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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 15 2011 16:00 GMT
#37
im still in Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia I but that is due to end just before/after Mafia XXXVIII so can i join? if so /IN
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 20 2011 02:57 GMT
#50
On April 18 2011 13:05 sandroba wrote:
/in
I'm currently playing in the mini mafia, but I would like to join this aswell if possible.


No your not^^

Also mini mafia ended so i'm ready to go!
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 21 2011 10:03 GMT
#59
On April 21 2011 15:22 sandroba wrote:
Didn't LSB get shot by vig already in mafia xxxviii? What about trackster, is he busy?


Well zorkmid is still too in mafia xxviii and i didn't see anyone vote for him jet
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 15:30:12
April 24 2011 15:17 GMT
#85
On April 24 2011 22:57 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 22:35 Impervious wrote:
Are the agents/Agent/Analyst flipped?

Yes.

Game will be postponed until tomorrow if another player isn't found by 6pm EST


Edit: Never mind, Welcome my fellow dutchman
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 25 2011 02:41 GMT
#121
On April 25 2011 11:38 Jackal58 wrote:
Well Gman. Since it appears that only you and I are playing and I know what I am huge fos on you.
In other words I'm going to bed.


Hey, i'm still here too. Am going to bed now BECAUSE ITS 5 AM HERE

btw, maby dt's should double check if they get that not info sufficient thingy if they have enough time and the player looks trusted. oh well, we'll see how it plays out. Goodnight!
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 25 2011 11:32 GMT
#142
On April 25 2011 16:10 darmousseh wrote:
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On April 25 2011 15:33 sandroba wrote:
EBWOP: I also agree that pointing out vigilantes is not a blue tell, but neither is the post he quoted, which is basically the same thing. If he thinks that what vain did is a blue tell he wouldn't do it if he was blue. He would only do it if he wants to appear to be blue.



I did it because it's the biggest blue tell in the world.


"Hey guys, let's dt check someone, don't mind me". It's just bad play, that's it. I have no FoS on him, i'm just saying that if he is dt, then we are screwed because mafia would probably pick that up faster than I did.

For this very reason, I recommend a dt checks vein because if he isn't the dt, then he's probably scum with the whole "don't mind me" phrase.



Uh, i only stated they should maybe check twice because there is a big chance(25%) they come out wrongly. Now why would i point that out if i was a dt? that reasoning makes not sence at all.

For now we should obviously get the inactives posting a bit so we have actually something to analyze. Here is a list of post done by people as of the start of the day till now.

1. Jackal58: 4
2. Ace: 4
3. sandroba 3
4. GGQ 3
5. darmousseh 3
6. Vain 2
7. Mr. Wiggles 2
8. Impervious 2
9. tnkted 1
10. GMarshal 1

Not posted jet: Zorkmid, why, Tackster, Kenpachi, Eiii, Rean,

Note: List is made from high to low posts. Other than that the persons are in no particular order. This list only represents the posting activity not the quality of the post themselves
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 25 2011 12:57 GMT
#150
On April 25 2011 21:46 Jackal58 wrote:
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On April 25 2011 21:41 sandroba wrote:
I think this discussion about breadcrumbs is not productive at all, specially if you reveal your strategy before you put it in practice. Doing what you are suggesting is going to make scumhunting more difficult imo. Also I don't think that's the way mafia is going to identify each other, as there are several other more obvious ways I can think of.

Please share.


Well for instance the cell leader could hint them who is who. It is stated in the first post that the cell leader is allowed to breadcrumb. He can also send that pm at dusk and down so in theory he could give some direction to who to vote for to lynch at dawn and also who to hit at dusk.
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 25 2011 13:33 GMT
#156
On April 25 2011 22:06 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 21:57 Vain wrote:
On April 25 2011 21:46 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 25 2011 21:41 sandroba wrote:
I think this discussion about breadcrumbs is not productive at all, specially if you reveal your strategy before you put it in practice. Doing what you are suggesting is going to make scumhunting more difficult imo. Also I don't think that's the way mafia is going to identify each other, as there are several other more obvious ways I can think of.

Please share.


Well for instance the cell leader could hint them who is who. It is stated in the first post that the cell leader is allowed to breadcrumb. He can also send that pm at dusk and down so in theory he could give some direction to who to vote for to lynch at dawn and also who to hit at dusk.


He isn't allowed to use player names, period, so thats going to be difficult to say the least. Yes the cell leader can hint at who is who but he has five words or 20 characters to do it in, its going to be a bitch to inform 1/3 of the players in this game about each others identity without being able to send out names. Assume it takes him one PM to reveal one player ,which makes sense as he can't just say it so he'd have to say something like "DT in Surprisingly Normal Mafia" to reveal a player assuming 5 members that means its going to take him 2 and a half days to inform everyone, (this is assuming any PMs are sent out to the whole group, if they are sent to individuals its even harder).

If they want to be efficient they have to find a way to post it in the thread, and thats what this plan sets out to hinder.


Oh, never mind that. I assumed the pm's were send out to every scum player but the first post states otherwise. Well in my opinion this will clutter the debate a bit but if it works we could have a very good edge on the mafia. So i suggest we will follow this plan.
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 25 2011 13:47 GMT
#165
On April 25 2011 22:38 Impervious wrote:
Guys, this talk about breadcrumbing is nice and all, but I don't see it going much further at the moment. We should probably wait a while before bringing this up, so we can catch a slip up. Especially if they are trying to hide their posting in the thread.

I think we should talk about the pros and cons of of double-checking anyone who gets the result of "insufficient analysis", to make it easier on the DT.

The pros of double checking are that you are more sure of the result. The cons are that you could be checking someone else instead, therefore checking more people. I really think the cons outweigh the pros in this case.

Thoughts?


Well it depends on the case. if you suspect someone heavily of breadcrumbing and get "insufficient analysis" there is a great chance of him being the cell leader. if you checked someone who hasn't posted that much the dt should maybe check again as it could be a blue. If i was a DT i would only double check in very extreme cases. Mind that the Cell leader will post a bit to breadcrumb.
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 25 2011 18:13 GMT
#203
On April 26 2011 02:16 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2011 02:13 Zorkmid wrote:
On April 26 2011 00:51 Ace wrote:
That will become clear soon, I'm just waiting for more lists.

Rean, why, Kenpachi, Zorkmid, Vain, darmousseh, and GGQ still have to post their lists.


Ok, read through the whole thread, no idea what list it is that I have to post...


Imagine for a second you are the cell leader, who would you message and what would you tell them in that message? Pick 3 people ( assume in this imaginary world that anyone you choose to message is automatically a member of the mafia) .

I think I can guess as to why Ace wants this, but we'll see, just play along with and post it.


Ok, my list would be Ace, tnkted, GMarshal. Why? Because i've all seen this names before one way or another in the mafia forums. They have some experience playing it so if i give out the information to them would be the best choice. The post would be something like: Mafia codeword:very. Even pages

The codeword could be something else i guess. but it boils down to that.
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 27 2011 01:32 GMT
#321
Hmm, doubting between Darmousseh and Zorkmid. Don't really get that blue tell don't mind me post and zorkmid has been posting waaay less than last game where he was town. This could also be an indication of blue so ill leave it at that.


##Vote: Darmousseh

Sleep well and late happy birthday Wiggles
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
May 01 2011 13:10 GMT
#598
Omg, i just got back from a weekend without internet. I'm so sorry guys and will sit out my ban(that's what happens right?). Well good luck town
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