TL Mafia XXXVIII

On March 31 2011 03:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
this normal enough

why not

./in

On April 06 2011 19:50 Tackster wrote:
/in /in /in

God i hope i make it!

I no longer have exams so put me in plzzzz

On April 08 2011 11:44 CubEdIn wrote:
/out

Need a break. Sorry. I know you guys will find a replacement.

On April 09 2011 07:29 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Just posting so coag can get a town read on me.

On April 09 2011 10:26 aidnai wrote:
I agree with DrH about night talking. If you talk at night, there's nothing town can do about it until day, only mafia has the power at night.

On April 10 2011 09:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

no i just think its amusing that hes basically apologizing for inactivity when the game hasnt started

On April 10 2011 10:06 urashimakt wrote:

So I can see why he says "scum slip", even if it's just a night 0 joke.

On April 11 2011 03:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
GMarshal are you going to lynch kavdragon/mib if you're elected? PLease do

On April 11 2011 03:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
th emayor should not consider what the town thinks or wants. nevermind im not gonna vote for you

On April 11 2011 05:28 redFF wrote:
I see no reason for any mayor or pardoner to ever reveal the 2 bodyguards. Ever.

On April 11 2011 08:25 urashimakt wrote:
Is there any merit to handpicking someone who hasn't proclaimed their candidacy, but has received pro-town reads from most people?

On April 11 2011 10:22 redFF wrote:


Well i didn't say it was a scum bandwagon,you said that, just a bandwagon. and that is what i mean, there are sheep right now.

On April 11 2011 08:42 redFF wrote:


Oh yeah that just happened

throwing it out there right now
I THINK GMARSHALL IS SCUM, as well as a number of his voters including M0nsterChef, Kevconsim and Original name, although everyone in my first gmarshall vote count post is officially fos by me

On April 11 2011 14:00 Protactinium wrote:
please elect me or I will die. I will do anything and say anything to get elected because frankly if I dont get elected I auto lose.

On April 12 2011 05:16 aidnai wrote:
Gmarshal: 9
DoctorHelvetica
Lanaia
Robellicose
Coagulation
OriginalName
Mig
AirbladeOrange
M0nsterChef
kevconsim
darmousseh
Kenpachi
Serejai

Current voters for Gmarhsal. How do you attract all the lurkers and noobs GM? it's like magic...

Seriously, serejai, AO, kev, need to post more.

On April 12 2011 07:16 tnkted wrote:
GM I was ok with your earlier ideas but your later ones are extremely scummy.
1. Lynching the pardoner? Are you serious? You backed off it quickly but I don't know how you could ever possibly think that removing half of the town's 'safe from night kill' roles would ever be a good idea.
2. Posting a list of what the blues should be doing? Extremely stupid, tells the mafia who they should avoid. Lists like that are only useful when we're dealing with a crowd half this size. If you were mafia that list would help you by getting all of the blues to focus their powers in one area, which you can easily avoid. Anyone you leave off the list is guarrenteed to be killable!
3. Calling vig hits on pandain? He's probably a blue that was stupid enough to announce himself in front of everybody, hes done nothing but lurk since then. Anybody in this thread with half a brain is aware of his role now, why could you possibly want to kill him? If you were mafia calling a vig hit on pandain would be the smartest thing you could do, since he would be saving you a hit at night.

I'm not saying you're town, but the conspiracy theorist part of my brain is going nuts with thoughts about how you and protract are mafia, and protract is getting bussed to get you into the mayors position.

TLDR; GMs ideas are horrible and I can't support his campaign. I withdraw my candidacy, my vote right now is more important than providing a valuable alternative.

I can't believe I'm typing this. ##vote DrH


Also everybody, about Serejai: I play SC2 with him sometimes and I am/was part of the TL minecraft server, and Serejai is the biggest troll I've ever seen. He was fucking with you. I don't know what hes doing this game but hes hard to read. As he posts more I'll be happy to translate into english for you. :D

On April 12 2011 09:33 Conversion wrote:
Well, I'll be frank. I don't like DocH. He comes off right off the bat as an asshole that was acting aggressively to draw responses, as some of you have stated (kav in particular) in your posts.

