EPTI still think HardCorey is the best lynch here.
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I still think HardCorey is the best lynch here. | ||
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Ideal town environment so mafia has to get involved. Most likely newbie mafias won't want/know what to do, so. Hopefully Corey will get lynched today. And it's okay to mislynch day 1. Most day 1s don't end up with a mafia lynch anyways. | ||
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Corey, on the other hand, is either lurking or not caring about the game. Both are detrimental to town, mafia or not. Since Enervate actually replied, albeit scummy replies, I have a feeling we will get a stronger read on him later on in the game. That being said, I encourage EVERYONE to post something useful to town. We can't have mafia blending in the background and 2-3 really active townies (jaminz/me/free). Mafia will just pick us off and town's inactivity will lead them to defeat. Let's start setting up an ideal town environment now so it doesn't screw us over later on. Don't let inactivity beat us. Does the night end at 1 AM EST? (Roughly 14:00 KST) | ||
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and you're right vyro, I probably got a little carried away in my analysis. But this is how the game should be played. We're all relatively new; just because inactives don't put in the effort to try and be better at the game does not mean people who are trying (ie, me) are going to drop the regular scum reads because of their relative newness. And the key difference between you and some other inactives' behavior and HardCorey's behavior is that he just disappeared. That means he's really being detrimental to town if we ever do get into a LYLO/MYLO situation and we have to second guess. He's not beneficial to town in any way possible and it's not a bad idea to get rid of him with all the inactives running rampant. This ties in with the reason I don't want to vote for Enervate. He actually replies, so we can get a stronger read on him as the game goes on. If you have a better argument for someone else, by all means post your analysis. I recommend, however, that you don't sheep someone and state your reasoning on voting for x person. | ||
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Each to his own, I guess. I'm sticking with HardCorey. | ||
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Don't get too taken aback by this guys. Blue roles don't win games, effective discussion and lynching win games. Blues being sniped/mislynched kill town morale, but an active town > blue roles. Remember, blues should only supplement town's analysis and lynches. Extremely disappointed at HardCorey's play though. sigh. | ||
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Medic should use his power at his own discretion. Discussing during the night is generally frowned upon, unless it is analysis (I think Ver does this). Feel free to discuss whatever, I'm going to hit the bed. Sooo tired. Let's hope we catch scum on our next lynch. | ||
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Good night, guys! | ||
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Does night end at 11 PM EST? | ||
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I think it's a good 24 hour discussion period; others don't think it's that great. It's completely opinion based. | ||
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I'm going to school right now (spring break's over). I'll probably drop by a library to make a case against Sirael, Enervatw, and vyro after school | ||
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I'm 100% going to a library tomorrow (closed today, fml) to do some analysis. I hope no one gave up yet =/ Stay active! Bait people to talk and all that. FoS on Enervate and Sirael right now. Enervate for his rather poor, scummy defense and Sirael for hardcore lurking. | ||
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This is from my previous post. 7. Enervate + Show Spoiler [Old analysis] + On April 25 2011 02:13 Enervate wrote: If I was mafia, wouldn't I be trying to defend myself more and vote for other people? In my opinion, mafia members have more motive to participate actively and try to vote people who aren't mafia members. I mean, mafia members must have realized by now that not writing huge long posts makes you look suspicious. ##Vote jaminz Mafia members would know I'm not a mafia member and try to vote me. Seems like 3 people have voted me so far. Hmmmmm. Incredibly weak and scummy defense after prodding him for inactivity. Basically putting out possibilities that people voting for him might be mafia, just because. No logic, nothing. On April 25 2011 05:14 Enervate wrote: When I said I was about to edit my post, I didn't mean I was trying to change what I had wrote, I meant I wanted to add the second sentence I posted next, because not double-posting is a habit I've had from posting outside of this thread. But here's my analysis: I am pretty sure Fez the Caliph is not mafia because he unvoted me. If he was mafia, he would have left his vote on me because it wouldn't look suspicious since other people are still voting for me. If we were both mafia, he wouldn't have voted for me in the first place. So, 3 out of 9 people (myself and Fez excluded), could possibly be mafia. aScle is suspicious to me because he goes from not posting much to jumping on the vote on me. I'm a convenient scapegoat. Jamin'z reply to my vote against him is interesting. If he was an innocent townie, he might accuse me of being mafia for voting him. But instead he tells me how I can get his vote off of me. Maybe because he knows I'm not mafia. And the only way he could know is if he was mafia. Rising Phoenix's post is also suspicious to me because he says he takes time to make thoughtful posts but also says he's too lazy to count the votes. And here's some good faith, I'll try and tally the votes. Phelix Equlibria - 1 Enervate -4 ascle -1 jaminz -2 hardcorey-1 (This actually took me a really long time lol. It's kinda hard with all of the unvotes. I think