYP1 and PYP3 role picking strategies. The mere existence of the thief on the role list means that it would be seriously harmful for mafia to know where the good roles are. Of course, it’s a no brainer that the good roles are in the beginning part of the list. So my only advice is that if you’re in the beginning of the list, seriously consider picking a role such as NRA member or Meth Man to deter the mafia from hitting/stealing roles from the top of the list. Due to the fact that the mafia can coordinate numbers with each other while the town can’t, it is very likely that mafia will get a spot within the top 3. As shown by the past PYP games, mafia has gotten the first or second spot in all 3 games. Which means town will likely have to be on the defensive, as it is hard to guarantee that we can effectively deny mafia the thief role. The amount of potential KP in this game is huge. This means that there is a huge potential for the game to end quickly. The basic town strategy should be to avoid KP roles, while going heavy on investigative and defensive roles to try to prolong the game. Tier I Roles Mafia 2 Detective + Vote Rigger Inventor Chuiu Jack Modern Detective Role Cop Bullet Bill PYP3 Veteran Doctor Bulletproof Mafia 2 Detective combined with the Vote Rigger is a combo that allows us to break up the town into chunks and analyze with greater ease. The formula is simple. The Vote Rigger rigs the Day 1 Vote into 4 roughly equal blocks with 7, 6, 6, and 5 voters each. All the lurkers/suspicious people are piled onto one list, and the Modern Detective uses his vote check to check one vote block each day, starting with the lurkers. Town then proceeds to analyze the split lists, allowing for more focused analyses. The rest of the investigative roles are used to sort through the lists, while the defensive roles prolong the game and squeeze the mafia. The Mafia will want these roles Kingmaker + Politician Thief Caller Godfather Roleblocker Janitor JailKeeper Puppeteer Hero PYP3 Veteran NRA Member CPR Doctor The best mafia combo pick is Kingmaker + Politician. This effectively gives mafia an unlimited anonymous unblockable dayvig power, capable of sniping off all the top town players. Caller Godfather is also an obvious mafia role. As anyone who’s read Caller’s Mafia V knows, Godfather recruiting high level townies with good roles is a town’s worst nightmare. Denying this role is iffy, as a mafia thief has plenty of time to try to find the role and steal it before it can actually be of use. Jailkeeper, roleblocker, and NRA member are powerful roles for the mafia that prevent investigations, and potentially save mafia from NKs. Hero and PYP 3 veteran cause town pain when mafia slip out of lynches and snipe off a townie. Lastly, puppeteer is surprisingly useful for a good mafia arguer, as it allows them to anonymously mislead town and cause tons of chaos in the thread. However, the most critical roles that we need to deny are the Thief, Politician, Jailkeeper, and Roleblocker. Due to the threat of a mafia thief, we can’t discuss precise strategy here, but townies should strongly consider picking one of these 4 roles. By the way KillerSOS is mafia. Also Node is mafia. That's kinda what I expect out of Incognito (although this post is a bit passive for my taste). In the mini game he made a lot of posts like this. This game the rest of his posts are mostly one liners. Particularly, he got really quiet after the draft order and picking. He's clearly got something to hide that he doesn't want the town to know about. Either he got some great role and wants to hide with it, or more simply he's mafia. No plans for vote rigging or checking. Let's scum hunt. On May 17 2011 05:14 Foolishness wrote: Incognito is third to last on the draft order, no way he got one of those two roles. And as someone already pointed out, the obscene amount of number collisions on the bottom half of the draft give way to the idea that most mafia are probably in the top half. Someone said this is a wifom argument, which I have to strongly disagree with. In a game like this with imba roles and a near unlimited amount of imba combo's, would mafia really pick the same numbers so as to possibly construct a wifom argument in the late game to save them from getting lynched? Heck no. If this was a normal PYP game I could potentially see the merit in this, but not in this game. If the mafia spread out and get a lot of members in the top 5 or slots (which very well may be the case this game) they could easily grab some imba combo a win in 2 or 3 days. It's pointless for us to sit here and speculate what kind of imba combo's the mafia might have, but we should definitely assume that 1) there are very many of them and 2) they probably have one. On May 17 2011 05:22 Foolishness wrote: EBWOP: Should say "If the mafia spread out and get a lot of members in the top 5 slots....they could easily grab some imba combo AND win in 2 or 3 days". On May 18 2011 06:49 Foolishness wrote: Seems to me deconduo is an obvious green (or village idiot). Either way I don't see what we gain out of killing him other than getting rid of a potential nobody. I'd rather take a chance of getting rid of a mafia with a potentially good role than shooting useless greens. On May 18 2011 11:44 Foolishness wrote: Weren't Kavdragon and chaoser having an argument about 24 hours ago? I seem to remember the two of them taking up ~3 pages of posts. On May 18 2011 14:01 Foolishness wrote: voting barundar to try to save Kav On May 19 2011 09:21 Foolishness wrote: I would put $100 on there not being any vote checks tonight. I'd also put $500 on Inventor not inventing a vote check kit or a bullet proof vest. On May 19 2011 12:05 Foolishness wrote: I'm bored of listening to lazy plans of how blue roles are going to win us the game while people like Radfield slowly get others (scamp, deconduo) to claim their role in the thread. I almost feel like we should all just mass claim at this point to at least try to coordinate our blues instead of just hoping they do what we want while mafia probe people in the thread to figure out who to kill. At the end of the day yesterday, I just thought Incognito had a bad case of Pyrrhuloxitis and wasn't really mafia, since to me some of his arguments against Kav were lol. So I