However, I am not going to let something so trivial deter my vote. He also taught me something, albeit small, most of you attempting to help have not by pointing out that my defense was not very town-like. I'm very confident that, after reading Doc's posts, DocH is green.

Though I disagree with his first lynch (kav), I feel like a more experienced townie in a mayor position would be more beneficial. I have not been able to read his past games- and no one answered my questions- so I'll take the word from a few of you that DocH actually does have an aggressive town meta in a few of his games.

With that said,
##vote DoctorHelvetica

From: DoctorHelvetica [ 10745 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: hey bro im sorry
Date: 10/25/10 13:48
i wasnt trying to be a dick to you to be rude but because its my strategy to get people riled up since i'm mafia in that game

don't take it personally. i remember my first game i played with really experienced played like ace and everyone came off as such a douche, it's just the nature of the game

no hard feelings :3

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From: DoctorHelvetica [ 10745 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: hey bro im sorry
Date: 10/25/10 13:48
i wasnt trying to be a dick to you to be rude but because its my strategy to get people riled up since i'm mafia in that game

don't take it personally. i remember my first game i played with really experienced played like ace and everyone came off as such a douche, it's just the nature of the game

no hard feelings :3

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Time Cycle:
This game will follow a 24 hour night/48 hour day cycle. In case I am not able to post around deadline, any votes after the 48 hour mark will not count and the game will be put on halt until the night post is up. Currently the deadline is MIDNIGHT, US East Time, but that is subject to change.

On April 12 2011 12:59 urashimakt wrote:
As mentioned a bit ago, I'm switching my vote back to Prot now that he's here.

##Unvote DrH
##Vote Prot

On April 12 2011 13:20 Kenpachi wrote:

im against voting Protact cause 1. He has KP
2. Assassins will kill him instead of a townie.
3. A KP disperses from the game entirely
4. The Endgame is easier.

On April 12 2011 13:25 chaoser wrote:


Everyone's so damn scared of this shit. If prot never came out we'd be in the same situation of assassins shooting into the crowd. What's the difference with him in office? We get to use his powers, assassins will still be shooting into the crowd. His positives outweigh his negatives. By far in my opinion.

On April 12 2011 13:58 Kavdragon wrote:


Unvote: GMarshal
Vote: Dr.Helvetica

I do this because I know that I don't have the time or the skill to argue with Dr.H.

He's really good with words. Don't let him out of this one, town. Lynch him tomorrow.

On April 12 2011 14:44 chaoser wrote:


I didn't hide anything. I said I would vote Prot. You can see that I was slowly getting more and more suspicious of GM as the day went on. His play style is considerably different from what I know of him. It's not like it's a complete change either, it's just slight changes that are more what mafia would do. I'm not sure yet if he is or not but he's on my FoS screen for sure. I changed because I was less suspicious of DrH when compared to GM. Also I knew that Prot would have wanted me to vote DrH anyway cause he feels the exact same way about GM as I do. ON should have been lynched. GM switching to AirBladeOrange in case he got mayor sends off all kinds of scum bells. I'm going to do a PbP of ON soon and I hope to see him lynched tomorrow.

On April 12 2011 14:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:


I'm actually glad I didn't second guess myself. I was wrong but I've spent my entire "scumhunting" career never sticking to my guns and this kind of confidence is going to make me dangerous when I tighten my analysis up, I think.

Since I know I'm town I'm incredibly wary of anyone who goes out of their way to defame me. That is kind of the lynchpin of why I dislike Barundar's posting in this game. I sort of use it as a jjumping point, because I know the mafia want me out of this game.

On April 13 2011 12:57 kevconsim wrote:


Well earlier he said that he thought i was scum and i have said nothing since then and now he doesnt think im scum...