it's accurate, though.) Trying to contribute without actually contributing. They wasn't an ounce of analysis in his posts, just some opinions here and there. Add to the fact that he's vote tallying like everyone else is, trying to seem like he's contributing. On April 25 2011 07:18 Enervate wrote: Ok I guess I will follow the trend of voting for inactives as well. ##Unvote ##Vote HardCorey Sheeping, plain and simple. Try to explain your reasoning. Is it a pressure vote? Did you like the case against that certain person? Sheeping is generally frowned upon here and is considered anti-town(not necessarily scummy) behavior. + Show Spoiler [New Analysis] + On April 24 2011 05:18 Enervate wrote: Ok I'm checking this thread now. I don't have that much time to check this thread on the weekends. I usually check during class. Don't vote for me. This screams template for his future behavior (lurking, etc.) He doesn't even make any substantial posts AT ALL after he states this. You would think a town would want to clear himself after you almost got lynched, but this is basically the image Enervate is trying to feed town (inactive, busy). On April 25 2011 02:13 Enervate wrote: If I was mafia, wouldn't I be trying to defend myself more and vote for other people? In my opinion, mafia members have more motive to participate actively and try to vote people who aren't mafia members. I mean, mafia members must have realized by now that not writing huge long posts makes you look suspicious. ##Vote jaminz Mafia members would know I'm not a mafia member and try to vote me. Seems like 3 people have voted me so far. Hmmmmm. He's actually contradicting himself here. Take his words, "vote for other people?" Guess who he voted? A townie. jaminz, just to try and get the town's attention away from him. A bunch of useless logic trying to dictate town how mafia would act. Why would town care how mafia would act? We're all newbies, we don't have a strict sense of someone's mafia meta here. And out of the "3 people" that voted him, he votes jaminz, the one who is pressuring him the most and probably (number of games wise) the most experienced. Very suspicious On April 27 2011 01:28 Enervate wrote: Ok I thought we weren't supposed to post in this thread during the 24hr night. Interesting turn of events. Right now, I get the feeling vyro might be mafia. He made his response to Jaminz's death really quickly, and tried to explain how the mafia could be framing him before anyone even accused him. This all coming from a player that says he is really inexperienced. I also think Rising_Phoenix might be mafia. I'm least likely to be killed by the mafia since everyone thinks I'm mafia. And they want me to get lynched. No one has tried to defend me yet or even divert suspicion from me, so I think that should suggest to you I don't have ties with any other players right now, like mafia would. More thoughts to come in about 4 hours. First paragraph basically says "Okay, here's another excuse that I'm lurking hardcore and now I'm trying to pass it off as my lack of comprehension. Let me accuse other people without making any analysis and point fingers so you guys try to get your attention off of me." And newbies tend to respond quickly to any pressure on them, so your argument of "coming from a player that is really inexperienced" does not work. If anything, this would brand him as a newbie townie since mafia wouldn't carelessly reply on a whim. Second paragraph repeats the same thing he did in the first paragraph. His last line is golden. He promises to post more thoughts in "4 hours" but never does. He obviously wants to get by town's lynch by contributing the least possible amount. If he isn't scum (99% he is) I don't know what guides he's been reading. This is some uncharacteristically poor town play in that case, even for a newbie. Verdict - Scum | ||
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This guy is scum. Lynch him. ##Vote: Enervate | ||
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The logic was that you should be able to point out mafia simply by analyzing posts. Think about this game. We're not learning how to depend on cop to try to scumhunt, we're trying to hone our analyzing and discernment skills in order to improve. That's why I was pressuring EVERYONE to be active, or at least post regularly. In that case, the most suspicious player will arise from DT/Cop's judgement. Obviously failed due to rampant inactivity, even up to now. Even the most active/experienced mafia will slip if he posts too much, therefore we can point out inactive mafia much easier with cop's power. If the said active mafia goes inactive, lurks, and makes dodgy posts... well, there's your lynch. This is why I said check an inactive. Also, the iTouch thing is in case someone like free asks me to do analysis. I'm taking time out of my personal life to go to a library to make longer posts and analysis to benefit town. It's just to clarify that I can't make long posts/analysis etc. Don't read too much into it. | ||
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2 mislynches already. Sighh. And don't quit mafia enervate! Come back whenever you have time  | ||
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But this inactivity is really pissing me off.. I thought we'd have people to, you know, try and actually play and improve. Looks like this would have been the ideal situation. And Sirael didn't even vote(?) Fuck. At 4:3, every vote counts. How are we going to ensure a mafia vote if people just sheep and someone doesn't even vote? GG town, I'm done making useless analysis posts. I'm just going to vote on gut feeling starting day 3. | ||
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2. Rising_Phoenix 3. HardCorey 4. FezTheCaliph 5. Sirael 6. Freestalker 7. Enervate 8. Conversion 9. Jaminz 10. vyro 11. aScle | ||
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HardCorey lynched Night 1 jaminz shot Day 2 Enervate Lynched Night 2 Sirael modkilled, Vyro shot. Total casualties: 5 6 people remain, 3 are mafia. Looks like GG town. =/ | ||
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