TL Mafia XXXVIII - Page 6

On April 15 2011 09:08 Protactinium wrote:
Please read my post. You're just ignoring logic and are building cases off of false assumptions.

On April 15 2011 09:16 Protactinium wrote:

You didn't read my post! If you don't want to read any of the rest, at least read that one. You'll agree that it makes sense.

On April 15 2011 09:35 Protactinium wrote:Hold on. Watch GMarshal grudgingly vote Coagulation all the while complaining about the lynch. Take note of this. This is our Day 3 lynch target.

On April 15 2011 09:42 Protactinium wrote:
Seriously, its getting really obnoxious. Stop trying to keep discredit me. Its not working, get it? Even Mr. scum pardoner was forced to agree with me and vote his scumbuddy.

On April 15 2011 09:45 Protactinium wrote:
You guys seem to not be making the distinction for when I am talking in the hypothetical and when I am not. Please read it over carefully if you still don't get it.

On April 15 2011 09:47 Protactinium wrote:


Again, people keep missing the point. Why be boring and run for mayor normally when you can draw out all the mafia? Look. Everyone is making the false assumption that I was trying to win the mayor election at all costs. That is not true. I am trying to win this game. And even if that means taking the risk of losing the mayor election, look how far its gotten me? This game will be decided once Coagulation flips red.

On April 15 2011 10:02 Protactinium wrote:

Like I told Rean earlier, I'll post that after the lynch. After this lynch ends, there is a whole 24 hours before night ends. Relax. It will come. No reason to post it all now when priority number 1 is making sure that mafia don't save Coag.

On April 15 2011 10:27 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Don't waste your votes on Protactinium, THEY are probably about to get modkilled.

On April 15 2011 10:38 Lemonwalrus wrote:
If that is cheating, please modkill them, if you believe I have cheated in revealing this, modkill me.

On April 15 2011 10:55 GMarshal wrote:
I'm not letting the assassin win. Hang me if you must.

I ran on policy and principles. I will uphold those now.

FIGHT FOR THE TOWN!

On April 15 2011 11:16 GMarshal wrote:
Because apparently I need to spell it out. These are principles that transcend this game. There are certain ways the town has to play to play well. There are reasons for LaL, and all my other policies, this isn't about the pardon being anti-town or not. This is about teaching you fools how town should play. If I have to die to prove the point that you are being stupid and playing badly then so be it.

At least I will have played like an absolute dumbass

Sometimes its about more than just winning.

On April 15 2011 11:21 GMarshal wrote:No, the thought didn't even cross my mind. I am not stupid, there are reasons behind what I am doing

On April 16 2011 03:02 GGQ wrote:
An update on GGQ's thoughts:

Be very careful about listening to flamewheel/protact anymore, on the off chance that he survives the night. The only reason his coagulation analysis was given any weight is because he was trying to convince us that he's a dt so he had to finger a red. He now knows that we all know he's an assassin, so if he's playing to his win condition then we can't trust any further analysis by him.

I think I now know why he was keeping his list of other suspects a secret until after the lynch: he wants to use them as a bargaining chip to gain protection. He's now going to say that he is pretty sure of all the mafia and he will tell us who they are if he survives until the morning. Wait for it.

I want to question the use of medics/watchers on the bodyguards. I don't want to offend anyone here, but The_Roist and MetalFace are hardly valuable players in and of themselves. And they are protecting DrH, whom I am still not 100% sure is town, and who has (imo) been making pretty bad calls for most of the game (and he's claimed vet, so he'd take two hits for mafia to kill anyway). I would rather see the survival of a few strong town players that have been doing well this game, like chaoser and bumatlarge (though his attempt to take all the credit for lynching GMarshal is insulting at best and suspicious at worst...) and, dare I say it, me. I think the best thing is to have our medics consider protecting the bodyguards (if mafia want to double stack to kill MetalFace or The_Roist, that's ok with me...) and watchers must be on the other players I named, or on other players that they have good town reads on (maybe Barundar or kitaman?). I see the mafia going for other town players, not the mayor tonight, imo.

On April 16 2011 03:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
The death of the bodyguards is not a good thing. I think the best bet is for the watchers to stick on BG's to deter mafia from hitting them while medics protect bigger town targets. Particularly bumatlarge.

You didn't really do much yesterday that I was aware of. You come out today just to criticize me and post thoughts on what blues to do, that hardly warrants medics imo.

Yeah I made some bad calls but the flamewheel vs GGQ thing was complex and my plan involving forcing GGQ to use his check would have outed him/coagulation over the course of the night. I still think my analysis on LSB is good and lynching him would have flipped scum. I'm looking over my LSB analysis again and he could very well be assassin. His goal is more focused on hitting Protactinium than it is on saving Coagulation, but he does seem to be in agreeance with GMarshal. When he comes out to attack the pardon he does so very lightly but otherwise ignores GMarshal completely. That sets off a red alarm to me.

I admit the kavdragon lynch was a shitty call. Although I don't really think I deserve a lot of criticism for the fact that I didn't hit red it was the fact that I ignored a better case because of my tunneling and that was poor decision making on my part.

Regardless, GMarshal the scum pardoner is now dead, I undoubtedly had a role in that. And now hopefully a vig will hit coagulation and an assassin will hit LSB. One of the LSB/ilovejonn camp is certainly an assassin so I really suggest other assassins out there place a hit in that direction.

This is the post that made me lean a bit toward black rather than red on LSB:


The goal here is to confirm himself (appeals to GMarshal by saying it'll confirm him too) and get rid of Flamewheel. Entirely possible this is part of a plan to fake a vig on Coagulation to save him, but looking at Coag's recent posts it seems he's pretty much being abandoned.

Assassin's you have 3 KP. I'm 50/50 scum/assassin read on this guy. You have a pretty good shot with this and if he flips red and not black, I'm certainly not complaining.

Watchers/medics whether you care about the bodyguards or not is up to you but I hope we can all agree on those two points:
-An assassin should hit LSB
-Coagulation should be vig'd