Thats dumb

On April 13 2011 17:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

he has nothing to gain from this as assassin

i thought about it. if you are assassin and we lynch you and he hits kitaman27 (or whoever he thinks is the next assassin) he's pretty much guaranteed to be killed that same night. if there are 3 assassins this would result in a TIE

the only way this makes sense is if there are two assassins. if protact was assassin he would know that and lynching you is a way to get you killed without letting you take him down as well. That way he can win his game and he is transported out immediately.

On April 13 2011 17:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

If your plan is to claim vig i'm not impressed

because that won't actually prove shit

and that's the only role that can do anything like "prove" itself unless you're about to make some insane calleresque claim

On April 13 2011 17:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
If anyone thinks I'm full of it right now (because scum is so desperate to get coagulation lynched am i right????)

I used this bait just earlier



If bumatlarge claimed veteran I hoped to nail him for it. But he didn't which secured my trust in him quite a bit.

On April 13 2011 17:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

It's a collective decision this time. If you were in my position you'd make the same choice, you don't just write off a DT check claim on day 2.

On April 13 2011 17:35 ilovejonn wrote:

Are you saying you're Godfather now?

On April 13 2011 17:55 chaoser wrote:


I remember in XXXVII you were perfectly ok with doing this with LSB's fake bait n' switch plan

On April 13 2011 18:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Protact would choose his #1 black target to make a scum analysis on. I have a hard time believing he thought Chaoser was assassin over kitaman27.

If he's black and wrong, we don't lynch him. We certainly don't protect him. He simply dies night 2 and we take the loss in stride and move on.



Uh please confirm that this is a joke

On April 14 2011 10:17 Protactinium wrote:


Trying to derail the lynch. How cute. You’re going to have to make a bigger splash if you want to be successful though. The list is laughable: earlier you didn’t give an opinion on Coagulation other than maybe lynching him. But now that he's in the spotlight you turn around and ignore the whole Coagulation thing, offering over and over again to lynch an inctive instead. Inactive over scummy? Please…

For everyone trying to discredit the Coagulation as scummy: Coagulation is not “unreadable”. Its fairly easy to differentiate when he is town and when he is mafia. As I stated in my analysis, one thing that has been strikingly absent from this game is Coagulation actively and fearlessly pointing out scum. Check out any prior game where Coagulation is town. He has no problems pointing out who he thinks is scum. On the other hand, in this game, he hasn’t accused any mafia with conviction. Yes, it is true that even as town, Coagulation doesn’t post any analysis. But that doesn’t stop him just saying “X is mafia”. Notice how that is not present in this game either. It doesn’t matter that he defended Kavdragon. Mafia know that information anyways, so it isn’t a big shocker.

Coagulation isn’t acting like he normally does when he’s town. He viciously attacked my candidacy, which is a pro-mafia move. The timings of his posts are suspicious. Every one of his actions fit with mafia objectives. His defense of himself after my accusation is just terrible. His vet claim is laughable too. He said he could prove being vet. But that isn’t possible unless a vig shoots him. And how does he know there are any vets left? Obviously, he doesn’t. He’s just stalling for time. Notice how when everyone ignored his vet claim, he got even more desperate and asked for a DT check. Guess what, I already checked him! He’s obviously in a panic. Everyone trying to save him by suggesting that they wait until I flip first is just trying to stall for time. If you take a step back and think about it for a moment, Coagulation is clearly mafia.

Everyone stop bickering and focus on the real issue at hand, which is the Coagulation lynch. Everything else can wait until tomorrow.

I have been completely transparent

Think about GMarshal's overall profile. What is he trying to do? From day 1, notice how he does not express support for any candidate other than himself.

On April 10 2011 12:06 GMarshal wrote:


My campaign has prettier pictures than yours! Also if you are elected and I'm stuck as a bg again I'll have an aneurysm!

That said, gentlemen don't vote for themselves and I'd be happy to have you as a pardoner with me

##Vote Kavdragon

Look at the suspicious votes GMarshal gets. There are countless lurkers and inactives who vote GMarshal without explaining why. And as you recall, GMarshal was the first one out the gate, and managed to obtain a sizable lead early on in the race, while everyone else was stuck at less than 4 votes.