didn't change my vote off of him until the end, but I lost track of time because I was watching proleague. Shit happens. Now I'm not sure what to think anymore. At the very least, Incog's attitude does not help the town in the current situation so I will still be voting him unless new information surfaces. And frankly, I doubt anything new will come up. If the vote checker checks some list (as planned) would you have them claim the results even if they aren't damning? We all know mafia spread out votes as much as possible, so they will probably get a 1/5 people are mafia in one of the lists. Well big freaking deal since we got a 1/5 chance of randomly killing a mafia with a lynch anyways. I fail to see how vote checking is going to get us anywhere tomorrow. This game has lots of good players, mafia aren't going to be stupid and lose because of a vote check. If nobody else is going to try to do some normal, mafia analysis, we might as well just throw in the towel now. These vote checks which are going to return 1/5 are mafia aren't going to help anything until day 4 when we get a bunch more vote checks to properly nab the mafia. Game will probably be close to over by then. Ace, you are the one who said we didn't have much to talk about, and already had the max (or close to max) amount of information we could possibly get from day 1 prodding. I don't even expect you to still be reading this post. But if you want to sit around with your gun and let people like Radfield and Incognito mess up the town that's your deal. I got better things to do. On May 19 2011 12:41 Foolishness wrote: This is why I want you dead. If I came across like I didn't care about the game then my bad, but you're the one who hurt the town yesterday with your bandwagon on Kav. You're the one that needs to prove that you are useful to the town alive rather than dead (and before you say I'm useless this is about you, not me). Repeatedly telling everyone "don't worry guys...vote checks and blues gonna win this for us" is not proving yourself useful; I don't care what nice role you may have picked up in the draft. On May 19 2011 13:57 Foolishness wrote: We're probably better off just waiting until tomorrow and seeing if another invention comes up. If the copycat is in the town's hands, he can just make a name that's really pro town (e.g. vote check kit) to let us know. On May 19 2011 13:43 Foolishness wrote: if copycat is in the mafia hands, as everyone expects, they aren't going to claim On May 19 2011 13:57 Foolishness wrote: We're probably better off just waiting until tomorrow and seeing if another invention comes up. If the copycat is in the town's hands, he can just make a name that's really pro town (e.g. vote check kit) to let us know. On May 19 2011 14:19 Foolishness wrote: We could make it even more obvious then "vote check kit for finding mafia only". Or something. You raise a valid point but I think the copycat should remain hidden if they are town. If mafia can't get KP to go through they probably won't be able to survive long. If inventor fell into mafia's hands they will be inventing things that would only help them (i.e. here's a gun you must shoot or something). Of course your argument still applies here as well. I don't know. On May 16 2011 07:51 deconduo wrote: After what happened in PYP3, I don't think I'd risk traitor. I wonder what happens if a mole picks traitor lol. | ||
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##Nuke Incognito PS: I'm not the bomberman.. | ||
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"Be Strong, Be a Martyr, Be Brown." As the nukes fall from the sky and the Post-apocalyptic California becomes a reality. This is War.... War never changes... Fire falls down... Fire falls down! The Beast within is scorched. The fire shall purify me...Nothing shall hinder me now... Nothing... I no longer have conflicts within my soul. For death is imminent. I can now speak without repercussions. My town, forgive me. I disappoint not only myself but the town as a whole. What have I done? What can I claim that benefits the town? The Truth... I may be a hero of the past but in the present I'm nothing but a clueless player.. An illusion of greatness... Winning is deceptive.. For it is fleeting.. One moment, your on top of the mountain, the next your in the valley. Does it matter what greatness you've witness on the peaks when you are blinded in the darkness of the valley? Maybe so..maybe so.. For that is where one can gain his strength back. In hope that one day, through the sacrifice of a martyr he might one day stand on the peak. But what martyr can one hope in to be willing to give up his life to save another? Especially to save someone like me who is crazy and unrepairable by all means of psychiatric help.. How would they know if I would behave well on the mountain top? How would they know that I wouldn't abuse the opportunity given to me? If I were to be saved... I would need to be changed myself.. For my evil desires will lure me into insanity once again.. There must be a way to kill the evil within, is fire the answer? Will the fire consume the evilness within me and burn it into a crisp. Will this fire birth in me a new desire? A desire that will spread out of me and consume those around me? That they too will be free from there wickedness? Brown Forever, Forever Brown. What can stop this cycle of brownness? A hero is needed, A martyr who is stronger than brown itself, a priest willing to resurrect him whom sacrificed himself. For the hero, the martyr, and the priest shall unit together to form an unstoppable town force that will use fire to burn the impurities from brown earth. For brown is always slaking because it is always dearth. | ||
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Teleport your country in front of mine! jump on the nuke and stear it like a cowboy into the ocean! Do something! what to do..what to do!! I wish I had some information to share with you town. All I can say is that I really think Flamewheel is innocent and incog should die for his actions. Oh and I bet dreamflower has bombs on people, just saying.. I'm not the bomberman.. if any secondary explosions go off, it is not my fault! + Show Spoiler + #ackbar incog! | ||
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