On April 14 2011 13:16 chaoser wrote:





I still find this scummy as fuck btw. I'll sleep on this, will vote tomorrow

On April 15 2011 09:59 CubEdIn wrote:
Sorry, I'll go with my gut and vote coag.

Coag, this is not about you, it's about no mafia/assasin would claim a DT just to survive a night imo.

On April 15 2011 10:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote:


Smurfs are supposed to have checked in with the host before the game has begun, so if it's true, then BB probably knows about it. Also, aren't strategic modkills not allowed?

On April 15 2011 11:44 flamewheel wrote:

I'll explain after the game o.0
It's actually quite simple.

On April 15 2011 11:51 M0nsterChef wrote:
#Vote Coagulation

Although I really think LSB might be sum with his rather anti town plan.

On April 15 2011 11:58 DropBear wrote:
Marshal you are on my scum team as well. Your sheep have jumped onto Coag as soon as the accusation came out.
Noone seems to be listening to me at all. I am happy to change my Kenpachi vote to you if I can't convince anyone otherwise.

On April 15 2011 12:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
that is not a scum slip

"scum team" as in people he suspects of being scum. he's pretty obviously saying something to the effect of "you're on my list". don't be so desperate.

gmarshal is getting lynched and not you anyway so why do you care

On April 15 2011 15:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

I'll repost a better version of mine for you during the day. No need for big scum cases tonight.

VIG COAGULATION

On April 15 2011 15:35 Kenpachi wrote:

who?

On April 15 2011 15:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

this sounds more like the scum coagulation i know

On April 15 2011 16:14 sleepy1 wrote:
I thought you were a doctor?

On April 15 2011 16:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
vig hit coagulation

redFF was just temp banned for 30 days by Nyovne.

That account was created on 2010-11-08 09:10:09 and had 632 posts.

Reason: "You won't be missed idiot." as your latest contribution to this site amongst a host of personal attacks, aggressive posting, contentless posts, image macro's, bad grammar and spelling let alone punctuation and proper capitalisation and that's where we enter the domain of 90%+ of your posts being nothing but youtubes or non capitalised and punctuated one liners or single world posts.

Please take this as a very last chance to participate in this community. When this ban runs out we expect you to substantially shape up your posting quality.

On April 16 2011 04:09 urashimakt wrote:

Well it's against the rules to go against your own win condition, so anything you offer is probably B.S. The last several pages have been pretty lamentable, but I'm pretty confident the mafia team hasn't lost yet despite the actions of a couple of its less discerning members. Please don't give up, no matter what team you're on. Play it through!

R.I.P. redFF

Coagulation, I don't understand anything you did or said in all this. Before I joined the Mafia forum I knew you as the guy who made hilarious blogs, photoshops and the hostage thread which is my favourite TL thread. I PM’d you THREE TIMES IN A ROW trying to get you to calm down and you still managed to get yourself modkilled. WE COULD HAVE SALVAGED THE SITUATION IF YOU HADN’T DONE THAT! If BrownBear hadn’t let us keep the 4th KP after your modkill for night 2 we would have been even more fucked. The fact that you handed over that bluelist as well.....

On April 24 2011 13:48 DropBear wrote:
Coag I never said you handed over a red list. By the blue list I mean this:


Whether you were just fucking around or not, every single one of these people bar Protactinium was under consideration.

On April 24 2011 14:08 DropBear wrote:

Because they were legit. We actually tried to kill these people. Kita and bum already suspected each other to be blues going on their coordination in the first couple of days. It helped clear them and made things harder for everyone left.

That's enough from me for now, I want to watch the WeMade game. I'll be involved in the ban list discussion in the next few days. I also want to allow Qatol, BB and Meapak to say their bit.

On April 24 2011 14:09 jaminz wrote:


I think he's mad because it would mean our blues would have a good idea of who to protect/watch/track. However, mafia could anticipate that and hit other targets or something